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Title: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: AmigoSteve on October 04, 2011, 04:17:28 PM
Hi everyone, this morning I went onto the amigakit website and have bought myself a SAM460 basic system!

I am a huge gaming fan and would like to know which games you recommend (please don't say os4 depot or something like that)

I am aware of BOH, word me up xxl, Alinearis 2, super workbench games, crossfire 2

Also which old amiga games do you know that work with the SAM eg heretic 2, wipeout 2097...
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: jorkany on October 04, 2011, 04:33:26 PM
Quote from: AmigoSteve;662431
Also which old amiga games do you know that work with the SAM eg heretic 2, wipeout 2097...

Those aren't Amiga games, but ports.

You can run true Amiga games on your SAM under an emulator, just like you would on a PC.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: fishy_fiz on October 04, 2011, 04:43:26 PM
Off the top of my head:

Quake1/2/3, Shogo, Payback, Trapped2, NemacIV, Earth2140, Napalm, Nightlong, ScummVM and all the games that covers, Duke3d, Genetic Species, AlienBreed3d2:TKG (with RTG patch), Gloom3, VirtualGP, Final Whistle, Descent FreeSpace, Exodus:The Last War, OnEscapee, Flashback (via Reminiscine), Another World (via RAW).

There's plenty of others, but for the most part I only mentioned commercial titles, or engines that can play commercial titles. (although of course some of these commercial titles are open source too). Personally I find the vast majority of original open source games to be rubbish, but there is a small percentage of gems amongst the junk. Oh, additionally Ive listed some 68k games that Id imagine should work, but may not. As for Gloom, earlier versions may work, so it may be worth looking into, but I know for sure Gloom3:Zombie Massacre is definately RTG friendly.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: Varthall on October 04, 2011, 06:21:59 PM
My personal favourite OS4 games are Aquaria, Quake 3, Wesnoth, Beats of Rage, OpenTyrian, Joleem, Super Mario War, and Tail Tale.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: lionstorm on October 04, 2011, 07:30:59 PM
there is 1941 deluxe extreme which supports 2 players and Reminescence, an engine which let you go through flashback !
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: AmigoSteve on October 04, 2011, 08:12:25 PM
Thanks, I will check some of them out and whet my appetite for them over the next few weeks whilst I wait for my SAM!
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: eliyahu on October 04, 2011, 10:19:51 PM
Quote from: AmigoSteve;662431
Hi everyone, this morning I went onto the amigakit website and have bought myself a SAM460 basic system!

I am a huge gaming fan and would like to know which games you recommend (please don't say os4 depot or something like that)

I am aware of BOH, word me up xxl, Alinearis 2, super workbench games, crossfire 2

Also which old amiga games do you know that work with the SAM eg heretic 2, wipeout 2097...

there are tons of games out there that will run happily on your SAM460. i have a few on my SAM440 that i play on occasion and enjoy. among them are:

alephone (engine for marathon series of FPS games)
amichess
aquaria
armagetron advanced
asteriodsTR
blackbox
BOH
bubbelsche deluxe
cube
descent
doom 2 (via prboomGL engine)
enigma (clone of the oxyd series of games)
freespace
frotz
giana's return
giddy
heretic
hexen 2
lincity NG
neverball/neverputt
project SMC
quake
quake 2
simutrans
soliton
sqrxz
sqrxz 2
supertux
the lord of the rings
battle of wesnoth
zaz
zelda OLB

i also use classic games via @ChrisH's excellent RunInUAE, such as turrican (1, 2, and 3), lotus turbo challenge, rick dangerous, etc.

a few of the games listed above are commercial, but i would say some of the best are BOH, freespace, quake 2, battle of wesnoth, and especially aquaria. much of the 'native' OS4 games tend to be ports from other platforms thanks to the availability of SDL -- as pointed out by @jorkany. but then again they play just as well on our amiga NG machines as our PCs, so why not?

let us know when you get your SAM, and if you need any help, just ask! :)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: giZmo350 on October 04, 2011, 10:57:53 PM
Well, the deal is done! I pulled the trigger on a new SAM460EX COMPLETE SYSTEM too!
And, I GOT THE LAST ONE! With all the upgrades and goodies!

