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Amiga OS -- Application questions and support / Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Last post by Gulliver on September 23, 2018, 07:18:44 PM »
Always nice to see additional development, even if it means more fragmentation.  I'll probably pick and chose from 3.1.4 components (once released) to add to my existing 3.9 systems.  Of course I don't expect anyone to support these hacked together kludges beyond myself.  ;)

Not really fragmentation. Let me explain:

All 3.1.4 components are way beyond in fixes and features than what 3.9 brought to the table. What 3.1.4 lacks is all those third party applications that 3.9 brought along, like video player, web browser, dock bar, tcp-ip stack, etc.

The core of the Operating System is way better in all aspects than what 3.9 ever was/is.

The best part of this, is that taking some precautions, you can integrate 3.1.4 in a working 3.9 system, and get the best things of both worlds: the best OS core (3.1.4), and the more handy applications some of which came with 3.9.

I have already performed the 3.9 + 3.1.4 integration several times: It requires some work, but it is not voodoo magic by any means.
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Amiga Editorials / Re: 10 Minute Amiga Retro Cast
« Last post by Dynamic_Computing on September 23, 2018, 07:18:38 PM »
10 Minute Amiga Retro Cast version 6 is up now. In this episode, I am covering the Digital creations DCTV Slow Scan digitizer. That thing is great! It is a bit long (24 minutes), but I had a lot to cover. I think I would occasionally prefer to do one double sized video instead of two  smaller videos like I did with the Rapid Road review. Any preferences?

I will have the MPEG1 video uploaded to Aminet soon, but I may pass this week on the HAM6 and HAM8 videos - with a video this size, they would be larger than a Gig...

Anyway, enjoy the video and share it with your friends!

https://youtu.be/mfSvmWmUQKI
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Amiga OS -- Application questions and support / Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Last post by Oldsmobile_Mike on September 23, 2018, 06:44:25 PM »
Always nice to see additional development, even if it means more fragmentation.  I'll probably pick and chose from 3.1.4 components (once released) to add to my existing 3.9 systems.  Of course I don't expect anyone to support these hacked together kludges beyond myself.  ;)
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General chat about Amiga topics / Re: WS500XXX Scala Rackmount System
« Last post by Oldsmobile_Mike on September 23, 2018, 06:42:52 PM »
Whoa.  Kind of makes it hard to access the optical drive from inside there, though. ;)
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Hello.

ORIENTATION:

The A501 is usually fiitted inside a screened can so you wouldn't be able to see the components at all.  But if you were to remove the can then you would find that it fits with the component-side facing up.  This means you would only see the bottom side of the board from the trapdoor.
I've never come across a Marpet MP500A but I would imagine it's the same deal.  The A501 has its connector offset from centre to dissuade you from fitting it the wrong way around.  Is there not something similar with the Marpet MP500A?

A300 PSU
I think a PSU from an A600 machine, provided it is in good working order, should be able to power your A500.

BATTERY
The AMIGA is fine with no battery, it just means you will have to set the clock manually each time you power on.  If all you're doing is gaming then of course the clock won't really matter at all.

VINEGAR

Be a bit careful with leaked NiCAD batteries.  Some explanation:
NiCAD batteries use potassium hydroxide as an electrolyte.  When this leaks from the battery it reacts with the carbon dioxide in the air and forms potassium carbonate.  I believe this is the white powder-like material you see hugging around the battery itself.  I would be interested to learn more about this from someone more knowledgable than me.
But, importantly, there are probably also cadmium salts in the mix here and these are quite toxic.  So take some care.

You may also see some green material on the leads of components and ICs.  I'm not certain but I think this is Green nickel hydroxide.

