Pegasos review thread volume II (The on topic thread)

[Warface]

Targhan wrote:


I would love to have done a review of the Pegasos, but it's difficult to not be biased.

This was the case with my review too. Many things changed since I wrote it, I've discovered new bugs, and new stunning features I didn't dream of before (have u checked what your middle mouse button can make with an ambient window? and when you click it twice?  :-)), yet I think the review is still fair as being only 6 days after receiving my Pegasos.

And for a full depth review I still don't feel myself experienced enough. These days I'm busy watching all the huge movies which my BVPPC/060 was not fast enough for.  :-)

[Warface]

Methinks that an Amithlon is much faster (emulated CPU wise) than the current Pegasos with G3. This depends on the machine/real cpu you use though. But Amithlon will never look like these...

MorphZone's desktop gallery

Mine is in the lower right corner. :-)

[Hooligan_DCS]

@Warface
Which is just the exact same reason why I have been waiting, and will wait till MorphOS gets next update.

No reason to go out spreading false or inaccurate for public because one hasn't gotten even used to the new OS.
I discover new bugs and lack of features almost every day. And the bugs which are not fixed, or simple features not added in next update, I will of course mention in my review.

Doing a review of something one don't know very well reminds me of a boy who is just about to lose his virginity.. just when it gets exciting we find out that the thing has decided to go off ;-)

Excuse for lame metaphoras .. its because of the damn heat!!

[Wilse]

@Wayne:

I am waiting on a check from my employer so that I can buy the memory, video card, etcetera needed to build my machine. Once that's done, I'll start evaluating. I got a chance to tinker with Targhan's Pegasos machine Saturday during a visit and I can honestly say that I cannot wait. I am also buying a new digicam so it should come in especially handy.

Yowzers! I though you were an X86 only man these days and not remotely interested in any new "amiga-like" machine if it was on PPC. Guess I was wrong - sorry.

@Everyone:

It wasn't that long ago that I was convinced I'd never say this but:

I have ordered mine today. :pint:

[filson]

/me being slightly disoriented/

The Peg is currently not able to run AOS but will I be able to run MOS on A1? :-? My supplier has both boards and MOS do look very nice.

[Hooligan_DCS]

In theory, why not. Depends of AmigaOne vs Pegasos2 price I guess.. if MOS will someday run on AmigaOne, and if AmigaOne will be considerebly cheaper than Peg2.

But there are so many if's I wouldn't get my hopes up.

[filson]

hmm.. thx. just have to wait and see, i guess.
how is pc networking with the peg/mos?

[Hooligan_DCS]

I get better transfer speeds from XP -> Pegasos (with NcFTP) than from XP -> XP (FlashFXP). I have 10mb homenetwork and run samba to share drives. Works like a dream with MiamiDX.

I did have problems with internal networkcard and its drivers though, broken in MOS1.3 as has worked on MOS1.2 I heard.

[filson]

And you can do VNC stuff aswell? I saw some pix on http://thendipo.alias.domicile.fr/us/ of a VNC client.
Some of my work can only be done from a x86 (java), so I figured it would be kewl if I could work on the MOS and let the pc handle the pc native stuff.

[Paul_Gadd]

@filson

Hopefully when everyone gets their Pegasos/A1 boards and both OS`s have been out for while, the developers on both sides will do a version for the other board.

Move customers more revenue.

[DaveP]

@Wayne

I am waiting on a check from my employer so that I can buy the memory, video card, etcetera needed to build my machine. Once that's done, I'll start evaluating. I got a chance to tinker with Targhan's Pegasos machine Saturday during a visit and I can honestly say that I cannot wait. I am also buying a new digicam so it should come in especially handy.

Wow so you went to the trouble of laying out for a Pegasos but
didn't order the bits needed to get up and running?

[artman]

@red

Forgive me if someone else has asked this question, but I only have experience with the "Classic" Amiga boxes.  I have no idea what a Pegasos actually is, although I've heard others talk about it.  Could you elaborate?  I'd really like to know.  Is it like an A1, or something totally different?  Would it be something that I could appreciate, as someone who is more at home with soldering and metalworking?  Or is it something more for programming types?  Thanks for any info.

Regards...Art
 :-)

[DaveP]

For all intents and purposes its the same concept as the
A1 except the lord giveth ( e.g. a firewire revision ) and
taketh away ( e.g. a PCI slot ) with two major exceptions.

Exception 1: It doesn't and doesn't seem to have no prospect of
running any official Amiga OS post 3.9. (add) A1 does not yet have a
post 3.9 OS release on it.

Exception 2: The AmigaONE XE and up uses a CPU slot and has available
processors for G3/G4 upgrades which are completely incompatible
with the Pegasos CPU slot which is *promised* to have its
own G4 model Real Soon Now and is probably On Schedule
And Rocking. Frankly I prefer to chuck the whole board away and
upgrade more than just a CPU but horses for courses.

Every other difference is minor. You can emulate AOS3.x
on both - at the moment on A1 through UAE and on Pegasos
the same and also hosted on a "sandbox" on its Amiga A Like
OS "MorphOS".

No doubt this is going to turn into a bitch frag but those
are the major differences for a newcomer who is classic
Amiga savvy and doesn't care about the finer points of motherboard
technology ( e.g. not a trainspotter ).

[Rudei]

@DaveP

I would say that was a pretty much, straightforward way of putting it.

Can`t see any reason for you to get flamed for that.

[Hooligan_DCS]

Yep. Totally unbiased and fair description.

[zacman]

>And you can do VNC stuff aswell?

There is a VNC client available called zvnc:
http://zapek.meanmachine.ch/

It has no display support and is only meant to control
other machines that have an own display.
 
If you need display support there are VNC client and
server software available in Aminet.