I also got the FastATA 1200 MK-IV IDE Interface for my A1200 and the Competition Pro Joystick for the Sam.

CAN"T WAIT!!!! :)
 
I'm glad for this post too - time to go get some software and games for the SAM!
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: eliyahu on October 04, 2011, 11:09:38 PM
Quote from: gizmo350;662474
Well, the deal is done! I pulled the trigger on a new SAM460EX COMPLETE SYSTEM too!
And, I GOT THE LAST ONE! With all the upgrades and goodies!

I also got the FastATA 1200 MK-IV IDE Interface for my A1200 and the Competition Pro Joystick for the Sam.

CAN"T WAIT!!!! :)
 
I'm glad for this post too - time to go get some software and games for the SAM!
congrats on your purchase! :cool:

i hope you enjoy it as much as i have my own little SAM440.  be sure to let us know your thoughts, both good and bad, when you get it and start playing around. :)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: giZmo350 on October 04, 2011, 11:24:17 PM
Thanks! :)
 
I ordered these two cases and after I play around on it for awhile I'm going to see how the innerds transplant into one of these...
 
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3905305&CatId=3427 (http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3905305&CatId=3427)
 
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3905288&CatId=3427 (http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3905288&CatId=3427)
 
I've been saving a couple of brand new WHITE optical drive faceplates for just such an occasion too!
 
Emulation for OS4 looks like a winner too! Maybe I can retire a couple of old Miggys! Also, didn't I see someone load Windows under emulation on an OS4 machine? I'd love to be able to play all my old DOS/WIN VGA games on it too! (no flame please!) :roflmao:
 
@eliyahu.... how hard was it to setup emulation on yours? Is it very finicky?
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: eliyahu on October 04, 2011, 11:39:07 PM
Quote from: gizmo350;662478
Emulation for OS4 looks like a winner too! Maybe I can retire a couple of old Miggys! Also, didn't I see someone load Windows under emulation on an OS4 machine? I'd love to be able to play all my old DOS/WIN VGA games on it too! (no flame please!) :roflmao:
it depends on how old your game titles are. folks have used DOSbox (http://www.os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=emulation/computer/dosbox.lha) successfully to install older versions of windows, like windows 95 or windows 98, but on our SAMs it is mostly useful for older DOS games from the 1980s and 1990s. i use it on my SAM440, and it works well for all of the old text and platform games from 'the old days.' you might ask on AWN (http://amigaworld.net) or amigans.net (http://www.amigans.net) for feedback since there are (far) more OS4 users on those boards.
 
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@eliyahu.... how hard was it to setup emulation on yours? Is it very finicky?
not at all. in fact all i needed was my amiga forever CD for the ROMs (although you don't need that since they are available elsewhere) and the installer for RunInUAE (http://www.os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=emulation/utility/runinuae.lha), which sets up everything for you. afterwards i simply double-click on an ADF file or any WHDload game, and away it goes.  of course if you want to run UAE manually, you can, and there are nice GUIs available for all of the configuration options, but i find RunInUAE is easier to work with.

of course if you're talking about stuff other than games, you don't need UAE at all since most classic software that you used to use in conjunction with workbench works 'out of the box' without setting anything up at all -- and tends to be much, much faster than anything using UAE since the version of UAE for the NG systems (like OS4 and MOS) doesn't have a JIT compiler in the runtime.

if you run into any issues, just open a thread on the fora. we SAM owners tend to be a nice bunch of folks and always want to help out a new user. :)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: ChrisH on October 05, 2011, 12:08:32 AM
Why are people recommending 3D games like Quake 3 or PrBoomGL for a Sam460?  They won't run unless a Radeon 9250 is installed, and as far as I am aware no Sam460s ship with that graphics card (yeah, I know it's kinda daft, if only the PCI slot wasn't taken up by a SATA card).

Side note:  "Software 3D" games like Quake 1, Payback or Freespace should work.   But anything using Warp3D or MiniGL won't, at least until AmigaOS4.2.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: giZmo350 on October 05, 2011, 12:09:43 AM
Thanks for all this info and your hospitality eliyahu!
 
