Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology

[nicholas]

No, the developer documentation (http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/DeveloperDoc:Main) covers everything there has ever been.

The text is based upon the 3rd edition RKM manuscripts which yours truly converted to LaTeX2e format more than ten years ago. The illustrations were coverted from the original files, and re-created where these were missing. Everything was reworked and revised by Steven Solie and numerous developers over the years.

It is basically a much nicer version of the RKM text which is found on the Amiga Developer CD 2.1, which was converted from the AmigaGuide version of the 1992 RKM text.

Some "bug fixes" are included in this developer documentation, too. Which reminds me that I never got around to fix the "audio.device" documention. The text consistently gets the stereo channel allocation bit definitions wrong.

Any chance of a new set of RKM's being published? Even a print on demand edition from somewhere like lulu,com would be nice.

[Acill]

I've said it time and time again, we all need to work together and build up the platforms doing things like this. Its the best thing that has happened to Amiga in a long time. Getting all sides together in one place and still allowing each flavor to still have its own look and feel, but still having software benefits from the others in win win.

I'd be honored to do anything I can if its within my means, both for Amiga and MorphOS.

[SACC-guy]

Any chance of a new set of RKM's being published? Even a print on demand edition from somewhere like lulu,com would be nice.

Already done! Just look at the wiki site...bottom left for printing options!
At the AmiWest2015 Devcon, one attendee brought his printed rkm to show and tell.

[ssolie]

It is basically a much nicer version of the RKM text which is found on the Amiga Developer CD 2.1, which was converted from the AmigaGuide version of the 1992 RKM text...

The wiki also incorporates all the old Commodore DevCon material as well as all the Amiga Mail articles. There isn't much that hasn't been merged in.

[Kernel]

So barring me digging into the wiki pages, what packages are available still for developing on OS3.x?  I might just be willing to dip my toes into the water...

[Iggy]

The wiki also incorporates all the old Commodore DevCon material as well as all the Amiga Mail articles. There isn't much that hasn't been merged in.

So Steve,
Is this an A-eon or Hyperion initiative?

[eliyahu]

Is this an A-eon or Hyperion initiative?

hyperion.

-- eliyahu

[kolla]

You have to remember we attended many shows around the world and have met many developers prior to this face to face discussing many details.

For example, I met Acill personally at Amiwest and after talking with him would be happy to work with him on projects.

Amiga shows do not count, that goes as preaching to the choir. Most amiga developers I ever met under one roof was at FOSDEM - Free Open Source Developers European Meeting - in Brussels (https://fosdem.org) none of them involved in Amiga these days.

[kolla]

I sincerely believe A-Eon wants to encourage Amiga development albeit with a focus on AmigaOS 4 and PPC. They need to convert more 68k Amiga users and developers to expand their user and developer base. I doubt that the AmigaNG is competitive enough to attract many outside users and developers.

It is not a matter of competition, it is a matter of being attractive.

Please... stop pretending that Amiga is a "market" and that Apple and Microsoft etc are "competition", it only makes you look delusional.

[kolla]

They are going to manufacture sound cards.

No, it is a decoder card, akin to MAS-player, not a sound card.

And maybe they don't want to undercut their OS4 market.

What market? Hardware to OS3.x does not in any way, shape or form, compete with OS4. The issue is more that a Minimig+ would require someone willing to develop the FPGA code for it, and I can not think of anyone who would want to do that exclusively for them. The best a Minimig+ could hope be today, would be a MIST clone. But we already got MIST.

Further, if Jens has most of the supplies of OEM chips, CLPD or FPGA based parts would have to be substituted (not that that couldn't offer some room for improvement.

?? OEM chip?? Jens has most of the supplies of the AGA chips, these are not at all needed to create new motherboards based on FPGA.

Finally, A-cube announced a new version of the MiniMig awhile ago, and while that has still not surfaced, does A-eon want to tread on Acube's market?

What? It was A-EON who announced the Minimig+ with A-cube as a partner. But neither of them have developers to actually develop Minimig FPGA core for such a board, all they can do is to develop a board for which there already exists some rudimentary support, and hope it attracts developers. That is how it works, and it does not fit "business plans" of these companies.

[Alloye]

So yeah, they need more OS developers. But who is willing to work under a strict NDA for almost no money? Close to nobody.

Close to nobody, perhaps. But I, for one, have reached out and offered to help under precisely those conditions. The Amiga was once very special to me, and I think it would be cool to work on the OS now that I have 20 years of experience developing for mainstream commercial platforms. It wouldn't be about money or glory. Just fun!

[gregthecanuck]

Close to nobody, perhaps. But I, for one, have reached out and offered to help under precisely those conditions. The Amiga was once very special to me, and I think it would be cool to work on the OS now that I have 20 years of experience developing for mainstream commercial platforms. It wouldn't be about money or glory. Just fun!

Hats off to you sir!

After reading 5 negative opinions in a row from Kolla it is nice to see someone thinking of taking action and doing something positive.

There has been an insane amount of work done setting up the wiki with all the developer documentation. It would be nice to see some of that good work being leveraged. By whatever camp.

Cheers!

[TrevorDick]

Not wanting to create even further confusion but....

The call for developers covers all Amiga flavours. The wiki referred to in the A-EON news release is the A-EON specific developer wiki not the excellent AmigaOS 4 wiki.  The A-EON wiki is for developers working our specific 68k and PowerPC applications.

TrevorD

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

After reading 5 negative opinions in a row from Kolla it is nice to see someone thinking of taking action and doing something positive.

:hammer:

[ciVic]

I also like the idea, however, you are welcome to write an email to the presented address but you will never get an answer. I tried it two times now, the first try was 3 weeks ago. They could at least tell me that they don't want me to join.

[kamelito]

Not wanting to create even further confusion but....

The call for developers covers all Amiga flavours. The wiki referred to in the A-EON news release is the A-EON specific developer wiki not the excellent AmigaOS 4 wiki.  The A-EON wiki is for developers working our specific 68k and PowerPC applications.

TrevorD

When you write "The A-EON wiki is for developers working our specific 68k and PowerPC applications." does it means that developers who are working on their own apps published in in your store won't have access to the wiki?

Kamelito