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Alans reply to Bill
« on: May 17, 2003, 03:31:47 PM »
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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2003, 03:56:15 PM »
It's interesting to see Alan coming out (if it really was him) with a blatant personal attack on Bill Buck where Bill Buck's comment was a sequence of events and was in no way a personal attack or "FUD" (I now loathe that stupid term).
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2003, 04:03:26 PM »
Alan does have a point, though. Even by his own accounting of events, Bill seems to use lawyers in much the same way that chess players use pawns. Sometimes it reminds me of my assessment of the “Z Machine”, “It's a little like using an ICBM to crush a snowflake.”
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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2003, 04:07:01 PM »
Looks like a spoof message, if not then Redhouse your a disgrace and people must not buy anymore items from your company.
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2003, 04:12:20 PM »
@Billsey,

Not sure where "lawyers" came into this discussion.  Bill Buck, Alan Redhouse, Bill McEwen all have, and all use lawyers.  This is business.  The loser is usually the one who doesn't correctly use the resources at hand (in this case lawyers).  The day where a handshake and a word is appropriate is over.
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2003, 04:16:57 PM »
It's unfortunate that Alan (if it's him) doesn't answer in the
same format as the original post - i.e. a list of events, only
biased towards his way of seeing things. It clouds the
information he wants to convey. But I suppose his point is
rather clear - according to him, the delays and setbacks Mr.
Buck presented in his list was to a big portion due to his
own rough business practices.
 
As always, just as Bill Buck talking about MAI/Terrasoft et al,
this is Alan talking about another company not his own -
something to remember when weighting the -scarce- info.
 
Alan is usually showing better verbal prowess than this though.
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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2003, 04:18:07 PM »
by Billsey on 2003/5/17 11:03:26

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Alan does have a point, though. Even by his own accounting of events, Bill seems to use lawyers in much the same way that chess players use pawns. Sometimes it reminds me of my assessment of the “Z Machine”, “It's a little like using an ICBM to crush a snowflake.”


Anyone in business who doesn't use lawyers as a business tool is a damn fool in this day in age.  Sad, but true.  

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2003, 04:27:23 PM »
He should have stayed quiet instead of lowering him to the level he did, imo.

Sincerely,

-Kenneth Straarup.
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2003, 04:27:32 PM »
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Wayne wrote:
It's interesting to see Alan coming out (if it really was him) with a blatant personal attack on Bill Buck where Bill Buck's comment was a sequence of events and was in no way a personal attack or "FUD" (I now loathe that stupid term).


This sounds like Allan when he gets angry about something.
Someone has to state the obvious and that someone is me!
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2003, 04:30:16 PM »
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and just how desperate the FUD campaigns against it from you and your followers must have been.


Sigh even Alan is speaking in camps. Don't do it Alan, step away from the keyboard :-x
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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2003, 04:34:26 PM »
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Wayne wrote:
It's interesting to see Alan coming out (if it really was him) with a blatant personal attack on Bill Buck where Bill Buck's comment was a sequence of events and was in no way a personal attack or "FUD" (I now loathe that stupid term).


I'm sorry I don't get this.  When Bill Buck and company is rude, abusive, dives into namecalling ("Wannbe lawyer" ring a bell?) or even posts confidential emails or publishes someone's personal details on ANN or calls those giving words of support to Hyperion "morons".  He is being "blunt", "direct" or just "controversial" or "truthful" and that's OK.

But if Alan Redhouse retailiates then that is unacceptable?  Sure fighting fire with fire isn't the best thing to do, but why is Bill excused in his behaviour, but Alan is not?
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2003, 04:44:49 PM »
Because (apparently) Its different.

Its ALAN commenting..  And as Paul_Gadds post shows...

ALAN AINT ALLOWED TO WIN No matter what he does.

Sorry... (or not)  I'm with Alan on this one !!

Something a wise old man taught me..

If you piss off a "HARD man" when you have your mates with you....

One dark night when your on your own.... You WILL bump into him !! (And woe betide you).  :-o

You were the master of your own downfall !!   :whack:
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2003, 04:49:02 PM »
@uncharted

My only point in this matter (since you quoted me) is that BBRV posted a sequence of events.  Alan Redhouse (if that were him) responded with a blatant personal attack.  

I did not in any way suggest that it was acceptable for EITHER of the two gentlemen involved to publicly attack anyone on a personal level, nor did I defend BBRV's post, which was not under any pretense "offensive or rude".  

In this particular instance, "Alan" (giving him the benefit of doubt as to the authenticity of that post) is clearly in the wrong here and clearly in need of a decaf coffee.

In the end though, both Alan and Bill are both human and prone to get pissed off just like the rest of us (yours truly included).  If it were up to me, I'd slap both on the wrist and send them back to their laboratories sans forum access.  Let their products and community support demonstrate their value, not their words.

Wayne
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2003, 04:52:23 PM »
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redrumloa wrote:

Sigh even Alan is speaking in camps. Don't do it Alan, step away from the keyboard :-x


Camps are there, you can't deny it.  The lines were drawn in the sand a long time ago.

Sad, yes. Pathetic, yes - considering what we're talking about here for the most part is just a hobby. But that is the way things stand.
 

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Re: Alans reply to Bill
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2003, 04:59:38 PM »
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