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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2008, 11:26:34 AM »
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About that "bounty" -- even if I'd get the adapter, this would not come with an obligation to complete the project. As said above, the task would be rather complex.


I understand/agree. I'm willing to donate 20 euros as well. Just let us know if you want to give it a try.
 

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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2008, 11:50:16 AM »
Seems like there are several variations

Very very cool.

Seems like the tally is
arnljot €20
Darrin €20
HyAmi €20
amigadave $20

So seems to me that the total is €60 + $20. Getting there ;) Now we just need Platon42 to accept :)
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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #16 on: September 03, 2008, 12:21:55 PM »
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by arnljot on 2008/9/3 5:50:16

Seems like the tally is
arnljot €20
Darrin €20
HyAmi €20
amigadave $20

So seems to me that the total is €60 + $20. Getting there ;) Now we just need Platon42 to accept :)


So that's €60 + €13.86 = €73.86

I'll up my contribution to €25 and cover the remainder plus P&P (S&H).
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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2008, 12:42:10 PM »
Chris, if you are interested in developing a class for USB->VGA adapter then gimme a PM.

Several of my closest friends work as hardware designers for DisplayLink I am pretty sure I could get you a developer kit including driver source for linux.
 

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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2008, 12:51:19 PM »
@chris:
im usually not watching tv either (now and then only, in my girlfriends place), but regularly misuse my amigas for kinda multimedia projects where realtime tv and video surveillance is used for input. so i might throw some money into developement of according drivers. i think there are dvbt-cards decoding mpg streams in hardware but i dont know if  they are usb. right now im using elbox voodoo/tv-card combination that lacks dvbt support up till now so an alternative would be nice.  
 

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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2008, 01:20:33 PM »
Most DVB-T PCI cards and (all?) DVB-T USB dongles require MPEG2 software decode. Not really something the Amiga could do well eh?
 

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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2008, 02:07:38 PM »
im just back from an electronic shop, there are a lot pci tv_cards that are advertised as equipped with hardware mpeg2 decoder for a better performance. i didnt not really found something like that among usb dongles but i cant say i really looked close. i already asked elbox fot dvbt support and they said they might do something but im sure it will take if its gonna be achieved at all
 

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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2008, 02:20:56 PM »
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wawrzon wrote:
there are a lot pci tv_cards that are advertised as equipped with hardware mpeg2 decoder for a better performance

I wouldn't say there was "a lot" of DVB-T PCI TV cards in the first place let alone "a lot" with hardware MPEG decoders.

The majority of DVB cards nowadays use software decoders. (Although quite a few have hardware ENCODERS)

Hauppauge (Pronounced Hop-pog) are the biggest seller of TV cards and in 2005 (when I left the TV hardware industry) all but one of their cards used software decoders.

It's just economics. The cards are much cheaper without one and the PC's today are more than capable of software SDTV decode.
 

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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2008, 04:14:04 PM »
We need some sort of classic option.  Software Hut seem to have sold their last "new" Cybervision 64/3D cards and the only Cybervision card I could find on eBay was listed at $266.
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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2008, 04:51:14 PM »
And this is how Amiga environment should ask the developers to do anything. Not just demands, and demand "I want". This is what is called "community effort" :D.

I can pay 100$ for developing a drivers for Spider :-P... anyone more? Maybe for $1000 Elbox will write something?... I'm dreaming.
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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2008, 05:17:47 PM »
The reasons as well that most of them dont put hardware decoders on them is because they will not work in any version of windows media centre.  For them to work they have to pass through the raw stream.
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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2008, 08:31:06 PM »
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amigadave wrote:

I would be interested to read more about your Touchscreen-Car-Computer project.  I have one of my own, but it is just an Intel Mac Mini attached to a 7" Lilliput touchscreen and dual booting Vista and OSX.  It also has a GPS antennae so I can use it for voice command turn-by-turn directions.


It's still in very early state. I've got an EFIKA in a cardboard box "case" with Radeon and a PicoPSU 60W, a 8" TFT touchscreen at 640x480. It's running MorphOS 2.x and the touchscreen can be used as a mouse replacement. The touch screen and the EFIKA are powered via Y-cable from the 12V connector in the car (a nifty Toyota Aygo).

I also received my OBD2 (on board diagnosis) interface construction kit (PCB+components) yesterday that I still need to solder. It will return serial data of the ISO 9141-2 diagnosis port at the weird baudrate of 10400 baud. I still need to dig the protocol, but it will allow reading realtime information such as speed and acceleration. Unfortunately, it seems as if the EFIKA MPC5200B serial driver still needs to be written. Shouldn't be too difficult.

Ah, I need to write a nice, good looking, touch screen compatible GUI for Media Playback (only audio planned) and for diagnosis. I also have a GPS module that can be connected via USB that I might want to make use of, but open and free map material is scarce.

I need more time to finish all of that, but I hope I will some time...
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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2008, 09:10:30 PM »
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wawrzon wrote:
im just back from an electronic shop, there are a lot pci tv_cards that are advertised as equipped with hardware mpeg2 decoder for a better performance. i didnt not really found something like that among usb dongles but i cant say i really looked close.


Sending uncompressed video across an USB link easily exhausts or exceeds the raw bandwidth of 480MBit/sec. A 50Hz true color stream would be at a sustained rate of 260MBit/sec. While this is not a problem for a PCI interface, over USB this is too much.

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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2008, 09:13:27 PM »
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Darrin wrote:
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by arnljot on 2008/9/3 5:50:16

Seems like the tally is
arnljot €20
Darrin €20
HyAmi €20
amigadave $20

So seems to me that the total is €60 + $20. Getting there ;) Now we just need Platon42 to accept :)


So that's €60 + €13.86 = €73.86

I'll up my contribution to €25 and cover the remainder plus P&P (S&H).


Wow. I wouldn't have thought of people comming up with this. If somebody could collect the bucks (I have no PayPal account anymore), buy that thing and send it to me, that would be great. Thanks!
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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2008, 10:21:07 PM »
Hi Platon

I'm always willing to chip in for a project you're working on, because you seem to actually complete your projects, and they work when you do!

I'm good for $40 USD, so just let me know where to send it.  Also, if I or someone else collected it for you, could we then send you a cashier's check which you could cash for Euros?

Finally, slightly OT here, but what are USB options for the forthcoming GBA1000?  Would a Deneb plug into it?

Thanks again for all you do!
 

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Re: USB VIDEO ON THE DENEB?
« Reply #29 from previous page: September 03, 2008, 10:48:08 PM »
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platon42 wrote:

Wow. I wouldn't have thought of people comming up with this. If somebody could collect the bucks (I have no PayPal account anymore), buy that thing and send it to me, that would be great. Thanks!


It's because we trust you and your abilities.  :-)

I'm in the USA, so I'm not a good candidate to do the purchase and sending, but if we have an honest member here in Europe who is willing to do it and who has a Pay Pal account then I'll send him my share of the money if he passes me his details.

How about the guy who runs Versilla?  He does Pay Pal, lives in Germany and is 100% trustworthy?  Does he post here?
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