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Operating System Specific Discussions => Other Operating Systems => Topic started by: Argo on July 20, 2013, 06:44:00 AM
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Any one seen this yet?
http://www.os4online.com/
Created a bit of a buzz over at AROS-EXEC. Though noone is sure what the aim is. Some kind of Amiga Linux mash up, but I'm not sure that was the original aim. Seems to be shooting for something like AEros but muttling their way there as the devs come from Linux.
Then again, they might get sued before they figure it out and get Amiga stuff working.
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Any one seen this yet?
http://www.os4online.com/
Created a bit of a buzz over at AROS-EXEC. Though noone is sure what the aim is. Some kind of Amiga Linux mash up, but I'm not sure that was the original aim. Seems to be shooting for something like AEros but muttling their way there as the devs come from Linux.
Then again, they might get sued before they figure it out and get Amiga stuff working.
Didn't some guys a couple of years ago split from AROS and decided to do a linux distro, that had folders like AOS, looked liked AOS and functioned like AOS, but was linux under the hood? The name is escaping me right now. I remember Nicholas and I discussing it back in the day.....
I think it was called Icarus or something like that. Not Icaros, mind you. They had a page for a while, but I seem to remember it never going anywhere.
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Wasn't that the one offering grand deals at $115 for the distro with Amiga Forever here recently?
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Wasn't that the one offering grand deals at $115 for the distro with Amiga Forever here recently?
No, originally, it was some guys that worked on or with the AROS people. Then, they created some sort of fork, but realized they couldn't do what they wanted to do with AROS, so they had this grandiose idea of making an environment that was Amiga OS, but everything under the hood, was linux. That way, all the drivers were linux drivers, it used GL, etc, but it was supposed to feel exactly like running the Amiga OS. I remember remarking how it was similar to Amithlon, in the driver aspect, but like I said, it never went anywhere. I wish I could remember the name......
I came across it on here. I don't and haven't really ever frequented another Amiga site. During the "great purge" where everyone else ran off to create the "perfect Amiga site", I stayed here, with all unwanted. ;)
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http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=740872&postcount=4
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Anubis
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=40824 (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=40824)
Close, started and closed again.
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Any one seen this yet?
http://www.os4online.com/
Created a bit of a buzz over at AROS-EXEC.
aros guys take it easy for most part. created much more buzz on amigaworld.net:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=37810&forum=17
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=37859&forum=17
with also some threads on amigans, amiga-news.de and some mention on morphzone apparently. most affected seems to be os4 crowd, mostly those who consider them defenders of "amiga" and either have some hopes or usually consider it a threat for the label.
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most affected seems to be os4 crowd, mostly those who consider them defenders of "amiga" and either have some hopes or usually consider it a threat for the label.
I think it affects AmigaOS 4 users more because OS 4 Linux has the same name. If it was called MorphOS Linux, there'd be exactly the same reaction from MorphOS users.
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"OS4 OpenLinux" has absolutely positively nothing to do with Amiga or AmigaOS4.
They could call it PS3 OpenLinux or Xbox 360 OpenLinux or Nintendo Wii OpenLinux and it would be the exact same product with the exact same relevance.
Its just a Intel Linux Distro. You know, like all those other free linux distros such as Ubuntu or Debian. Only "OS4 OpenLinux" costs a big pile of money.
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No, originally, it was some guys that worked on or with the AROS people. Then, they created some sort of fork, but realized they couldn't do what they wanted to do with AROS, so they had this grandiose idea of making an environment that was Amiga OS, but everything under the hood, was linux. That way, all the drivers were linux drivers, it used GL, etc, but it was supposed to feel exactly like running the Amiga OS. I remember remarking how it was similar to Amithlon, in the driver aspect, but like I said, it never went anywhere. I wish I could remember the name......
I came across it on here. I don't and haven't really ever frequented another Amiga site. During the "great purge" where everyone else ran off to create the "perfect Amiga site", I stayed here, with all unwanted. ;)
Two more weeks. ;)
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Two more weeks. ;)
anubis had never any chance. but the idea was not completely wrong and.. but i shall keep my mouth..
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I think it affects AmigaOS 4 users more because OS 4 Linux has the same name. If it was called MorphOS Linux, there'd be exactly the same reaction from MorphOS users.
how about to target those people next:
http://www.os4.de/
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Yes, the name was Icarus. It was just another Linux distro with a desktop manager that had an Amiga "look" to it. Nothing at all special about it.....like we don't already have enough Linux distros already. Every time I turn around some clown fragments Linux even further by creating another branching and gives it some silly name and then like a snake oil salesman tries to get others to use it because it is somehow "better" than all previous versions of Linux.
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anubis had never any chance. but the idea was not completely wrong and.. but i shall keep my mouth..
