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Offline Spidey

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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #89 from previous page: September 04, 2003, 11:18:00 AM »
Hi iamaboringperson,

As main-system I've got:

Pegasos with MorphOS1.4 (great upgrade compared with version 1.3 :-))
512 RAM
40 GB HD
ATI Radeon 9000 64 MB
CD-Rewriter
DVD-ROM (DVD-Writer when there's software available for it)

Secondary system (until recently this was my main system):

A1200
Blizzard 040/40 64 MB
CD-Writer
CD-ROM
Various HD's and hardware upgrades :-)

Unfortunately since recently (2 weeks now):

Cyrix 300 MHz
64 MB
Win98
Simple 8 MB GFX-card
No sound

My first PC at home :-(
I use this one for internetbanking because I can't use the normal Amiga browsers to log into the secure site.
Immediately when I can do it with the Peg I'll throw this thing out of the window (and I live on the fourteenth flour :-D)

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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #90 on: September 07, 2003, 09:26:21 AM »
A cyrix 300 Mhz WOW what an antique.. I'd just keep the puppy and install linux in it and use it soley as a firewall..
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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #91 on: September 07, 2003, 09:37:14 AM »
I am being serious, this was during 1994 during the hey day when this came out as being new..  Yes it does draw without acceleration but it's pretty darn slow.

I know for a fact that OpenGL opens a screen buffer using a direct draw style surface. I learned this in Redmond back in 1994 itself.. If you want me to grab the documentation to this stuff provided at multimedia bootcamp 1994 I will gladly go ahead and scan in the documentation and the block diagrams so you can read through it.. I remember someone from the OpenGL team commenting they needed to find a better interface to the graphics cards.

NT 4 Workstation was never designed as a games workstation. Microsoft added Direct X to Windows 2000 (NT 5) to change all that and attempt to reposition that away (to move people away from dos based windows (the last incantation of that being Windows ME).

Microsoft advised against playing games on NT 4 and kept developers away for the longest time. They stuck to open gl cause it was there (but that version was intended to stick NT in the visualization workstation market, not with games.

Quake 3 that you mention is a windows 2000 product that just happens to run, cause 3rd parties went in and wrote drivers that did this, but never because microsoft wanted it, they just wanted a visualization workstation to compete with SGI/Sun..



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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #92 on: September 07, 2003, 10:57:18 AM »
@ DonnyEMU

Ok, you've asked for a history lesson.

DirectX was introduced into NT4 with SP3.  It gives NT4 basic DirectDraw capabilities, so that it could do what average home users take for granted, for example video acceleration when playing movies, taking advantage of technology on graphics cards such as MPEG-2 decoding capabilities.  DirectX on NT4 is equivalent to DX3 on other Windows operating systems.  DirectX cannot be updated on NT4, save vulnerability patches.

1994 was a damn long time ago... and hold on... NT4 was released in 1996!!!

Microsoft may advise a lot of things, but as experience shows regarding technical points on their products, particularly nowadays, they're the last people to ask.

I used NT4 for about four years IIRC.  I played StarCraft, Half-Life, Quake 1/2/3 (in the case of Quake 1, Winquake, downloadable freeware), and a good few other games that only require basic DirectDraw capabilities.  I got as good as, or better framerates than I did in Win98, dualbooted.

If NT4 didn't have DirectX at all, playing DVDs would have been an exercise in CPU saturation!

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Quake 3 that you mention is a windows 2000 product that just happens to run, cause 3rd parties went in and wrote drivers that did this, but never because microsoft wanted it, they just wanted a visualization workstation to compete with SGI/Sun..

Wrong.  There are no OpenGL drivers included in the Q3 install, except for the installation of DirectX, but then 99% of Windows systems have enough DirectX functionality to play Q3.

If you believe drivers are installed, take an installation of Q3 from any Windows [OS] box, and copy it to any other installation of Windows, including NT4.  No installation of anything occurs whatsoever, yet game works flawlessly, provided DX works and half-decent graphics drivers are installed.  I haven't installed Q3 in years, yet I've reinstalled Windows many times over the years.

Quake 2 and 3 make very basic DirectDraw calls.  After that, they're making basic DirectSound calls and OpenGL calls.
 

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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #93 on: September 07, 2003, 01:15:44 PM »
My Main Machine:
AMD Duron 750
192Mb RAM
40Gb Hard Disk
48x24x48x CD Rewriter
24x DVD Drive
GeForce 256 Annihaltor Graphics
Running Windows XP Professional

Although soon I am going to get a nice all black PC with much better specs ;)

My Amiga:
Standard OS 3.1 based desktop A1200 for the odd game hooked up to a Commodore 1084S.

I have an A500 too but it never gets used.
 

