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Re: Recent site performance issues
« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2011, 09:29:00 PM »
I wonder if the gibberish was gz compressed content. The proxy should be telling the site not to accept this content encoding type - the cache has been written to serve both kinds of data (though it is always stored compressed).

Amusingly enough, I had serious delays just now, but my other "incognito" guest session was perfectly fast :)
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Re: Recent site performance issues
« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2011, 09:29:55 PM »
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Re: Recent site performance issues
« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2011, 09:32:34 PM »
When you log in, you will be subject to any db-induced delays. When you aren't, you'll probably find it a lot faster provided the cache is still warm. Unless you are the unlucky one that requests a page that has timed out and needs to be regenerated :D
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Re: Recent site performance issues
« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2011, 09:33:11 PM »
If the problem can be fixed "by throwing hardware at it", drop me a PM... I've got a big stack'o'servers looking at me daily begging for a decent job...
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Re: Recent site performance issues
« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2011, 09:35:55 PM »
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Well ... that was interesting.  I submitted my last post and sat at 228KB / 228KB for about three minutes before the rest of the webpage finished downloading to my machine.

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The kind of bugs I am looking for just now are things like "Becoming Piru", which is indicative of a serious bug in the cache system.

The site crawling like a wounded snail after you logged in is basically down to the DB server being too busy to respond to vBulletin's queries. Serving cached pages doesn't actually hit vBulletin at all, let alone the DB.
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Re: Recent site performance issues
« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2011, 09:36:36 PM »
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If the problem can be fixed "by throwing hardware at it", drop me a PM... I've got a big stack'o'servers looking at me daily begging for a decent job...


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Re: Recent site performance issues
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2011, 09:46:17 PM »
@Karlos

A few moments ago I tried to logout and eventually timed out.

OWB Requester contents as follows ...

Loading http://www.amiga.org/forums/login.php?do=logout&logouthash=1310416568-ec38b8e5174139829ab680a7dd065b55c7469090 failed!
Failure when receiving data from the peer
Please check the correct address for typing errors such as ww.example.com instead of http://www.example.com
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that OWB is permitted to access the Web.


Is this also due to DB server being too busy?

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Re: Recent site performance issues
« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2011, 09:53:07 PM »
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@Karlos

A few moments ago I tried to logout and eventually timed out.

OWB Requester contents as follows ...

Loading http://www.amiga.org/forums/login.php?do=logout&logouthash=1310416568-ec38b8e5174139829ab680a7dd065b55c7469090 failed!
Failure when receiving data from the peer
Please check the correct address for typing errors such as ww.example.com instead of http://www.example.com
If you are unable to load any pages, check your computer's network connection.
If your computer or network is protected by a firewall or proxy, make sure that OWB is permitted to access the Web.


Is this also due to DB server being too busy?

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Very likely, unfortunately. Absolutely every page you try to access (including the logout one) results in several DB queries that if it's very busy can end up in a queue and you wait and wait. However, if the db server is feeling particularly bitchy, it just drops the connection to the application (or prevents the application from opening it in the first place) and then you get a proper 500 error, which may or may not be intercepted by vBulletin's error handler and if so, you get vB's "Database Error" page.
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Re: Recent site performance issues
« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2011, 10:37:01 PM »
So, anybody found themselves logged in as anybody else yet?

If not, I may leave the cache enabled overnight...
« Last Edit: July 11, 2011, 10:43:50 PM by Karlos »
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Re: Recent site performance issues
« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2011, 11:51:11 PM »
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So, anybody found themselves logged in as anybody else yet?

If not, I may leave the cache enabled overnight...



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Re: Recent site performance issues
« Reply #39 on: July 12, 2011, 08:40:38 PM »
Unfortunately, it seems the cache mechanism just isn't going to function well enough without a lot of additional work. Some folks couldn't log in and the cache got polluted with IP ban notifications caused when something unwelcome tried to crawl the site meaning all and sundry were suddenly shocked to see they'd been IP banned.

So, we're back to square one.
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Re: Supporting a member
« Reply #40 on: July 14, 2011, 11:58:21 PM »
Karlos,

Before I forget it (and sorry to be off-topic), if the "top" stats on the front page are slamming the server, I honestly don't think anyone here would even miss them if you went into the Admin and killed those blocks altogether.

I know when I'm visiting Amiga.org, I don't even notice them (outside of the latest blog posts block that is).  Matter of fact, I think the "latest blog posts" block is entirely why I added those options.  Not sure.

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Re: Supporting a member
« Reply #41 on: July 15, 2011, 08:14:56 AM »
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Karlos,

Before I forget it (and sorry to be off-topic), if the "top" stats on the front page are slamming the server, I honestly don't think anyone here would even miss them if you went into the Admin and killed those blocks altogether.


I've left those cached (updates every 15mins) as they have no dependency on the viewer being logged in or out.
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Re: Supporting a member
« Reply #42 on: July 16, 2011, 07:03:29 AM »
I know you guys are working hard on getting things working, so this is not to complain but just an update.

Last 48 hours seems like the site is super slow.  I get two different message when it times out now.  One that is still looks like the Amiga.org site and says the server times out, the other one that somes times comes up is all white and has the vBulletin logo in the top left and says the database timed out.
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Re: Supporting a member
« Reply #43 on: July 16, 2011, 07:16:21 AM »
I'm getting frequent timeouts as well, but when I'm not everything seems to be proceeding at normal speed.
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Re: Supporting a member
« Reply #44 from previous page: July 16, 2011, 08:57:37 AM »
404 errors on some posts too that I've noticed. :-/
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