I'm keeping mine shut too for now. :)
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"OS4 OpenLinux" has absolutely positively nothing to do with Amiga or AmigaOS4.
They could call it PS3 OpenLinux or Xbox 360 OpenLinux or Nintendo Wii OpenLinux and it would be the exact same product with the exact same relevance.
Its just a Intel Linux Distro. You know, like all those other free linux distros such as Ubuntu or Debian. Only "OS4 OpenLinux" costs a big pile of money.
It is actually free;
http://sourceforge.net/projects/os4online/files/rel13.5/
slaapliedje
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AmigaWorld.net - OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=37810&forum=17)
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AmigaWorld.net - OS4 OpenLinux: Regarding the Amiga Community (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=37810&forum=17)
He was also interviewed on Ashachat:
Sunday night IRC chat June 30.2013 (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=29201&forum=2&start=160&viewmode=flat&order=0#710736)
And he also was posed and responded to about 3 hours of questions the following week after the Steven Solie q/a:
Sunday night IRC chat July 7, 2013 (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=29201&forum=2&start=180&viewmode=flat&order=0#711445)
Last week was a regular meeting without q/a, but Robert Dohnert had a discussion with terminills about AROS, amongst other things.
No idea if that was logged.
Tomorrow night:
Trevor Dickinson (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?mode=viewtopic&topic_id=29201&forum=2&start=180&viewmode=flat&order=0#712561)
Portions of the team*amiga channel logs are posted:
http://www.intuitionbase.com/static.php?section=irc
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Interesting... So it's mostly confusion about the name....
we called it OS4 Workspace. But, some people e-mailed us and were upset because they assumed OS4 Workspace was the AmigaOS on x86 even though never marketed as such. So we changed it
Good, that should alleviate the confusion because..
to OS4 OpenDesktop
D'oh!!
So, they thought the confusion was because it "Workspace" sounded too much like Workbench maybe??
and still confusion was rampant
OK, so they know now that it wasn't the "Workspace" part of the name.. Whew..
and we changed the name to OS4 OpenLinux and OS4 Enterprise Linux.
Seriously???
These are smart guys, but they are saying they don't recognize the OS4 to Amiga connection in the name??
Really?
At least say something like "We realize OS4 might sound related to Amiga OS4, but it's not related at all."
Instead, they say, yeah there is confusion and we're willing to change the name... But it's obviously not the OS4 part of the name, so we'll change the other part.."
;-)
So, if I came out with a gamesystem called the Playstation PSWon... And people were confused, my first choice should be to rename it to the Playstation Winner??
(Not taking into account trademark issues, just considering customer "confusion" here)
desiv
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Two more weeks. ;)
Days, Weeks, Months, Amiwest?
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I don't understand these guys. They started out with a product with a name coincidentally similar to an Amiga operating system, but no actual connection. So instead of going on their merry way, now they're capitalizing on the confusion: adding knock-off boing balls, adding hosted AROS to their distro, reselling PPC Macs with MorphOS pre-installed (!), licensing Amiga Forever, (mis)directing users interested in AmigaOS4 to Amiga Inc.
I can't tell if this potential exposure of our preferred family of OSes to non-Amigans is a good thing or not. My inner curmudgeon wishes that these kinds of interlopers would just leave us alone. :)
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Days, Weeks, Months, Amiwest?
I wish I had the money to fly over for this years AmiWest, I hear it's going to be the best one ever!
Mind you I don't fancy the colonoscopy by the TSA when I land on US soil because I'm on several lists for being a "ne'er do well Shi'ite Muslim Fundamentalist". Lol
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I don't understand these guys. They started out with a product with a name coincidentally similar to an Amiga operating system, but no actual connection. So instead of going on their merry way, now they're capitalizing on the confusion: adding knock-off boing balls, adding hosted AROS to their distro, reselling PPC Macs with MorphOS pre-installed (!), licensing Amiga Forever, (mis)directing users interested in AmigaOS4 to Amiga Inc.
I can't tell if this potential exposure of our preferred family of OSes to non-Amigans is a good thing or not. My inner curmudgeon wishes that these kinds of interlopers would just leave us alone. :)
apparently the controversy causes unusual traffic on their sites which improves some rankings. who knows. might be all, but might be more to it.
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I sorta grinned when the guy mentioned being in contact with Barry from CUSA prior. Awfully familiar, isn't it.
CUSA capitalized on the confusion as best as they could as well.
I wish these Linux guys the best - but I still didn't get an answer to my question:
What exactly warrants the $115 cost on the distro with AF included via them, when I can just DL the distro and buy AF for $10 separately?
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I wish I had the money to fly over for this years AmiWest, I hear it's going to be the best one ever!