Also, Congrats to AmigoSteve too! :)
 
Yea, I have a ton of old PC games on CD that were made to run on DOS. Many VGA games that were very fun to play. I have the Ultimate Infocom games package that will be fun to break out again along with some old titles that I never even really got to play. I have run DOSBOX on WinXP and it's excellent. Double-click on an ADF.... how awesome is that! Again thanks!
 
Rog...........
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: eliyahu on October 05, 2011, 12:26:14 AM
Quote from: ChrisH;662490
Why are people recommending 3D games like Quake 3 or PrBoomGL for a Sam460?  They won't run unless a Radeon 9250 is installed, and as far as I am aware no Sam460s ship with that graphics card (yeah, I know it's kinda daft, if only the PCI slot wasn't taken up by a SATA card).

Side note:  "Software 3D" games like Quake 1, Payback or Freespace should work.   But anything using Warp3D or MiniGL won't, at least until AmigaOS4.2.
that's an excellent point, chris.  neither the onboard video -- the SM502 -- nor any of the radeon HD cards currently have working 3D drivers at this time. if one wants to use anything that requires miniGL, one might want to use an older, PCI-based graphics card like the radeon 9250 in the interim.

thanks for reminding the thread of this. i had forgotten (well, since i don't have the newer 460). :o

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: bbond007 on October 05, 2011, 01:11:59 AM
Quote from: AmigoSteve;662431
Hi everyone, this morning I went onto the amigakit website and have bought myself a SAM460 basic system!

I am a huge gaming fan and would like to know which games you recommend (please don't say os4 depot or something like that)

I am aware of BOH, word me up xxl, Alinearis 2, super workbench games, crossfire 2

Also which old amiga games do you know that work with the SAM eg heretic 2, wipeout 2097...


Myst may run :) thats a cool game.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: Templario on October 05, 2011, 03:58:20 PM
Man, in OS4Depot there are some good games.
But a good games for Sam are 1941 Extreme Deluxe but the previous version to current the 2.0
Battle for the Wesnoth.
FreeSpace 1.
NeverBall but the MiniGolf game.
And others that I don't remember.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: AmigoSteve on October 05, 2011, 05:04:47 PM
Thanks everyone!!

Gizmo350- did you buy the complete system from amigakit? I almost went for that instead of the basic, im still not sure I made the right choice, with the hddvd, 2gb of ram and radeon card mine came to £890.

For a complete system with all that stuff. It would have been around £63 more.

I got the basic due to the price but am worried about the performance of the 1gh processor compared to the complete systems 1.15ghz especially as the amigaone 500 will be at 1.15ghz
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: giZmo350 on October 05, 2011, 05:37:50 PM
Hi AmigoSteve, Yeah, I bought the Complete System w/2GB mem, the SD Card, the Radeon HD 4650 1GB video card, the keyboard & mouse, and the card reader. I figured I might as well go for the gold & it wasn't that much more for the additional stuff. I probably won't use the card reader after I transplant everything into the Silverstone case but, Meh... As far as the Amigaone 500 it's the exact same setup but just a different case. Not sure just how much more performance .15GHz will provide though anyway. So, I wouldn't worry if I were you. Probably can't even tell the difference. :) To tell you the truth, I'm more concerned about emulation performance. Post back when you get yours as will I & we can compare notes. I'm gonna do a writeup with pics and post to my website too.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: AmigoSteve on October 05, 2011, 05:57:15 PM
Thanks gizmo350.

I will let you know on that one.


