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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2014, 12:05:53 PM »
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what would be the point in running os4.1 in an emulator ?


Probably for very similar reasons to running any other system/setup in an emulator.
 

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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2014, 12:34:49 PM »
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Probably for very similar reasons to running any other system/setup in an emulator.


the reason to run something in an emulator is primarly a unique software library i guess.
 

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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2014, 02:38:08 PM »
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what would be the point in running os4.1 in an emulator ?

Because it would be fun :)
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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2014, 02:40:17 PM »
Emulation would not make me buy OS4. Cheaper hardware would...
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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2014, 02:41:11 PM »
There are plenty of reasons why one would want to emulate it. For many/most people it is the only affordable way to run OS4. Personally I would at least be able to compile and test the OS4 versions of my software rather than samo79 always having to do it for me.
  In fact frankly it is harder to understand why one would rather spend thousands on custom hardware. Only speed and compatibility. I think the important thing for the survival/success of OS4 is to get lots of people to run OS4. How many semi-generic PPC boxes are sold is less important.
 

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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2014, 02:51:27 PM »
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Because it can run faster with jit than on real available hardware and you may not like to buy expensive hw to try it out.

A win-win for hyperion and users. A loss for hw sellers.

Well, I can see it looking like a loss for hw sellers, but take me; I do follow Classic and NG news. I have invested a few 100 quids into upgrading my Classic setup. From there; the leap to NG is to far for ME personally, so Hyperion is cut off from potential revenue since a unknown % of us are sitting on the fence intrested in buying their OS, but not ready to front the buy-in that consitute the hw platform.

It might be a stretch; but there MIGHT be secondary revenue to be made. More people actually buying software for the emulated OS, which could encourage software developers to keep producing OS4.x versions of their software/games.
More available software COULD down the line actually help Hardware sellers.

Again from MY own point of view; I got more than enough money to buy the X1000 or the future versions cash without straining my bankbalance, but that aside; the OS and usability that I precive is just not good enough at the moment.
Maybe its because im not a developer for example. I read Lyle's posts about how he enjoys working with the OS and hardware. I think I understand where hes coming from and why it makes sense for him.

For people like me (the END user with no artistic or developer bones), while im intrigued, I still wont take the plunge. But buying a OS and paying for software/Games? Hell yes, not a problem.

TLDR; I think PPC emulation will have positive effects overall.
 

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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2014, 06:01:32 PM »
Well... exactly. OS4 is overpriced for what you get. I don't see why it should cost that much. Now if you can run it on an AresOne or AmiQube as well, or just bounded to a AEROS USB-stick for 29$, this would change a lot ; )
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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2014, 08:14:53 PM »
The price of AOS 4 is very similar to windows. Any way I would get me a copy of AOS4 for classic ppc if winUAE could run it.
So count me in for an extra copy of AOS4!
 

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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2014, 09:47:57 PM »
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Emulation would not make me buy OS4. Cheaper hardware would...


Well as we can see from the track record of the people with the brand name this is never going to happen. They blew their chance with Moana. If they had gone the route of the morphos team  there would be alot more os4 users. Possibly
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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2014, 08:54:55 AM »
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If they had gone the route of the morphos team there would be alot more os4 users. Possibly

The Amithlon approach was the best approach, buying an old PowerPC Mac is expensive and you then are stuck with another piece of hardware.
 

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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2014, 09:34:10 AM »
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The Amithlon approach was the best approach, buying an old PowerPC Mac is expensive and you then are stuck with another piece of hardware.


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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2014, 11:46:51 AM »
+1
I would not use it enough to justify spending more than $200
I don't expect it to be sold at $29 though, they would not make a profit at that price.
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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2014, 12:43:17 PM »
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ummmmmmmmm no it isn't

They are going for over £40 here for a g5 powermac, double that for a g4 MacBook. I haven't checked these are supported by morphos because I'd need to find somewhere to put it and it's already too expensive to then add the cost of morphos on the top.
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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2014, 01:24:17 PM »
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They are going for over £40 here for a g5 powermac, double that for a g4 MacBook. I haven't checked these are supported by morphos because I'd need to find somewhere to put it and it's already too expensive to then add the cost of morphos on the top.


I dont think £40 is much money although I would not buy G5. PowerBooks are quite expensive yes considering you may have to buy new battery on top of that.

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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2014, 02:01:48 PM »
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The price of AOS 4 is very similar to windows. Any way I would get me a copy of AOS4 for classic ppc if winUAE could run it.
So count me in for an extra copy of AOS4!
same here. for me the price alone is worth the ability to run digital universe and codebench on my laptop. i don't have a lot of confidence that one day AOS4 will run in UAE -- but if it does, awesome! :)

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Re: Toni Wilen adding PPC emulation in WinUAE?
« Reply #29 from previous page: August 03, 2014, 06:37:46 PM »
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same here. for me the price alone is worth the ability to run digital universe and codebench on my laptop. i don't have a lot of confidence that one day AOS4 will run in UAE -- but if it does, awesome! :)

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Heck i would be happy using os3.9 to just to see what PPC is like on it :)
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