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Amiga One or Pegasos?
« on: March 06, 2003, 01:37:38 PM »
Hi everyone

Just like to pose a question I need help with. Which is better in the longterm, Amiga One or a Pegasos board? I am looking to migrate (once again!) from the PC having come from an Amiga background (A4000, etc).

I am currently in the market to buy new hardware, and I need advice from the experts!

Thanks
Fahiem Wagiet
 

Offline Karlos

Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2003, 01:40:10 PM »
Oh man, you sure asked the wrong question at a bad time...Let the flames/counterflames commence :-)
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Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2003, 01:44:27 PM »
Oops! Didn't mean to start a flame war!

 

Offline LaBodilsen

Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2003, 01:47:39 PM »
No worry, lets hope people can keep it civilized.

But on to the topic:
 I currently going to buy the AmigaOne,  not because it's better og worse than the competition, but just because thats what i think is the "right" new amiga.

If the A1 never materialize, i'll take a good look at the Pegasus though.  and maybe buy one if it gains support.
 

Offline Ami603

Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2003, 01:48:35 PM »
Just AmigaOne XE G4 & AmigaOS4 when Available...
:flame::nervous::destroy:
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  • Guest
Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2003, 01:49:06 PM »
I won't call myself an expert but i'll tell you my point of view as a user that wants an Amiga again. :)

I made the choice to go for the AmigaOne, I believe it has more chances to go public and I prefer to trust the Amiga team than anyone else. (Maybe i'm wrong, who knows?!)  

OS4 seems to be almost the same cool OS that we loved to use with a touch of "modernity" and will probably have more sales potential than MorphOS.  I can't trust the Pegasos/MorphOS machine yet, it seems too vague to me.  Have they showed their system in the US or Canada yet?   Ok, Amiga haven't showed anything either ;)

Its nothing technical, I have no speed or performance arguments to give because we all know it is pointless to argue about that (remember the old PC vs Amiga war? hehehe)    
 

Offline Elwood

Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2003, 01:49:45 PM »
There's only one solution: wait ! Now it depends how much time you want to wait.
Wait for OS4 to be out, wait for the time when we'll know what is the best solution: OS4 or MOS...
Philippe "Elwood" Ferrucci
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Offline DaveP

Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2003, 01:51:33 PM »
Well it depends on the flip of a dice as far as I can see it.

#1 Pegasos. Sold out. You can't buy them at the moment, a replacement
Pegasos II is "promised" for September. Choose this route if you are willing
to wait till then and don't mind that it is MorphOS and not AmigaOS4. Obviously
you can run OS3.x apps but don't expect to be able to AmigaOS4 apps. Its a G3
only and doesn't have AGP and is sans a PCI slot. Plus side its microATX form
factor good for the dexterous. Has a CPU "slot" but currently no other
modules available for it ( modules are custom proprietary design ). MOS doesn't have a
PPC native TCP stack and is sort of between beta and production at the moment.

#2 AmigaONE.  Well the SE is cheap and for sale. The XEs are for sale but
the shipping is slow. Choose this if you believe that AmigaOS4 is going to
be out for it before September and you want AmigaOS4. Obviously you can
run OS3.x apps but don't expect to be able to run MOS apps. Has AGP and
an extra PCI slot ( which you can't use when an AGP card is plugged in ).  Its
ATX.  Has a CPU slot ( called Megarray apparently ) which is based on an Apple
design and there ARE different CPUs available for it. Don't know what the likely
hood of other CPU modules being built by third parties are.

Good luck, and try to make up your OWN mind.
Hate figure. :lol:
 

Offline Rudei

Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2003, 01:59:47 PM »
A1 without a doubt
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Offline itix

Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2003, 02:01:01 PM »
Hey, does OS4 have PPC TCP/IP stack now? ;)
If it does it is probably in beta stage :)

Anyway, Pegasos I is sold out and I recall they are not making those anymore. They have some units left for special cases tho. So if you want Pegasos you have to wait for Pegasos II now.

OTOH A1 is available but without OS4. So if you want OS4 you have to wait. Quite interesting situation.
My Amigas: A500, Mac Mini and PowerBook
 

Offline olegil

Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2003, 02:09:35 PM »
@DaveP:
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Has AGP and an extra PCI slot ( which you can't use when an AGP card is plugged in )


Which I am currently using at the same time as AGP. What's your point? I think the last comment from MAI was something like "either both are 33MHz, or both are 66MHz". I'm not entirely sure, though. I just know that I get sound from the output on the card that is plugged into the shared slot, and I get video from the AGP card. :-)


Oh, and to the person who started the thread: I made up my decision around this time last year, and received my A1 in mid May same year. I haven't regretted that decision (especially since it's the fastest OGR-cracking machine I have, even beats the 2.2GHz P4 at the office using the latest client...)
 

Offline cdfr

Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2003, 02:10:00 PM »
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#1 Pegasos. Sold out. You can't buy them at the moment


You are correct that you can't buy them at the moment but not because it is sold out, just because they are not delivered to the dealers yet.
Sold out to the dealers, not to the end users. :-D

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and doesn't have AGP and is sans a PCI slot

What are you smoking ? Both Pegasos1 and Pegasos2 have AGP/PCI.

 

  • Guest
Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2003, 02:13:53 PM »
Thanks everyone, A1 it is!

 

Offline ksk

Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2003, 02:21:20 PM »
"Which is better in the longterm, Amiga One or a Pegasos board? "

IMO: Both are doomed to fail as mass product, but existance is anyway "good enough" for me. ;-)

Peg1 is a dead end (except that you'll be able to swap it to peg2 for 200€), and it is not anymore available (and for example HW drivers for peg2 will have priority over peg1 HW drivers).
A1XE is planned to have longer life than peg1, but peg2 has the potential to be faster, but only time will tell...

I would say AOS4 could have better future because it's not tied to any particular HW manufacturer ... but AOS4 does not yet exist and that is a very bad thing, as MOS is gaining momentum all the time while AOS4 stands still in the inexistance.

I think that when peg2 becomes available for Joe the Average, it would be very stupid to keep on waiting for AOS4 if AOS4 has not been released at that time.


I HOPE that after AOS4 is ready, it will be ported to several third party PPC platforms (Elbox, Matay+Sonnet, PowerMac, pegasos2), then it would have the best possibilities + the name.

The ultimate answer: A1XE is the best option today/next week, because you will be able to BUY it.
 

Offline amigamad

Re: Amiga One or Pegasos?
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2003, 02:37:46 PM »
Ive orderderd an amigaone . Pegasos looks good but it has a smaller chance of making it.
I once had an amigaone xe but sold it .

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