New Amiga will be a real classic by time it comes complete

[artman]

@MarkTime

 Maybe...and I say maybe with a very large pinch of salt over one shoulder, the veiled references to Atari you see every one in a while, stems from the supposed lineage of the original Amiga  bloodline.  Seems to me it was a lot closer to the Atari line of computers than to anything else.  Don't know if some of the original developers had once worked for Atari or whatever, who knows? :-?

[MarkTime]

@artman

I see.

well the one thing of interest in the atari scene...at least to me, is ARAnyM, which is the unfortunately named 'Atari Running on Any Machine'

Dang Amiga Anywhere at least sounds palatable...

but don't dismiss aranym (aranym.sourceforge.net) based on its name.  And by the way, this is Amiga related, in that ARAnym could easily be ported to the new amiga's, in fact it would be trivial to port it to them now since they run Linux...

It is similar to AROS....its a re-implementation of the OS..in this case a GEM/TOS machine...and it has a jit...and similar to Amithlon, in there is a stand-alone version based on linux called AFROS  Aranym FRee OS.

This thing runs most Atari programs, even emulates part of the hardware, though it is not meant to be a machine emulator...but it emulates enough to have a high compatibility rate...

You can buy a cheap PC, and run AFROS and you truly do have a modern Atari...blows away any of the 060 Ataris (Hades/Medusa), or the 040 (Milan) or real Atari 030's (Falcon/TT).

It uses the Falcon ROM's but hey...Atari gave up on them long ago...maybe thats a blessing?

Well if I was an Atari fan, I could be playing DivX4 movies and burning MP3's on my superfast, lowcost machine.

All-in-all I still like the theoretical amiga approach better...except all this commercial help isn't delivering solutions....in the absence of Atari, the open source community has been able to advance in the Atari scene.

can an OS can make a re-emergence after its banishment to obscurity, well the Atari fans are about to find out.....

[KingTutt]

MarkTime wrote:
@artman

I see.

well the one thing of interest in the atari scene... at least to me, is ARAnyM, which is the unfortunately named 'Atari Running on Any Machine'can an OS can make a re-emergence after its banishment to obscurity, well the Atari fans are about to find out.....

Dude check this out[/url] if your interested in the resiliant Atari scene. Maybe we'll be surprised by this darkhorse if Amiga inc don't pull their socks up soon. lol!

[Bodie]

KingTutt wrote:

Dude check this out[/url] if your interested in the resiliant Atari scene. Maybe we'll be surprised by this darkhorse if Amiga inc don't pull their socks up soon. lol!

Milan :-D

Not a bad little system  :-) .

[Elwood]

@WarPiper
Why some people still see a link between Amiga Inc and OS4 ? Please remember AmigaOS4 is being developed by Hyperion Entertainment...
So AI won't give any release date for OS4.

[WarPiper]

@Elwood

Correct, Amiga Inc. is not developing the OS, and right yea yea, they are not making the motherboard, heck they really are not doing anything at all except sitting back and trying to look important, and making companies pay for the use of OS4 with new motherboard just because it has the Amiga Workbench name in it (this is the way the picture looks to me) if you were to ask me I think that hyperion should rename OS4 to something else, totally excluding Amiga, get in ca-hoots with all the companies that want to make OS4 the operating system for their boards.  

OK OK alot of what I said right now may go against alot of what may have been promised, but I really dont know what Amiga Inc.s part is in this whole deal, I mean really, what they hell are they doing except making software for palm devices, they pushed their stupid palm games and programs on zdtv, tech tv yadda yadda, hell they are even talking with microsoft,  but not once have I seen them talk and push the new AmigaOne motherboards and OS
on zdtv or tech tv or anything, its like they want to keep it on the Down-low.

[WarPiper]

hehehe, I just had to make my 200th post!

[Leo42]

>Why some people still see a link between Amiga Inc and OS4 ? Please remember AmigaOS4 is being developed by Hyperion Entertainment...
>So AI won't give any release date for OS4.

They already gave a "launch" date... CeBIT 2003 wich will obviously be missed...

[JurassicCamper]

Leo42 wrote:
>Why some people still see a link between Amiga Inc and OS4 ? Please remember AmigaOS4 is being developed by Hyperion Entertainment...
>So AI won't give any release date for OS4.

