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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: QuikSanz on September 29, 2015, 03:15:17 AM
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Thinking about an up-scaler for the games machine. What is the video output of ECS after it goes thru a SD/FF?
Thanks in advance.
Chris
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What is the video output of ECS after it goes thru a SD/FF?
It's whatever the output of the SD/FF is. :crazy:
Typically 31KHz.
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Thinking about an up-scaler for the games machine. What is the video output of ECS after it goes thru a SD/FF?
A scan doubler is an upscaler, are you planning on using two?
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Was thinking of a VGA to HDMI upscaler but they look to only work at 50/60 Hz.
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How about this one? It seems to include the right kind of audio connectors to work with an Amiga, includes a power supply, and appears to be fairly well reviewed. All for the princely sum of under $20 bucks. ;)
If I had a TV that only had HDMI input (not VGA) I might try it.
http://www.amazon.com/HDE-Audio-output-Adapter-Converter/dp/B009L4X3ZA/
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One of the ones I was looking at but if you dig into the specs most of them will only go down to 480x640@60Hz input.
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One of the ones I was looking at but if you dig into the specs most of them will only go down to 480x640@60Hz input.
I don't buy it. The first review says "Works perfect for Dreamcast", and I doubt Dreamcast is putting out a 640x480 resolution signal. I think they list that only because no "modern" computer outputs lower than that, these days. I'd bet 99% that this would work fine with 320x200 or whatever Amiga resolution, only issue might be with 50Hz PAL.
Edit: I stand corrected; Wikipedia says Dreamcast does in fact put out 640x480. But I bet this type of device would still work fine with an Amiga. ;)
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So does a floppy booted game have a better than 30Hz output on lets say a spectrum, Cybervision64 3d w/sd/ff or a Pic4?
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I don't even understand this question. You started out by asking about Amiga output when run through a SD/FF. If you're running native Amiga video output through a SD/FF, for example an Indivision ECS, it's going to output all modes at 31KHz. Different SD/FF's may offer different capabilities.
If you instead hook up a graphics card like a CV64, PIV, etc., you're going to get the benefits of whatever graphics mode you use, which is completely variable depending on the modes and capabilities of that particular graphics card.
A floppy-booted game is not going to take advantage of any of the capabilities of a graphics card. So if you want to promote a game to run on a display device that doesn't sync to native 15KHz Amiga output, you're going to need to use a SD/FF (i.e., Indivision, GBS-8220, DCE ScanMagic, AGA-2000, A2320, etc.).
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I don't even understand this question. You started out by asking about Amiga output when run through a SD/FF. If you're running native Amiga video output through a SD/FF, for example an Indivision ECS, it's going to output all modes at 31KHz. Different SD/FF's may offer different capabilities.
If you instead hook up a graphics card like a CV64, PIV, etc., you're going to get the benefits of whatever graphics mode you use, which is completely variable depending on the modes and capabilities of that particular graphics card.
A floppy-booted game is not going to take advantage of any of the capabilities of a graphics card. So if you want to promote a game to run on a display device that doesn't sync to native 15KHz Amiga output, you're going to need to use a SD/FF (i.e., Indivision, GBS-8220, DCE ScanMagic, AGA-2000, A2320, etc.).
I do have those graphics cards and the all display ECS games on boot from disk. My question is will they be compatible with any upscaler?
Chris
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(http://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg)
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I do have those graphics cards and the all display ECS games on boot from disk. My question is will they be compatible with any upscaler?
Chris
Huh? I don't understand the question at all... What does a graphics card have to do with ECS or a SD/FF?
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So if I understood you need something to do 15Khz->HDMI resolution
of choice solution so you can play old games in new high resolutions ?
Some (most) new TVs do a job very nice but some not so much.They take
care of interlace too.I'm sure there is a gadget that inputs Amiga PAL or
NTSC signal and outputs TFT resolutions but quality of picture may not
be so good.
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One of the ones I was looking at but if you dig into the specs most of them will only go down to 480x640@60Hz input.
Starting from scratch I would get an Amiga 23 pin video & stereo RCA jacks to RGB SCART cable and a RGB SCART to HDMI upscaler.
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That may be the way to go, Some have RGB RCA inputs!
I asume no FF/SD would be needed at that point.
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What is the chance of running an add in video card to a vga monitor and hooking the 23 pin RGB connection to an external sd/ff and using two monitors at the same time?
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and using two monitors at the same time?
There's plenty of ways of hooking multiple monitors up to an Amiga at the same time, but without software & driver support (to send different signals to each screen) it's pretty pointless. I know Jens was working on a way a couple years ago, but I think he got sidetracked. :(
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There's plenty of ways of hooking multiple monitors up to an Amiga at the same time, but without software & driver support (to send different signals to each screen) it's pretty pointless. I know Jens was working on a way a couple years ago, but I think he got sidetracked. :(
Not sure how doable that is without some fast FPGA,s. Simply won't keep up without.
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I used to have three monitors on my A3000 - one hooked to CVPPC, one to CV64 and one to Amber, various "desktop" software and Workbench on the graphics cards, and a Terminal program on the native video out - it all worked perfectly well. It even worked with Shapeshifter that also supports dual monitor setups.
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That may be the way to go, Some have RGB RCA inputs!
I asume no FF/SD would be needed at that point.
A SCART to HDMI converter should be able to take audio from the scart cable. The Amiga to SCART should have audio as well. To me it would seem logical to go with the simplest option.
You wouldn't need a FF/SD if you went for this. If you wanted to be able to use dblscan from workbench then you might have to find a SCART to HDMI that will do that. However if you just want to play games then that won't ever affect you. A graphics card will also not help you with games as they are an additional output (unless they also have an optional or built in flicker fixer that merges the amiga video in to the graphics card output). If you want a graphics card then get one, if you just want to play games that boot from floppy then it's a waste of money.
By mentioning graphics cards it sounds like you have an A2000, which is also a bit of a waste if you're just going to be playing floppy based games. An A500 is probably better (or an A500+ configured to allow the trapdoor to be mapped to c00000).