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Offline Shadowfax

Ok, so I burn the i386 ISO and boot it up on my PC
« on: March 14, 2005, 04:20:21 AM »
Looks great! However, the mouse does not respond so I can't do anything. I tried a serial mouse in both Com-1 and Com-2 ports. Nothing, I tried a mouse in the small round mouse port, still nothing... What am I missing?

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Re: Ok, so I burn the i386 ISO and boot it up on my PC
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2005, 08:02:54 AM »
I assume you're talking about AROS. You need to boot the computer with the mouse in the PS/2-port. Otherwise, the computer will not detect it.
I've never managed to get serial mice to work with AROS.
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Re: Ok, so I burn the i386 ISO and boot it up on my PC
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2005, 08:27:24 AM »
If your running native AROS your gonna need a PS2 mouse im afraid as we dont have USB support yet (serial support is probably not on our todo list even) or if your lucky and have a fancy bios where you can turn on USB emulation :).

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Re: Ok, so I burn the i386 ISO and boot it up on my PC
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2005, 12:25:47 PM »
Yeep, I tried a PS/2 mouse (that little round port next to the keyboard port on the ATX's rear panel) but with no response. I'll poke around in the BIOS and see what I can see.
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Re: Ok, so I burn the i386 ISO and boot it up on my PC
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2005, 12:46:26 PM »
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Yeep, I tried a PS/2 mouse (that little round port next to the keyboard port on the ATX's rear panel) but with no response. I'll poke around in the BIOS and see what I can see.


That's really odd, I've not found a PS/2 mouse that hasn't worked yet...

I expect the BIOS has the "Legacy support" switched off or something.

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« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2005, 01:36:15 PM »
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Yeep, I tried a PS/2 mouse (that little round port next to the keyboard port on the ATX's rear panel) but with no response. I'll poke around in the BIOS and see what I can see.


That's really odd, I've not found a PS/2 mouse that hasn't worked yet...

I expect the BIOS has the "Legacy support" switched off or something.


Does AROS use ACPI for any of that?
 

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Re: Ok, so I burn the i386 ISO and boot it up on my PC
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2005, 01:38:54 PM »
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Shadowfax wrote:
Yeep, I tried a PS/2 mouse (that little round port next to the keyboard port on the ATX's rear panel) but with no response. I'll poke around in the BIOS and see what I can see.


That's really odd, I've not found a PS/2 mouse that hasn't worked yet...

I expect the BIOS has the "Legacy support" switched off or something.


Does AROS use ACPI for any of that?


Nope, but it would be nice it it did...

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Re: Ok, so I burn the i386 ISO and boot it up on my PC
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2005, 08:31:35 PM »
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Does AROS use ACPI for any of that?


Nope, but it would be nice it it did...


Hum, ah well, currently fiddling with DragonFly on a board with a specifically bugged ... whew, whatever it is, the code you compile to tell it how to present one of the tables involved.

I had similar mouse and keyboard issues with QNX6 on certain 486en back when I was trying to get into it, where you'd expect it all to work, and for some reason it doesn't.

[Hm, there's an idea, you guys fit on a floppy... How much hardware detection actually goes on right now?  Would it be possible to cut an image that loads, say, a memory resident version from a FAT floppy, and blows some rough equivalent of a dmesg/detected device tree back into a text file on the FAT-formatted disk?  Might be convenient for newbies and weird troubles?]
 

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Re: Ok, so I burn the i386 ISO and boot it up on my PC
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2005, 09:42:56 AM »
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Does AROS use ACPI for any of that?


Nope, but it would be nice it it did...


Hum, ah well, currently fiddling with DragonFly on a board with a specifically bugged ... whew, whatever it is, the code you compile to tell it how to present one of the tables involved.

I had similar mouse and keyboard issues with QNX6 on certain 486en back when I was trying to get into it, where you'd expect it all to work, and for some reason it doesn't.

[Hm, there's an idea, you guys fit on a floppy... How much hardware detection actually goes on right now?  Would it be possible to cut an image that loads, say, a memory resident version from a FAT floppy, and blows some rough equivalent of a dmesg/detected device tree back into a text file on the FAT-formatted disk?  Might be convenient for newbies and weird troubles?]


Not a great deal of Hardware detection goes on, AFAIK, just what ever the BIOS knows and then a scan of the PCI bus (looking for any supported devices).

We had one developer looking ACPI, but he is busy with Wanderer at the moment.

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Re: Ok, so I burn the i386 ISO and boot it up on my PC
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2005, 01:33:08 PM »
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Not a great deal of Hardware detection goes on, AFAIK, just what ever the BIOS knows and then a scan of the PCI bus (looking for any supported devices).


Ah, okay.  The above was just presented as a general theory for solving the "it'd be nice to know what exact hardware is present to be failing and not everyone can be bothered to crack the case" issue OS developers seem to get into.  (Of course, depending how the software is written, you still have to trust that it guesses right, but that's obvious.)
 

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Re: Ok, so I burn the i386 ISO and boot it up on my PC
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2005, 01:46:32 PM »
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Not a great deal of Hardware detection goes on, AFAIK, just what ever the BIOS knows and then a scan of the PCI bus (looking for any supported devices).


Ah, okay.  The above was just presented as a general theory for solving the "it'd be nice to know what exact hardware is present to be failing and not everyone can be bothered to crack the case" issue OS developers seem to get into.  (Of course, depending how the software is written, you still have to trust that it guesses right, but that's obvious.)


yeah, that would be nice... the nearest we have is that we can provide the user with a disk that has debug enabled which (just like AmigaOS's Romwack) will dump out full debug info through the serial port which can be captured by another computer.