Another question for you, I am sure I will ask many on this site. My last amiga was\is an a1200 with an 030 and 16mb of ram. I have been following it for a long time but only now decided to take the plunge and get a new system...

how effective do you think the graphics card will be without 3d driver support? I hope a download for it will be available.
At the moment it seems like I could have saved money with an older one and been able to use more software with it!
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: giZmo350 on October 05, 2011, 06:44:32 PM
To tell you the truth (maybe someone else can answer) I'm not sure why the resellers only offer the Radeon 4650 card. Maybe a logistical thing or a compatibility thing (hope it's not due to hardware compatibility with other graphics cards). I'm sure it's just a matter of drivers. Like Chris said, you would need a 9250 to support Warp3D or MiniGL in software (I'm sure someone else has tried this and that the 9250 drivers work with the SAM board?). Did you buy the 4650 or just going to use the on-board graphics? From waht it sounds like, ACube/Hyperion is working on a 3D driver for the 4650 though or maybe even the on-board graphics - not sure which. I bought the 4650 for the OS4 support and the graphics card's 1GB on-board memory. I know, terrible reply... I'm sure someone else can make sense of all this though. Rog.........
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: AmigoSteve on October 05, 2011, 07:07:56 PM
Yeah, i bought the radeon.

Thanks for your reply, will just have to wait and see what happens about support for this.

 I bought it with mine because I was sure the onboard graphics wouldn't be up to the job. Just hope it gets sorted because I want to be able to play all the PPC games available for the amiga.

Bet you can't wait to get your SAM, i am VERY excited im getting mine. I had been thinking about getting one for ages!
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: Piru on October 05, 2011, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: AmigoSteve;662557
I ... am worried about the performance of the 1gh processor compared to the complete systems 1.15ghz especially as the amigaone 500 will be at 1.15ghz

The AMCC 460 is rather poor performer regardless of if it is 1 or 1.15GHz. It's a rehash of the 1999 PowerPC 440 core, after all.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: giZmo350 on October 05, 2011, 07:26:03 PM
How about the X1000? You for or against that?
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: Piru on October 05, 2011, 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: gizmo350;662567
How about the X1000? You for or against that?
Against. Mainly due to the insanity of creating one off custom HW based on end of line CPU, and with insane costs. Although it at least can perform assuming the OS uses both of the cores and makes proper use of the Altivec. I suppose some ppc linux guys might be interested.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: persia on October 05, 2011, 07:35:44 PM
The OP has already made up their minds in the red-blue saga, so really your post is unhelpful.  There are places to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of the various AmigaOnes, this topic is not one of them.

Quote from: Piru;662566
The AMCC 460 is rather poor performer regardless of if it is 1 or 1.15GHz. It's a rehash of the 1999 PowerPC 440 core, after all.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: Piru on October 05, 2011, 07:49:12 PM
Quote from: persia;662569
The OP has already made up their minds in the red-blue saga, so really your post is unhelpful.
Of course they've made up their mind, it's quite evident from this thread.

What I've seen in this thread however seem to indicate that the new users are hoping for more than what they'll get. Many buyers seem to be unaware of the relatively poor performance (AmigaONE G4 is faster in many tasks) and driver support issues (no 3D unless if you downgrade your graphics card).

Future might bring new 3d drivers or PPC JIT for UAE, but those things are not reality as of now.

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There are places to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of the various AmigaOnes, this topic is not one of them.
Oh. I thought that was discussed in this thread already. My mistake.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: giZmo350 on October 05, 2011, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: Piru;662575
Of course they've made up their mind, it's quite evident from this thread.
 
What I've seen in this thread however seem to indicate that the new users are hoping for more than what they'll get. Many buyers seem to be unaware of the relatively poor performance (AmigaONE G4 is faster in many tasks) and driver support issues (no 3D unless if you downgrade your graphics card).
 
Future might bring new 3d drivers or PPC JIT for UAE, but those things are not reality as of now.
 
 
Oh. I thought that was discussed in this thread already. My mistake.

Check out Captain Obvious! Why are you simply repeating what was discussed? Your response to Persia was not what he meant and you know it! What I think you're really trying to say is that anyone that buys a SAM is an idiot and a stupid dummy McDumDum! Right? Anyone that discusses buying a new SAM doesn't have the right to do so here without being ridiculed! Right? Not everyone has the $$$ for an X1000 (we know, you think that's a piece of crap too - got anything better on the drawing board smarta$$?). The kid that started this post simply asked if anyone could recommend some games for the SAM. I'm sure your next response will be to rephrase your argument. Piru, you a left wing politition? If not you ought to look into it 'cause you would make a great one! We're just tryin having some fun here and you have to pi$$ all over it. Why? Way to wreck this post! I know what's coming next "MODS! Someone is discussing Amiga computers here on this website! Better stop or BAN them!" GEEEEEEEEEEEEZUZ! Ya Effin Crybaby!
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: Puni/Void on October 05, 2011, 08:30:51 PM
Hi there AmigaSteve,

Congratulations on purchasing the SAM460! :)

I wouldn't worry too much about the performance of the CPU and the system itself. AmigaOS 4 is incredible snappy and efficient and will run smooth on your computer. :) No worries there.

