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Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« on: November 30, 2007, 04:08:30 PM »
I just bought one of those flower pot flat screen iMacs off an auction for AU$240/US$200.  It's a 700 MHz G4, has a gig of Ram and a 60 Gig hard drive and a 15 inch flat panel monitor.

My original intention was to put Leopard on it and give it to my son to play with (he's 9) but this thing would make a great Amiga.  I have Leopard running on a Dell box, surely someone has figured out how to run Amiga OS 4 on a old (PPC) Mac?!?!?!
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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2007, 04:14:01 PM »
Leopard doesn't install on 700MHz G4.
 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2007, 04:14:51 PM »
yea, That would pretty much solve everything and make everyone here happy. Official it will probably never happen though.

If someone does it though I would have no problem using it with my store bought copy of OS 4 though until somekind of new harware appeared.

 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2007, 04:21:51 PM »
Clever people have figured out how to run Leopard on non-mac WIntel boxes. It almost runs on my T30, and if I had the time to figure it out...

It could be done for OS 4 and PPC, it would just take time and resources...

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2007, 04:34:18 PM »
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... how to run Amiga OS 4 on a old (PPC) Mac?!?!?!


Why just old PPC Macs? I have a dual G5 here that is not that old (1.5 year?) that I'm installing Amiga Forever on (about the only good use I have ever found for the machine). Rather than add development, the main thing would be to ELIMINATE the JIT code part of UAE, since the OS4 code is all PPC. The only thing that needs to be added is emulation of Cyberstorm or A1 'signatures', and away we go!
   
 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2007, 04:37:06 PM »
Where there's a will there's a way.

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2007, 04:39:01 PM »
If he has Leopard allready he might give it a shot. I once installed the latest version of OS9 on an PowerMac 9600. Apple claimed it could not run on it, but only a little modification to a text file actually made it install and run perfectly.

Apperently the guys at LowEndMac made it happen.
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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2007, 04:40:20 PM »
Could the link be in some sort of powerpc.library solution?
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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2007, 05:21:08 PM »
The flower pot iMacs would make neat Amigas.  You could even paint the base so it looked like half a Boing ball!

They cost less than a much slower ppc card for an existing Amiga and are being dumped right now because hey are too slow.  The have a real screen not one of those old clunker crts.

I really don't have the software knowledge but surely there could be some patch to make Amiga OS4 run on these beauties!
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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2007, 05:26:42 PM »
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I have a dual G5... (about the only good use I have ever found for the machine)


Really!? THAT useless? Please feel free to donate it to me :-D I'll pay shipping and everything and even send you an x86 for your AmigaForever if you want! ;-) Heck and I'll even include a real Amiga!

Cheers!

PS. Amiga OS on a (PPC) Mac would be fantastic! Albeit not likely :(
 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2007, 05:43:16 PM »
IIRC, I read some rumors somewhere (in one of those insanely long threads on amigaworld.net, I believe) that Acube (?) already have managed to get OS4 running on the Mac mini.

Anyone else have any more details about this?
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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2007, 06:35:09 PM »
Correct. It's ACube's Moana project. This has even been submitted as evidence by Amiga Inc in their lawsuit. ACube showed Bill McEwen a screenshot of it running during an IRC chat session. Unfortunately Amiga Inc. wouldn't give them a license, and ACube have had to suspend its development. It's a pity as there are so many more Mac Minis out there than classic PowerPC cards. ACube's SAM440 also doesn't have a license.

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2007, 02:35:24 AM »
Yeah, I was also aware of the Mac Mini ports, but because of the KNUKLEHEADED A. Inc., it's "albeit not likely" :~(

I would *so* love to have Amiga OS 4 on my Mini.

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2007, 02:08:41 PM »
@da9000,


Are you suggesting that you have made some kind of Amiga Inc. voodoo doll?

Good idea! How can I help... :lol:
 

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Re: Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2007, 03:28:14 PM »
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ACube showed Bill McEwen a screenshot of it running during an IRC chat session. Unfortunately Amiga Inc. wouldn't give them a license, and ACube have had to suspend its development.


I have to wonder about this. If OS 4 can be made to run on a Mini, then it's a matter of supplying the proper drivers and, perhaps, overriding a protection scheme... any license needed should be from the purchase of OS 4, so all ACube needs to do is sell it as an "enhancement" to OS 4. I'm just not sure why they need to seek a license beyond formality, and, perhaps, not to incur the wrath of Amiga Inc.

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