Mind you I don't fancy the colonoscopy by the TSA when I land on US soil because I'm on several lists for being a "ne'er do well Shi'ite Muslim Fundamentalist". Lol
Nice to see we still have things in common. ;P Don't worry..... All that NSA spying is "exaggerated", so the Gov'ment tell us. ;)
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apparently the controversy causes unusual traffic on their sites which improves some rankings. who knows. might be all, but might be more to it.
I'm sure there is more to it. They're Cylons.
And they have a PLAN!!!!!!!!
LOL! Does this mean that the new OS4 mobos are the Final Five? I only ask, 'cos AmigaOne, AmigaOne-U (or whatever it was called), Sam 440, Sam 460, X1000. Coincidence? I think not! :insane:
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I saw a video videos on youtube, bears zero resemblence to anything amiga except for the boing ball wallpaper, so I guess I just don't get it.
Its ubuntu with xfce, pretty standard linux. Looks like they took xfce ubuntu and changed the wallpaper and a few things. (yawn)
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I saw a video videos on youtube, bears zero resemblence to anything amiga except for the boing ball wallpaper, so I guess I just don't get it.
Its ubuntu with xfce, pretty standard linux. Looks like they took xfce ubuntu and changed the wallpaper and a few things. (yawn)
My KDE setup is more Amiga-like than their POS re-skin.
I have Kens Icons, Click to focus window, double click to raise window, FS-UAE on a separate physical 1080p screen, shared folders between Linux and FS-UAE, AROS-hosted on its own screen, VNC session to my MorphOS machine on a separate screen and I use Kens Icons on the UAE 3.9 emulated machine, AROS hosted session, the MorphOS machine and the KDE desktop.
I should create a live CD of my setup with an installer and sell it as an official Amiga Linux OS4 through Commodore Amiga Iran.
I'm sure it would probably sell more than this crap Ubuntu re-skin, be a more authentic Amiga experience and also it will be legally allowed to use the Commodore Amiga trademark since I own the company and the rights. ;)
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Nice to see we still have things in common. ;P Don't worry..... All that NSA spying is "exaggerated", so the Gov'ment tell us. ;)
When i worked at the Islamic Centre of England in London which is the official centre of the Iranian govt I was followed several times when going to and from the Centre. These people have nothing better to do it seems.
"Islamic" terrorists are 100% Wahabbi Sunnis who blindly follow the violent official doctrine of the USA's best busy Saudi Arabia (or Occupied Hijaz as we refer to it) so quite why they consider Shi'as who are going about their job teaching the less well versed of our community about authentic Islam is a mystery to me.
Anyway back to the topic, OS4 Open Linux is a ridiculous scam. Even Merlancia was a better class of swindle than this pile of ****. Lol
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I think it affects AmigaOS 4 users more because OS 4 Linux has the same name. If it was called MorphOS Linux, there'd be exactly the same reaction from MorphOS users.
Hmmm, I couldn't find a linux distro called Morph Linux. I smell an opportunity!
Have to hit GIMP and work up a blue Luna Moth logo...
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I don't understand these guys. They started out with a product with a name coincidentally similar to an Amiga operating system, but no actual connection. So instead of going on their merry way, now they're capitalizing on the confusion: adding knock-off boing balls, adding hosted AROS to their distro, reselling PPC Macs with MorphOS pre-installed (!), licensing Amiga Forever, (mis)directing users interested in AmigaOS4 to Amiga Inc.
I can't tell if this potential exposure of our preferred family of OSes to non-Amigans is a good thing or not. My inner curmudgeon wishes that these kinds of interlopers would just leave us alone. :)
Exactly. Why they could just keep their PC Linux being PC Linux they decided to change name, dedicate a distro to Barry Altman ... and then quite continue where he left off ... by changing name to Amiga Open Linux at one point, integrating AROS and now selling MorphOS systems with promise of PPC port of their Linux. I haven`t seen reactions on AROS EXEC, but on AW.net it looks like more polite version of C=USA
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Exactly. Why they could just keep their PC Linux being PC Linux they decided to change name, dedicate a distro to Barry Altman ... and then quite continue where he left off ... by changing name to Amiga Open Linux at one point, integrating AROS and now selling MorphOS systems with promise of PPC port of their Linux. I haven`t seen reactions on AROS EXEC, but on AW.net it looks like more polite version of C=USA
Perhaps clicking a link would help. 4 pages so far:
OS4 Open Linux (http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?start=0&topic_id=8340&viewmode=flat&order=ASC&type=&mode=0)
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Just saw it now! Nice link..
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Hmmm, I couldn't find a linux distro called Morph Linux. I smell an opportunity!
Have to hit GIMP and work up a blue Luna Moth logo...
http://www.morphix.org
It's been around for over a decade.