Now.. you asked for games. It has been mentioned previously in this thread, but my recommandation is The Battle for Wesnoth. It is a great turn-based strategy game. I did the mistake of just "trying it out" once, but was stuck playing it for months afterwards. There are a ton of cool campaigns to play and when you've finished those, you can download more through the game itself! High recommended.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: Piru on October 05, 2011, 08:38:10 PM
Quote from: gizmo350;662579
Why are you simply repeating what was discussed?
So now that I mention these things (perhaps repeating them) it suddenly is a horrible horrible thing. Uh what?

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Your response to Persia was not what he meant and you know it!
Hmm wait, now you're really cryptic. Care to elaborate? I have hard time deciphering these suggestions and veiled "you know what he REALLY meant!" kind of arguments.

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What I think you're really trying to say is that anyone that buys a SAM is an idiot and a stupid dummy McDumDum! Right?
No. Why would I want to do that?

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Anyone that discusses buying a new SAM doesn't have the right to do so here without being ridiculed! Right?
Was someone ridiculed? How? Where?

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Not everyone has the $$$ for an X1000 (we know, you think that's a piece of crap too - got anything better on the drawing board smarta$$?).
If you insist on bringing new custom HW projects, no. It doesn't invalidate my opinion however. The opinion I brought up only because it was specifically asked for in this thread. You know the thing called "discussion", which many boards, including amiga.org aim for.

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The kid that started this post simply asked if anyone could recommend some games for the SAM.
I think that part of the thread has been answered quite well. Next, the discussion turned into emulation, 3D support and many other important things, which are quite relevant in amiga gaming.

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I'm sure your next response will be to rephrase your argument. Piru, you a left wing politition? If not you ought to look into it 'cause you would make a great one!
Since you asked no, I am not. I was asked to run for the parliament (twice) though, so I may have some of the qualifications (be them good or bad), but being a windmill isn't one of them. I'm quite consistent I believe. That being said, I doubt you're really that interested about my political affiliations.

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We're just tryin having some fun here and you have to pi$$ all over it.
That's your interpretation of it. However, in my view my comments are only pointing out some of the facts of the situation. Some of the facts are uncomfortable for sure.

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Why? Way to wreck this post! I know what's coming next "MODS! Someone is discussing Amiga computers here on this website! Better stop or BAN them!" GEEEEEEEEEEEEZUZ! Ya Effin Crybaby!
...
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: runequester on October 05, 2011, 09:03:46 PM
Quote from: gizmo350;662579
I'm sure your next response will be to rephrase your argument. Piru, you a left wing politition?


My friends, I give you the results of "No child left behind"
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: giZmo350 on October 05, 2011, 09:11:26 PM
Quote from: runequester;662584
My friends, I give you the results of "No child left behind"

Sorry....   "politician".   Happy?
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: eliyahu on October 05, 2011, 09:45:27 PM
Quote from: AmigoSteve;662560
how effective do you think the graphics card will be without 3d driver support? I hope a download for it will be available.
At the moment it seems like I could have saved money with an older one and been able to use more software with it!
well, 'it depends.' :)

the 2D performance of the PCIe-based radeon HD cards is terrific on the SAM460, far and away the most performant 2D graphics of any OS4 system to date. so if you're not terribly interested in 3D FPS-style games, go with this option. otherwise you can use a radeon 9250 in the PCI slot. it's not nearly as quick as the PCIe cards, but it does have 3D support, so quake3 and the like can be played.

