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Offline Hans_

Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #59 from previous page: August 01, 2016, 01:53:41 AM »
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Additionally mipmapping existed in hardware 15+ years ago. Its far from a modern feature.

Point to this..... nothing really. Just pointing out some errors in previous posts.


Amigakit didn't present mipmapping as some "modern feature." Yes, mipmapping is old, but it's also a fundamental "must have" feature (like stencil buffering). So adding it is another step toward a fully featured system. That's worth a mention.

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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #60 on: August 01, 2016, 04:15:40 AM »
@amigakit.

Yes, Im aware existing Dark Places for OS4 uses old w3d. This is why I said "current build" (talk about futility though,... porting software whos entire reason foe existing is graphical effects on a system that supports none of the enhancements).

Its a good candidate for an update though. Really looks quite nice with all the eye candy enabled.

Was reading some old pc magazines yesterday. Amazing how quickly time flies. Hard to believe first fully programmable pixel shaders appeard in hardware 15 years ago (gf3). Hardware t&l is approaching 20 years.
This w3d overhaul is well overdue. I can only hope MOS follows suite. While reasonable speed wise for an altenative os on obsolete hardware the 3d system there is quite archaic.
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Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #61 on: August 01, 2016, 04:38:52 AM »
In regards to emulation speed, the truth lay somewhere in between what people have suggested so far.
On a high-end, new pc interger performance of emulated system probably eclipses any available "amiga" hadware. FPU performance however is more in line with old phase5 ppc cards.
UAEGFX now also works with os4/ppc, and apparently also supports compositioning. Voodoo3 support is also coming (old h/w, yes, but mentioned for sake of thoroughness).

Given time winuae will surpass any real hardware in pretty much any measurement, exactly as it did when amiga was 68k. Its already a viable option.
And contrary to how it may sound Im not particularly endorsing it to anyone. Nor am I denouncing it. Im simply stating how things are.
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

Offline Rob

Re: Why I want an A-Eon X5000
« Reply #62 on: August 01, 2016, 09:50:03 AM »
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@amigakit.

Yes, Im aware existing Dark Places for OS4 uses old w3d. This is why I said "current build" (talk about futility though,... porting software whos entire reason foe existing is graphical effects on a system that supports none of the enhancements).


It still manages to look different, better lighting etc than the standard Quake.

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This w3d overhaul is well overdue. I can only hope MOS follows suite. While reasonable speed wise for an altenative os on obsolete hardware the 3d system there is quite archaic.


Warp3D is not being overhauled.  Warp3D Nova is an entirely new API written from the ground up.