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1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« on: November 10, 2008, 06:42:35 PM »
I've got this 1084s-D1 Commodore Monitor that I bought brand new in 1990 toghether with my A500, and I was wondering if it can be connected to a PC video card to use as a external preview monitor for video editing. Is that possible? For color correcting I think a monitor like this is better than an LCD, and Amigas always were good for video production.

If I build a custom cable will it work?
Besides it work or not, anyone with experience recommend this monitor for this purpose?

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2008, 06:46:11 PM »
It will only work if the PC can output 15KHz screenmodes.
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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2008, 06:52:10 PM »
Use the composite connector or a Svideo cable that has a couple of separate signals into a coupler of some sort. I use the Amiga 1084 with the PC Video Toaster 5.2 all the time.

ALthough they are not real field monitors they do the job quite well and have a higher dot pitch than even modern day crt tv's.
 

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2008, 06:53:36 PM »
I see..., A year ago I build an Arcade Machine that uses an arcade monitor (15khz) with a PC. I remember I've used a little app called Soft15khz to output the signal. So maybe I had to do a similar work on the 1084s.

edit: thanks Crom00, I didn't remember the composite input on the monitor. I'll try that and see how it works.
 

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2008, 07:14:17 PM »
IT WORKS!!!!

Looks pretty good, now I'm gonna calibrate it for better color correction.

BIG THANKS!
 

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2008, 07:30:40 PM »
S-Video is Y/C, so it should be possible to go directly to Y/C.  On the 1084 this would be labeled "Luma / Chroma," where one of those inputs also accepts composite under the obscure term "CVBS."

I had one of the non-S models with, IIRC, a couple DIN connectors and a DB9 just for TTL/CGA; on those I believe you could also input Y/C on one of the DINs depending what cables you had lying around and which 'input' you wanted your source to be on the front switch.
 

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2008, 08:22:01 PM »
Quote

zonaps2 wrote:
IT WORKS!!!!

Looks pretty good, now I'm gonna calibrate it for better color correction.

BIG THANKS!
Ah well, I thought I'd advice using an old EGA ISA card but apparently this'll do :-)
And the canary said: \'chirp\'
 

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2008, 08:44:24 PM »
Thanks for the help as always! Can't believe I'm working with my Commodore monitor again!

thanks.
 

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2008, 09:45:59 PM »
So how did you do it?
 

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2008, 09:55:44 PM »
As Chrom00 said, using the composite video-in instead of VGA, and plug it into the S-video out of the video card on the PC.

Like a TV-out!
 

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2012, 09:56:25 AM »
Hello,
I have an IBM ThinkPad T22 which has a S-Video output port. I was wondering if I could my Commodore 1084s-D1 monitor to this laptop, and if so what type of  S-Video do I need? I know that one end of this  S-Video need to be the standard connector, but I am not sure about the other end that goes to the back of 1084s-D1 monitor.

Any help would be really appreciated!

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/download_photos/10842sd1_2_big.jpg
http://www.ehow.com/how_8020255_use-port-ibm-thinkpad-t22.html
Kind Regards,
CodeHunter
 

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2012, 11:16:57 AM »
Quote from: CodeHunter;674985
Hello,
I have an IBM ThinkPad T22 which has a S-Video output port. I was wondering if I could my Commodore 1084s-D1 monitor to this laptop, and if so what type of  S-Video do I need? I know that one end of this  S-Video need to be the standard connector, but I am not sure about the other end that goes to the back of 1084s-D1 monitor.

Any help would be really appreciated!

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/download_photos/10842sd1_2_big.jpg
http://www.ehow.com/how_8020255_use-port-ibm-thinkpad-t22.html


Yes.  You need an svideo to dual RCA cable.  As mentioned previously by "floid" svideo is a name for Y/C connection "Luma / Chroma". Look up the pinouts for an svideo cable you will find both Y-Luma and C-Chroma marked with an associated ground. The Svideo Y-pin or cable wire goes to the centre pin of an RCA plug.  The Y ground goes to the outer RCA connector.  The same for the chroma connection.
On the 1084 the Luma Plug goes into the Video (yellow) socket on the back of the monitor.  The Chroma plug goes into Chroma (Red) socket.  You will end up with a cable something like this: (Attached. Sorry for the poor drawing)
(Remember these are the pinouts for the plug on your video card / laptop.)

The best way to do this is take an existing svideo cable and chop one end off rewiring it to 2 x RCA as per the schematic.  Works for me.
If you dont know how to solder I think there are RCA plugs that allow you to just crimp the wires in. Otherwise you could use an old RCA audio connector set (Red and white plugs & cable) and cut the heads off one end to do a twisted wire test.  Obviously you need to have a basic electrical understanding to do this. (Disclaimer)
« Last Edit: January 09, 2012, 11:30:35 AM by gertsy »
 

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2012, 05:45:37 PM »
Thanks, too technical for me, I wish there was a 'ready-made' off-the shelf that I could buy!
Kind Regards,
CodeHunter
 

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2012, 05:54:30 PM »
Ack. Y/C aka S-video aka Luma/Chroma is way better than CVBS aka composite (sharper image, crisper colors, no color bleeding/wavy edges).
 

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Re: 1084s Monitor as a preview video monitor on PC. Possible?
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2012, 06:55:15 PM »
In a pinch you can use an S-Video to composite converter. The image quality will be bad, but it'll work - and it's an off-the-shelf part.

I did something similar on my C64: used a standard RCA y-cable to merge the C64's Luma/Chroma signals into a single plug. Functional, but not pretty!