3D drivers for the radeon HD cards are 'coming soon' and should be discussed in greater detail at amiwest (http://www.amiwest.net) three weeks from now. but both the radeon HD cards and the older 9250 are so cheap, if you want, you could always buy 'em both. ;)

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: AmigoSteve on October 05, 2011, 10:11:09 PM
Id like to thank everyone for their discussions on this, particularly gizmo350's as he too is looking forward to getting his SAM.
 I have been reading this site for a long time an these are my first few posts. It is great to share thoughts and feelings with those who are passionate about the amiga.


I take your point piru, and I am aware performance/price could be better but I have a pc and want what in my mind at least I consider to be an amiga.

I would love everyone to have the same views as me and the amiga to go in the direction I would like ie SAM. I want the amiga to stand on its own, not be a pc as commodore usa are turning it into or based around one. The x1000 will be out of my price range (unless it gets great software support not available for the SAM)

Lets enjoy what we have (its seems to be getting better) whichever side you take. The amiga community is so special, lets not spoil it.

P.s.as the conversation has turned a bit towards hardware can anyone tell me if I can use a ps/2 keyboard with the SAM460 as opposed to a USB one?
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: eliyahu on October 05, 2011, 10:15:02 PM
Quote from: AmigoSteve;662593
P.s.as the conversation has turned a bit towards hardware can anyone tell me if I can use a ps/2 keyboard with the SAM460 as opposed to a USB one?
AFAIK, not without third-party hardware, no.

-- eliyahu
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: AmigoSteve on October 05, 2011, 11:08:33 PM
Oh, ok. What about an old imac g3 usb keyboard?

Regarding the radeonhd 4650, I take from this thread that hertic 2, wipeout 2097 and shogo won't work?

btw jooleem and 1941 extreme are FANTASTIC (even though i have been playing them on pc at the mo)
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on October 05, 2011, 11:12:36 PM
Quote from: gizmo350;662567
Quote from: Piru;662566
The AMCC 460 is rather poor performer regardless of if it is 1 or 1.15GHz. It's a rehash of the 1999 PowerPC 440 core, after all.
I'm not sure what your point is


Maybe he simply means that that this CPU is really a *poor performer* per clock cycle in comparison to others...?

Hmm...
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on October 05, 2011, 11:27:33 PM
Quote from: gizmo350;662579
anyone that buys a SAM is an idiot and a stupid dummy McDumDum!


Well, OK, I'll bite that bait!

Is there really *any other way* to put it, other than in the above quote?

???

Please note that *I DO* respect Acube for their effort, I *really do*, and (in opposite of Hyperion) they seem to *actually deliver* and have *a pretty good quality threshold* for their public releases!

But really, come on, buying *that* "bang" for *that* "buck"?!?!

Sorry, but no...
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: F1Lupo on October 06, 2011, 12:18:33 AM
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;662602
Maybe he simply means that that this CPU is really a *poor performer* per clock cycle in comparison to others...?

Hmm...


ok here we go yet again..sigh

Piru & Grandma, we ALL get it & know you must post FUD on every AmigaOS4 specific  thread here SO please open a thread on the MOS site or this one  complaining how the used Macs are better than the Sam 460 & X1000 and please leave this thread alone
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: B00tDisk on October 06, 2011, 08:00:20 PM
Quote from: AmigoSteve;662457
Thanks, I will check some of them out and whet my appetite for them over the next few weeks whilst I wait for my SAM!


There's about 2000 or so PS1 games you can run under FPSE.

I recommend the Syphon Filter series myself.  Just remember that if you tase someone, rest a heavy book on whatever button you have mapped to "X", then come back in about 20 minutes. x-)
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: utri007 on October 06, 2011, 10:25:10 PM
Quote from: klx300r;662611
Piru & Grandma, we ALL get it & know you must post FUD on every AmigaOS4 specific  thread here SO please open a thread on the MOS site or this one  complaining how the used Macs are better than the Sam 460 & X1000 and please leave this thread alone


I found this really interesting, it seems that every MorphOsfan is more interested Os4 than MorphOs. They hijack every thread where Os4 is mentioned and MorphOs threads are dead empties.