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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #94 on: September 07, 2003, 03:34:50 PM »
Big dirty piles of different computers here.  My main machine dual boots WinXP SP1 and Mandrake 9.1.
I also use WinUAE with OS3.9 and Baillisk2 with MacOS 8.1.
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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #95 on: September 18, 2003, 02:56:07 PM »
well, there is much to tell...

first: i'm new here, so hello to all! :)

so here's the list:
*AMD 1700+, 512MB, 40Gig HDD, ABit Siluro GF3 - 128MB
=> current main productive machine (i-net, graphics, games, etc), running W2K and Linux

*AMD 1600+, 1Gig, 40Gig HDD, 2x ASUS GF2 - 32MB
=> dual display/monitor. used for development and graphics

*AMD 900, 128MB, 20Gig HDD, NVidia TNT2 - 32MB
=> my wife's machine - some games, nothing more

*P133, 64MB, 2Gig HDD, CirrusLogic
=> HTTP/SOCKS Proxy, running Linux

*P200, 64MB, 20Gig HDD, CirrusLogic
=> Samba Fileserver, running Linux

*A1200, 030er Blizzard - 16MB, 170MB HDD, 16x CDRom
=> my sweet A1200 - was my first amiga i owned myself, but only a few weeks later i bought an old A500, too.

the servers are housed in a 19" rackmount cage and are connected via KVM-switch to my 1700+ desk. my WAN-router (homeoffice) is located there, too.

...so these are the machines currently placed on the desks in my office and ready to run. the following machines are carefully stored:
*A2000, 3MB
*4x A500 (one A500+)
*3x C64 (the old ones - i don't like the new cases)
*1x C128
*1x C128D metal
*1x Atari 1040STf
*too many spareparts to list here
*some old x86 mainboards incl. cases, etc

well - my wife sometimes hates me for my hobby...but i love these old machines and i would
-never-
sell one (even a piece) of them.
it's always the same: i buy it - i keep it. :)

i need my x86 based machines - so there's sadly not enough space in my office to set up more amigas, fe.

cu,
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-in use: A1200@50Mhz / A2000-030er
-collection: too much to tell. ;)
 

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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #96 on: September 18, 2003, 03:22:07 PM »
At home I have a 6 system network comprised of...

My Main PC ... 1ghz PC, Win 2k, Linux, use it for programming, browsing, some games.

Webserver for my site: 400mhz system

The best PC to evAr be created: Pegasos 600mhz system (programming, browsing, ftp'ing, email, movies, games etc)

My little sons pc: 350mhz pc, games (he's just 5)

Brothers PC: 1.6ghz, games, browsing

Dad's PC:400mhz, browsing, email etc etc.

PowerMac G5 dual 2.0ghz/128meg Radeon/500gb HD/2GB RAM, MorphOS 3.9 registered, user #1900
Powerbook G4 5,6 1.67ghz/2gb RAM, Radeon 9700/250gb hd, MorphOS 3.9 registered #3143
 

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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #97 on: October 17, 2003, 01:27:10 AM »
Dell Latitude P-II 400, 128MB, 20G HD Win 2000 Pro
This is used EVERY day
Amiga 4000 still in Northants, A500 in bits. A1200 used for most Amiga stuff at the mo', and that's pretty much tinkering with the WB
I like Amigas
 

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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #98 on: October 17, 2003, 01:44:55 PM »
Whoa!

I use quite a lot of machines:

1) K6-III/550, 384 MB, 40 GB, Win2K (mainmachine);
2) K6-III/400, 384 MB, 2x 18 GB, Win2k/Linux (testbed);
3) Dual P-Pro 200 512 MB, 9 & 18 GB, Win2K (DC/mailserver/printserver);
4) Dual P-Pro 233, 512 MB, 2x 8 GB, 2x 250 GB, Debian (fileserver);
5) P-Pro 180, 256 MB, 8 GB, Debian (webserver);
6) P-Pro 180, 256 MB, 2 GB, Smoothwall (router);
7) P24T/83, 32 MB, 2x 540 MB, DOS 6.2/WfW3.11 (dosapps);
and 4 others (kids & girlfriend).

 :-P

Lately, I'm more into both my Miggies (1200 & 2000) and my C128D...
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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #99 on: October 17, 2003, 01:45:44 PM »
This should have been a "who doesn't use x86" thread...
 

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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #100 on: October 17, 2003, 02:00:22 PM »
@ that_punk_guy
I think there was a thread that was *kinda* similar before, "who uses their Amiga to post on A.org" or summat.
I like Amigas
 

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Re: Do you use an x86 based machine?
« Reply #101 on: October 17, 2003, 02:13:28 PM »
Ive got a P4 2.53Mhz which i use mainly for its broadband access. Also use an A1200, 6mb RAM
Mike