AMD system with Amiga Forever 6

[Holley]

lol, sounds like the learning curve is starting :-)

Might be a good idea to start a new thread should you get stuck again ... most problems that people new to Amiga emulation have are down to knowledge of Workbench, as you've already had an amiga you should find it much easier!

Anyway, hope you're enjoying yourself :-D

BTW Make sure you set Windows to auto-update BTW, there's always something new trying to get in (had about 70 PCs get Agobot at work here).  If you do web browsing in Windows (under any browser) get yourself a copy of Spybot (http://safer-networking.org) as it saves the smaller bugs from coming in.

[Trinity]

@Holley ....forgive me (in advance) if this is not the 'right' forum to post my question in

 when I try to download Mozilla in AF6 , it needs an OS?
  how would I go about this ? Linux? ...or XP? Also when I try using A-Web in AF6 it constantly 'reloads' to window ... well at least for 30 seconds or more , each time ...why is that?

trinity

[Holley]

Mozilla isn't available for Amiga (yet), so it can only be used under Linux or Windows.  

As for AWeb, download the latest PL (public license) version (sorry, can't remember the site) - it's on 3.5.01 Beta IIRC, and works much better than the trial 3.4 version that comes with OS 3.9.  It's not ideal, but works fine for me here (or at least it will when I've got time to sort my SSL woes, can't get into my email!).

[Trinity]

Holley ...I can't even seem to download amiga.org.on AF6........without a lot of blitter ??
 maybe should just use AF6 for graphic apps? my Peg is coming soon ...smiles.
 trinity

[odin]

@trinity:

Have you edited all your postings in this thread to blank postings?!? Or am I just *not* seeing things which really are in place :crazy:.

[blobrana]

@odin
they`ve been blanked...

[But, can you not mind read?]



Anyway, my experience with running amigos on my AMD has been always positive, so much so that i find myself mostly using that system instead of the `real` amiga!!!

Though, i still find that the sound output not quite 100% and certain `incompatibilities` with the usual programs that i run.

My one tip for all beginners is to install the P96 package that comes with AF6/WinUAE, it`ll just improve/speedup  the graphics soooo much, that it may travel backwards in time...

[Hammer]

that so many "intel outside" / other anti-MS people use ... tadaaaa Windows.

I don't recall my AMD processor sporting an "Intel Inside" logo...

[Hammer]

For that matter WinUAE 2.8.27 runs dog slow on my 64bit laptop too, (SNIP)

Probably issues with WinUAE**'s CPU idle detection system...

**0.8.21.R4 introduces "CPU idle patch (no more 100% CPU usage)" feature (I rather have 100 percent override). Sometimes, this detection system causes WinUAE’s CPU percentage values to stay low(e.g. <10 percent)(even IF one do something within emulate ecosystem) thus, slowing down emulation speed.

I have experience this issue with 0.8.27 and 0.9.9Beta1 (occasionally, but rare). I use WinUAE 8.21.R3 as reference.

[Holley]

@Trinity
If it 'flashes' in black it's probably due to AWeb3.4, the beta of the public license AWeb 3.5 is downloadable (sorry, can't remember where from) and that works much better.

As for speed problems, on Laptops check the windows priority and CPU throttling settings, I'm using WinUAE .8.27 on a 1.2GHz P3 and it flies along :-)

[Trinity]

Holley ::.no trouble with the speed , very fast system , but if i could fine AWEB 3.5 , life would be better ...since i can't at the moment , i have to login here in XP, as when i do in AF6 . it won't even post to amiga org.... well something has to done here ... ever since my accident ...and subsequent tramua's ..brain concussion(s)3 of them, it can be very hard to focus ... and the meds don't help either ..pain killers and opium patches... but i still persist ...at least the 1.3OS and it's apps work ...
can't seem to download AF6 updates from AWEB or even hold it in for the AWEB updates ...I know i'm missing something here ...just can't sort it out ... maybe I need a "MAP" lol

[Trinity]

@Holley ::
OK just tried aweb again ,this was the message :

ERROR
while retieveing URL: x-web: http://aweb.sunsite.dk

 Invalid internal(x-aweb) name "http://aweb.sunsite.dk


 Trinity

[Holley]

You'll get there in the end I'm sure.  AF updates would be designed to be saved and run under Windows BTW.

It's alot of learning, I'm afraid many Amiga users forget just how much stuff there is to it!  (BTW it's no easier trying to emulate a PC without any prior knowledge of them ;-))

[Trinity]

holley :: well i did have and modified a 3000tower ...so i not a gringo to amiga ...Is that the right addy for aweb3.5?

[Trinity]

Holley :: I did get aweb 3.5 downloaded ...into ram , and i'll also need some 3.4  info but Ram is full , so  managed to create a drawer for all of the aweb dnlds.. But message is "unknown datatypes" for aweb 3.5 when i open it ?

[Holley]

It doesn't really matter where you download the .lha archive to, as long as you don't lose it ;-)

Under the full OS 3.9 there's a program called 'Unpacker' that will help with archives (I find it indespensable), but if thats not on the AF6 version of 3.x you'll need to get a program to unpack archives - the command line version can be found on Aminet (ftp://de.aminet.net/pub/aminet/util/arc/lha150r.run is a self-extracting version), you'll need this for all kinds of stuff so it's worth bothering with!

It's run from the shell, so you need to work out how to use it ( - there are free graphical front ends for it, but they have to be downloaded as an archive, in a catch 22 kinda way.

(Have a look here for some handy tips - http://www.amigarealm.com/archives/thisoldworkbench/html/towb01.html)

When you unarchive the 3.5 file you'll see a new drawer, and within it the installer program (it can be installed over the top of the old lite version).

[DonnyEMU]

I would like to comment that WinUAE has been very stable and very very usable under windows XP..


I just bought a new laptop computer an HP Pavilion ZV5260us which has 512MB RAM a dvd burner and an AMD Athlon 64, 64-bit x86 compatible processor.. It also has a 15.4 HI DEF widescreen 1600x1050 lcd display..


Recently I installed the preview program release of Microsoft Windows XP 64-bit edition.. Anyway after reading this entire post I decided to try out WinUAE (32bit) on the preview release.. I also have direct x installed on it..

Well I have to say three things, it's FASTER than I have ever ever seen.. I had to fool with the CPU flags but in 64 bit mode running a 32 bit app thru WOW it's AMAZINGLY FAST.. Under 32 bit XP I notice the windows redraw even at 1600x1050 resolution.. On XP 64-bit it's not the case anymore at all you cant see redraw or refresh at all. Sound and video work and everything amazingly well..

Although it's not a 32 bit app running it in 64 bit seems to improve the performance greatly. I am going to benchmark in a follow up post..