Currently they are saying Sam/Os4 users as a idiots.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: AmigoSteve on October 06, 2011, 10:30:28 PM
Im think I will change the original question because I am getting a little confused as to which games will work on my SAM460.

So could you please tell me which games will run with a radeon4650hd graphics card. From this thread so far I assume shogo, heretic 2, wipeout 2097 and quake 2 won't work.

What about crossfire 2, word me up xxl, neverball, payback, freespace 1/2, the feeble files, quake

Can anyone tell me for certain if these games will work or not.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: Karlos on October 06, 2011, 10:34:20 PM
Quote from: AmigoSteve;662758
So could you please tell me which games will run with a radeon4650hd graphics card. From this thread so far I assume shogo, heretic 2, wipeout 2097 and quake 2 won't work.


Correction, they won't work for now and probably not for a while. They should work once 3D support is available for the RadeonHD, whatever form that support eventually takes.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: AmigoSteve on October 06, 2011, 10:46:09 PM
Thats a shame, hopefuly will be worth it later on down the line.

I guess however that the graphics card, or the onboard graphics be able to handle everyting else not requiring a 3d graphics card?
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: Argo on October 07, 2011, 03:27:36 AM
Let's stay on target.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: F1Lupo on October 07, 2011, 03:44:33 AM
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I found this really interesting, it seems that every MorphOsfan is more interested Os4 than MorphOs. They hijack every thread where Os4 is mentioned and MorphOs threads are dead empties.

Currently they are saying Sam/Os4 users as a idiots.

well actually no it's only the usual suspects really & shouldn't be generalized to all MOS users at all.

what's actually interesting is that post got deleted & the same crap happens time and time again here:confused:
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: Piru on October 07, 2011, 06:35:27 AM
Quote from: AmigoSteve;662764
Thats a shame, hopefuly will be worth it later on down the line.

Indeed it is a shame. Even more so when people buy current expensive high end cards that might not have any 3D support for quite a while. By the time the support is here you could get a such a card for peanuts.

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I guess however that the graphics card, or the onboard graphics be able to handle everyting else not requiring a 3d graphics card?

Unfortunately the onboard graphics has a maximum resolution of 1280x1024.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: Karlos on October 07, 2011, 08:07:48 AM
Quote from: Piru;662784
Indeed it is a shame. Even more so when people buy current expensive high end cards that might not have any 3D support for quite a while. By the time the support is here you could get a such a card for peanuts.


Well, to be fair, the HD4650 is hardly "current expensive high end". It's obviously got a lot more poke than the 9250's of this world, but they're old news in the PC market and you can pick them up brand new right now for around 20 quid: http://www.pc-titan.com/product_info.php?currency=GBP&info=p7746_Various-Radeon-HD-4650--512MB-DDR2--VGA--DVI--TV-out.html

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Unfortunately the onboard graphics has a maximum resolution of 1280x1024.


Oddly enough, the resolution I use for my A1, though that's more a limitation of my old CRT (1600x1200 doesn't look so hot on it anymore) than the hardware.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: drHirudo on October 07, 2011, 08:20:53 AM
Quote from: AmigoSteve;662758

What about crossfire 2, word me up xxl, neverball, payback, freespace 1/2, the feeble files, quake

Can anyone tell me for certain if these games will work or not.


CrossFire 2 (http://hirudov.com/amiga/Crossfire2.php) works on AmigaOS 4 even with the classic version. With the freely downloadable patch for AmigaOS 4 you will have some extras. You just need to set low resolutions for your monitor if you don't have them already (320x240) is not perfect looking for next gen Amiga, but it is classic Amiga game, and good one as well.

Quake works okay on AmigaOS 4. I've test the old blocky version and the GL version that looks much more smoother and nicer.
Title: Re: Recomend some games for SAM460?
Post by: AmigoSteve on October 08, 2011, 11:15:16 AM
Thanks, am pleased about crossfire 2. When I get the SAM I hope to buy that along with bubbelsche deluxe and word me up xxl, They should all work with the radeon4650...I hope.

Swamp defence should be out soon.

Are there any other games in the pipeline?