Interview with Trevor Dickinson

[ffastback]

Yeah.

For $200,000.00 though Trevor could have bought 1000 of these motherboard/CPU combos for $89 each.  
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5567179&Sku=B69-4062

Given those 1000 boards for FREE to pretty much every member left in the Amiga community when they buy a copy of OS4.  He'd still have $110,000.00 left over just to give to Hyperion.

Hyperion gets $120,000 free + $160,000 in OS4 sales for a total of $280,000.00


But then we'd have 1000 active Amiga users running modern hardware.  Hyperion would then be selling their $160 OS with an $89 dongle instead of a $2000 one.  


No, I think the $200,000.00 is better spent to get Hyperion to waste another year of their time porting the OS to X1000 so 12 people already using OS4 can now run it on 4 year old hardware instead of 8 year old hardware.

And what does A-Eon get out of your imaginary deal here?

And BTW its $245160 USD at current exchange rates.  The article said 200,000 EURO.

I think we all know A-Eon has about a snowball's chance in hell to "break even" on $245160 USD (and counting).  But whats the point about imagining about them giving the money away on purpose?

And why such a slave to the brand?  Run AROS if you want x86.

[ffastback]

I've always longed for native X86 AmigaOS.  AROS is a great step in that direction.  I just wish it had more official support and resources to move quicker on it's development.

If so many Amigans were not slaves to the brand AROS would be much more advanced by now.

[runequester]

Im not sure giving motherboards away that will not run OS4 is really a great idea for Hyperion.

Maybe Microsoft can follow it up by giving people a commodore 64 and hoping they'll buy windows 7 to install on it ?

[ffastback]

It's a massive shame that 200K GBP wasn't spent more wisely.

It is?  First, its 163,708 GBP at current exchange rates, as the article said EURO.

Second what value would there be for you in this if they did spend it more wisely?  If they did you'd have less to make fun of.

[Terminills]

And what does A-Eon get out of your imaginary deal here?

And BTW its $245160 USD at current exchange rates.  The article said 200,000 EURO.

I think we all know A-Eon has about a snowball's chance in hell to "break even" on $245160 USD (and counting).  But whats the point about imagining about them giving the money away on purpose?

And why such a slave to the brand?  Run AROS if you want x86.

He does run Aros.  
http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?start=0&topic_id=4758&viewmode=flat&order=ASC

 What makes you think he's a slave to the brand ... just because he thinks A-eon has a crap business model? ...

1. Throw money at it.
2. ??
3. profit!

[redrumloa]

No one has asked if he has a brother named Bruce?

[ffastback]

 What makes you think he's a slave to the brand ... just because he thinks A-eon has a crap business model? ...

It would rationally explain his fixation.  We can all see A-eon has a crap business model.

[redrumloa]

It would rationally explain his fixation. We can all see A-eon has a crap business model.

Who is "we" in we can all. Personally I think the whole idea is lunacy, but there seems to be some in this community who believe it is sensible including A-EON/Hyperion themselves. Why would a company pursue a "crap business model"?

[koaftder]

community who believe it is sensible including A-EON/Hyperion themselves. Why would a company pursue a "crap business model"?

Incompetence.

[runequester]

everyone is aware that the x1000 is not the only machine being sold that can run OS4, correct?

[AJCopland]

It is?  First, its 163,708 GBP at current exchange rates, as the article said EURO.

Second what value would there be for you in this if they did spend it more wisely?  If they did you'd have less to make fun of.

Just a thought but at £1500 per X1000 they'd only need to sell 110 of them to have made as much as it cost to develop. Now assuming that they're only seeing 10% profit from each machine that's 1,100 X1000's to break even.

I'm not sure that there's enough demand in the Amiga community, and I've pulled many of the numbers from my arse (and i'm very tired) but that 10% profit per machine is probably pessimistic given the £1500-ish price tag.

They may very well break even on just 500 or so machines if the machine itself is profitable.

Andy

[ffastback]

Who is "we" in we can all. Personally I think the whole idea is lunacy, but there seems to be some in this community who believe it is sensible including A-EON/Hyperion themselves. Why would a company pursue a "crap business model"?

I'd equate "we" to most, if not almost all community members.  Its just my humble opinion.  I'd guess that even most interested in buying the machine would see the business model as rather nuts.

Why would a company pursue such?  Trevor is quoted in the article as saying he'd be happy to break even.  To me that says this company is more a vehicle for him to pursue a passion then it is truly a business.  Its his money and I certainly don't fault him for risking it to try to benefit the community.

[koaftder]

@AJCopland
You're assuming that the 200k investment so far includes the actual production costs. They're still working the kinks out, they may not have even done a run yet.

[ffastback]

They may very well break even on just 500 or so machines if the machine itself is profitable.

Andy

Do you really even see a market for 500 machines though?  Personally I think that is a stretch.

[koaftder]

Do you really even see a market for 500 machines though?  Personally I think that is a stretch.

I'm guessing they'll sell 100 tops, probably half that. I've heard a lot of dyed in the wool AOS4 users balking about the price. That's a bad sign.

[jorkany]

Why would a company pursue such?  Trevor is quoted in the article as saying he'd be happy to break even.  To me that says this company is more a vehicle for him to pursue a passion then it is truly a business.  Its his money and I certainly don't fault him for risking it to try to benefit the community.

I'll bite - how does producing a dead-end system like the X1000 benefit the community, and which community are you talking about anyway?