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« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2003, 06:35:16 PM »
-my Opinon rant on this one-

lets see what BBRV has done for this community in the 2.5 years

made a motherboard

brought it to market

made an OS

brought it to market

given out jobs to many people in a bad  economic  climate   (the adverse bieng if he had taken money and screwed people in a weak economy)

gone to many shows promoting his product

helped developers by not only funding them but by listening to them

brought hardware issues into the limelight not tried to cover up the weakness of the articia chips(in fact replaceing many Pegs that where flawed w/o the hardware fix)... and furthermore tried to protect future buyers by contacting IBM to get their cert taken away so other companies dont have the same folly

I know BBRV's been a bit abbrasive to some at times...but overall he's done more good for this community in 3 years then anyone else has done since commodore...and thats a fact... we've finally gotten a new age solution, a company to support it, and leadership that seems capable of keeping it above water long enough to develop into something worthwhile.



about alans post though...

1: who cares about more articias anyway... the marvel chipset has many more features and is newer... plus it dosent have flaws

2:if IBM is backing up a  buggy chipset they shouldnt put their name on it... I find it hard to believe their angry about it...

3:who cares about OS4 Peggy has MOS and AI seems to be in a dubious situation as is... not something to act on high about e.g 'you offended the great amiga.inc ' as if their possible anger toward genesi matters..

4:Genesi makes their own OS and Boards ... maybe Hyperion is a bit angry...but the best defense to  so-called 'fud' is to prove it wrong and make OS4 into a great OS and bring it out quickly...

I dont have anything against Alan ... he's got his opinons and thats all fine and good...I hope we see 'competition' in this market so I dont really object to the A1/Pegasos competing... but if he had responded with something like 'what you said and wrong and this is why' and proceeded to explain... I would give him alot more credit...as-is he did not outright say 'the chipset is fine, stop telling fibs' ... I think the articia issue hurts us all its not one sided...if indeed it is flawed..

-the above is my personal OPINON not to be mistaken for fact-
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2003, 06:40:38 PM »

>("Wannbe lawyer" ring a bell?)

Was a reaction to Ben trying to call him
a stupid soldier-boy.

> publishes someone's personal details on ANN or

Half a telephone-number and the fact that
Catohagen really is Cato Hagen ?

>calls those giving words of
support to Hyperion "morons".

Well look at the link you gave in your other
post. What do you find ? BB tageting a few
(non-aggresive) words at some people who are
one the "red side", and than makes a remark
about "morons" posting in that thread and
another one. Well duh, there were morons
posting in both threads, but does that
mean he has called all who posted their
morons ?

Seems more like a case of people wanting
to see BB insulting user, and that is what
they see ....

About Alan vs. BB :

What BB wrote, makes sense, is plausible and
he has the right personell to know what is
amd what not.

The comments we heard from Alan and Ben,
make only sense if viewed one by one, but
they don't fit into one picture. Just
reread all the delay-excuses, and outright
BS when they tried to tell what was wrong
with the
Pegasos ("it's the BIOS, oh no it's the SB")

Bill's story does fit in with Terrasoft
leaving the Terons, with Tratech scrapping
the Barbie, with MAI's inability to ship
in quantitie, with MAI still having no sign
of the next generations of ships (Sa/P)
which should allready be in production.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #31 on: May 17, 2003, 06:49:31 PM »
I'm with Alan! I have no respect at all for Mr. Buck and I find it troubling that he has any public support at all.

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #32 on: May 17, 2003, 06:53:55 PM »
ohhh come on... you turned a solution provider that actually 'provides' for this community in some sort of folk monster... BBRV is just trying to develop a market...and thankfully its with an amiga compatible...
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #33 on: May 17, 2003, 07:00:03 PM »
I thought freedom of speech and opinions are alllowed here losers wont allow anything towards pegasos only fud making towards eyetech. :-?
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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #34 on: May 17, 2003, 07:02:53 PM »
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Glaucus wrote:
I'm with Alan! I have no respect at all for Mr. Buck and I find it troubling that he has any public support at all.

  - Mike
¨

Well. to me is quite simple..  Alan as activelly participating that 'in Shedule and Rocking' hoax on summer 2001. Since then he has shown nothing to redeem himself.
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2003, 07:09:25 PM »
@Glaucus

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I'm with Alan! I have no respect at all for Mr. Buck and I find it troubling that he has any public support at all.
 

I agree
I bet they remove these post freedom of speech is not allowed here when it comes to bbrv :-o
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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2003, 07:10:52 PM »
Am I the only person who thinks the community is marginalised enough without the only companies developing amiga-like/compatible HW/OS at each others throats?

There's no proof that Alan actually wrote this. If he did then, OK he's guilty of getting opinionated. Like most of us ;-)
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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2003, 07:18:46 PM »
>Half a telephone-number and the fact that
>Catohagen really is Cato Hagen ?

Hey, leave me out of this :-)

the way I see it, its not the posting of my name
even if i post under my name @ ann, but the
work of first finding out what the yellowpages
are named in Norway, then find/guess the url, search my name, then he have 15 Cato Hagen's
spread all over Norway, then find my ISP's name, find out where they are located and try match
the Cato Hagen who live nearest the address of
the ISP....thats not something you do with a few
mouseclicks in a few minutes.

All that work for what ? scare me ? ok, i provoked him abit :-)


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and no, he didnt post any of my personal info to ann, he posted the regional and 'zip' numbers of my number just to show me that he know where i live or something like that.
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2003, 07:19:10 PM »
@amigamad

Freedom of speech and opinions ARE welcomed here.  Your brazen personal attacks on people with, or without provokation are not.

Please see our Posting Guidelines for further details.
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2003, 07:20:09 PM »
I don't have the money for either one, so this is as unbiased as it gets…I guess.   ;-)

I was wondering who it is that is at fault, then I realized that the issue is somewhat different than is being presented by anyone here. Now I find myself wondering how difficult it must be to run a business—while protecting corporate secrets—in a community that absolutely demands that you air your laundry.

How did we get this way? People try to help us and instead of letting them help we storm the Bastille. Maybe we need to stop blaming BBRV, Bill, Alan, Ben, Fleecy, Ray, Gary, or whomever else, and take a good, long look in the mirror.
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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2003, 07:22:44 PM »
Hey Billsey,

Agreed. Wow, I need a lie down now :-D

-edit-

Especially with you on the 'cant afford one just yet anyway' bit :lol:
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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2003, 07:27:41 PM »
By God's Grace I'll have a testimony out of this. When I do I'll speak in more detail about what I'm going through at the moment. Till then, please pray. :-)
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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2003, 07:29:54 PM »
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Let's hope Mr. Buck has the smarts not to reply in kind, or we'll be back in the sandbox once again.


Probably not. He usually starts this kind of crap.


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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2003, 07:35:57 PM »
@Paul_Gadd

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Looks like a spoof message, if not then Redhouse your a disgrace and people must not buy anymore items from your company.


Bullocks! Then the same thing counts for Bill Buck who has done this crap many more times.
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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #44 from previous page: May 17, 2003, 07:54:00 PM »
More technology!!!

Less intrigue!!!

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