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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Pgovotsos on October 20, 2019, 05:08:52 AM

Title: Apparently iComp and Cloanto have resolved some of their issues
Post by: Pgovotsos on October 20, 2019, 05:08:52 AM
See today's entry of Jens' blog

https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/33/items/p96-v2-4-3-published.html
Title: Re: Apparently iComp and Cloanto have resolved some of their issues
Post by: kolla on October 20, 2019, 06:02:50 AM
There was nothing wrong with the original advertising...
https://www.amigaforever.com/news-events/20011029-af-rtg/
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The new license, which covers the current version and minor updates (no upgrade privileges for future major versions)*, replaces the shareware status of the Picasso96 software included in Amiga Forever.
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* At the time of this writing in 2001, the Picasso96 project was owned by its original developers Alexander Kneer and Tobias Abt. Updates released by a new Picasso96 ownership were neither envisioned nor intended to be included in Amiga Forever under this license.

This is more play it to the gallery than anything else, a way for Jens to back-paddle and still appear to be relevant. For Cloanto it just means putting an emphasis on what they already have stated umpteen times.

I find it more mind-boggling that IComp owns the rights for a driver suite for which IComp has no hardware.
Title: Re: Apparently iComp and Cloanto have resolved some of their issues
Post by: David Wright on October 20, 2019, 05:25:04 PM
I believe Jens reason for acquiring picasso was for his future plans with A1200 reloaded.
Title: Re: Apparently iComp and Cloanto have resolved some of their issues
Post by: kolla on October 20, 2019, 05:34:10 PM
Well, he’s too late to the game with that one now... his case project never happened (nor did it make any sense), others are beating him in cloning A1200, in offering FPGA systems, even in expansions and cpu boards... and his products keep attracting weird problems and his support reputation is increasingly worsening.
Title: Re: Apparently iComp and Cloanto have resolved some of their issues
Post by: klx300r on October 20, 2019, 05:52:02 PM
Well, he’s too late to the game with that one now... his case project never happened (nor did it make any sense), others are beating him in cloning A1200, in offering FPGA systems, even in expansions and cpu boards... and his products keep attracting weird problems and his support reputation is increasingly worsening.
I must correct you on Jens 'support' as I personally had amazing service recently when my RapidRoad USB stopped working after many years of daily use and he was very helpful and responsive on getting it repaired and back to me in working condition. I also have quite a few hardware kits from iComp for my classics and NG miggies and all of them been working for years with no issues
Title: Re: Apparently iComp and Cloanto have resolved some of their issues
Post by: klx300r on October 20, 2019, 05:52:51 PM
good news!
Title: Re: Apparently iComp and Cloanto have resolved some of their issues
Post by: kolla on October 20, 2019, 06:39:49 PM
I too have quite a few IComp items, most of it old stuff, all generations of catweasel, as well as Indy AGA, various IDE boards, clockports adapters, ACA1221, memory expansions for A600 etc. I have been lucky and nothing broken. Software support for the Indy has not been too impressive though. But I just don’t see why I would want to buy another IComp product, as other offers are now much more appealing. And for support, I’m talking about his general reputation, anecdotes go both ways, but increasingly in the wrong direction.
Title: Re: Apparently iComp and Cloanto have resolved some of their issues
Post by: 10MARC on October 21, 2019, 10:01:50 PM
To be honest, after reading Jens comments it just sounds like he is being a bit snarky based on what some people overheard.
Title: Re: Apparently iComp and Cloanto have resolved some of their issues
Post by: CBH on October 22, 2019, 04:45:38 AM
Jens has a rather unique method of customer support. His first instinct on hearing someone has a problem with his products is to blame commodore for not making their computers work with his designs. That the computers are older than his products doesn't sway him.
Title: Re: Apparently iComp and Cloanto have resolved some of their issues
Post by: psxphill on October 23, 2019, 11:06:07 AM
I emailed him with an idea for a product in the late 90's, he emailed back and said I'd stolen the idea from him.

He then went on to list all the technical problems that would need to be solved with his idea, which didn't make any sense. Looking at what he shipped over a decade later, it still doesn't make sense.

I'm not saying he stole my idea, it's possible we both had similar ideas. He didn't want to accept the possibility of that at all.