I'm not sure about neutralising with vinegar.  I've heard this as well but I'd like to further understand the science before I apply vinegar to any of my own AMIGAs.  Are there any chemists on these forums?
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Amiga OS -- Application questions and support / Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Last post by BozzerBigD on September 23, 2018, 05:51:43 PM »
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while still keeping it as original as possible

This is the thing I don't understand... OS3.5 and OS3.9 WERE official OS versions. They provide an 'original' Amiga experience. OS3.9 is worth it IMHO just because it has the .LHA Unarchiver program on the Dock out of the box. Commodore were both the Amiga's saviour and its destroyer. We don't owe them anything and in particular we shouldn't feel we are losing out on the retro C= experience by not sticking to the 'grey and blue' C= version of the OS!
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Amiga OS -- Application questions and support / Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Last post by boemann on September 23, 2018, 05:44:15 PM »
'I for one have been waiting eagerly for this update ever since it was announced - granted I use 3.1 today so for those of you using non retro versions it may not be such a big thing, but for me it serves as a way to fix bugs while still keeping it as original as possible
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Amiga OS -- Application questions and support / Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Last post by BozzerBigD on September 23, 2018, 05:29:39 PM »
@number6
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I believe these are questions that Thomas would prefer to be discussed outside of the context of this thread.

Why should we get excited about this if this branch will be equally likely to dry up should Hyperion's money problems end in bankruptcy? OS3.9 is fine for users IMHO and there are a small number of Classic developers still operating that a bug fix may interest so what exactly are we attempting to achieve? AmiKIT is a Workbench replacement, many still use Directory Opus and now Amiga OS 3.1.4 is here!?! Rather than ask us to ask Thomas technical questions Thomas should tell US why this is of interest and what would be the benefit of buying it over and above OS3.9? I'm not trolling, this is a serious question.

From beta thread:
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Lots of bug fixes and:
- Fast File System with native 64-bit support for NSD, TD64 and direct SCSI, long filenames and resizable media support
- CrossDOS with native 64-bit support for NSD, TD64 and direct SCSI support, long filenames and resizable media support, new mfm.device
- Format, DiskCopy and HDToolbox with 64-bit support based on NSD, TD64 and direct SCSI support, plus bug fixes
- C:Mount for large media, direct SCSI support and resizable removable media
- Working soft links for the RAM disk and Fast File System
- Shell tools with long filename support, softlinks and large media support
- Math libraries that reconfigure themselves when an FPU becomes available after loading.
- New DIR command with nicely formatted output
- New Workbench that also copies links
- CPU command with 68060 support
- exec.library that no longer dies on 68060
- SetPatch, without NSDPatch and RomUpdates (not needed anymore)
- Intuition with off-screen window dragging
- aux-handler now completely rewritten in C. No more BCPL code in AmigaOS!
- More bugfixed portions: audio.device, asl.library, Compugraphic fonts, diskfont and fixfonts, icon.library, iffparse.library, Installer, iPrefs, Locale, parallel and serial devices, RAMlib and RAMdrive, rexxsyslib, scsi.device, speak-handler, More, and others
- Added V45 layers.library, V45 execute command, V46 Shell

Great! Lots of work and extra 060 support is a great addition IMHO but does this all actually add up to a better and more complete product compared to OS3.9 or do you just view this a cleaner and future proof (from a technical viewpoint rather than legal obviously) version?
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Thanks for the links.

I like the one with the bracket, I could convert it to a faceplate.

I know that SD cards can be a but finicky from having a Raspberry Pi.
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Amiga OS -- Application questions and support / Re: The Os 3.1.4 Thread
« Last post by Thomas Richter on September 23, 2018, 04:30:46 PM »
Pulling windows out of screens is a feature of intuition v45 which will be available for all customers of 3.1.4 as an optional component for installation. Unfortunately, it is only optional because it does not work with cybergraphics.

Unfortunately, CGfx depends on compiler-specific register- and memory allocation of the compiled intuitition v40 code beyond our knowledge, and intuition v40 is the only component which was built with the Greenhill compiler. Unfortunately, the compiler is no longer available, and even if it would, we would not know how to integrate it into the built-system, so we cannot reproduce what Cgfx requires.

We reached out to Frank Mariak asking for insight, and offered an internal interface in intuition v45 for CGfx to reproduce (with some assembly stubs potentially) its requirements. Even some first contact was established successfully, this went unfortunately nowhere.

So, at this time, intuition v45 is for native graphics and P96 only, and only as an optional feature. I would have preferred to offer this as a regular part of 3.1.4, but we cannot risk to loose Cgfx customers.

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