They already gave a "launch" date... CeBIT 2003 wich will obviously be missed...

6 days to go ...

4 Working days...

I can imagine it now.

Amiga pull up out side in a Stolen White Escort VAN
Put up a decorators pasteing table, Boot the A1 with yellowdog or debian, off the generator that was in the back of the van, with UAE and a some 68K OS4 (Working :-D ) modules ., Meanwhile bill McEwan takes a few photos of the exhibition hall in the back ground and stick them in the next CAM magazine as the official Amiga Launch. While Bill is taking the photos, Bills helper monkeys are quickly bundling the A1 back in van and drive off before the police arrest them for street trading with out a licence and having a stolen van.

What a launch they sing in the cells.

 :-P  :-P  :-P

Just a reminder better book your flights
Easyjet has come good offers on at the moment

The first of these shows will be the official launch of the AmigaOne and AmigaOS4.0, to occur at the CeBit show in Germany in March (and before anyone asks, this does not mean this is the release date for AmigaOS4.0, it means that CeBit will be the public launch of it). With the huge exposure and attendence that CeBit brings in, and being in Germany, one of the spiritual homes of the Amiga, we think this an appropriate and exciting venue.

[vortexau]

-(duplicate)-

[vortexau]

Comparing that Coldfire-Atari with our own AmigaOne...........

here
(near the bottom)

Thomas: Some furore was caused by the likely price of around €1,000 just for the motherboard of the new computer. Various people pointed to the fact that the AmigaOne G3, say, should only cost a bare €600. What can one say fairly about the pricing?

Oliver: Certainly we could have also quoted a price around €600 - but what good is an unrealistic estimate of the costs to us? In the worst case the ColdFire project would have died with the appearance of the computer, as we all would have gone broke. To properly understand the price of around €1,000, it is imperative to know the extremely problematic market situation of our platform. The market is simply too small for mass production of such a computer. As a first step our only goal is to supply the existing users and to bring the system to current levels, and only then can we start to open up new markets outside the Atari world and enthuse new users for our system.

So, people in the Amiga sphere were upset at the A1 motherboard price-point when those Atari-Coldfire people will have to deal with a much higher price? Those Atari-folk make the price-screamers here look like real nit-pickers!

Thomas: Is the delivery of a bare board planned, so users and  dealers can assemble their own system, or is a complete system including drives, mouse, keyboard and so on being planned?

Oliver: Though a complete system is not our main aim at the present state of development, we are certain that we will also offer such a computer. For this we will naturally also turn to the many suggestions of Atari users in various forums, who have written some very constructive and noteworthy ideas about this theme. So I am also completely convinced of the importance of a complete variant, which also has to have a certain Atari-typical appearance - in other words a striking housing which has to distinguish itself from run-of-the-mill PC-ware. However before we all rack our brains about such a solution the computer first has to be brought onto the correct path and a lot of work needs to be done.

This Oliver seems convinced of RETAINING a historical continunity in outer "housing" appearance in this Atari-Coldfire project!!!

Amiga Inc. employees (at least myself and our Dev Lead for 2D and general Graphics) are here

so HMetal you work for Amiga.inc ?... maybe you can explain the things your CEO said to extremetech or the T-shirt situation? or the apperantly closed offices/etc ?... is Amiga.inc moving offices to the UK as some have asked?...whats going ont here... from the outside things look bleak and I think thats why so many in the community are skeptical.

[z36ra]

I'm kinda funky about what the new marketing strat. Is the new market the old amiga users or a new one aimed at PC users? That's the question that should be asked. I have another question and it just crossed my mind. Is amiga trying for bigger "more dollar" paying markets. Some examples of "more dollar" may include the following:
Military/Government
Music Industry
TV/Film Industry
Hosting Services (thats an iffy)
There must be few more.

I guess my point is that there is money to be made. If you can get people to use your product then it's gotta be a good one. If nobody uses it then it aint that good or someone beat ya to the punch like the Betamax. If you can get some really rich guys to use your product then you have done good, like SGI and Sparc. Don't ask me where that leaves Amiga.