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AuthorTopic: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5  (Read 16474 times)

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Offline XDelusion

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2012, 09:26:05 PM »
Quote from: haywirepc;713527
YAY. I'm so glad they will do g5 support. I will definitely register morphos if/when the g5 support is working.

g5 will definitely benchmark much faster than amigaone x1000...

Steven:roflmao:



 I don't understand the importance of bench marks between next gen Amiga OS's at this point when there are no killer apps available that depend upon machines with such high resources.
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Offline commodorejohn

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2012, 09:39:45 PM »
Quote from: haywirepc;713527
g5 will definitely benchmark much faster than amigaone x1000...
We'll have to see on that one. 2.5GHz vs. 1.8GHz is a fair difference, but the x1000 does have a DDR2-1067 FSB as opposed to the G5's DDR400.
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Offline Iggy

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2012, 10:46:07 PM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;713532
We'll have to see on that one. 2.5GHz vs. 1.8GHz is a fair difference, but the x1000 does have a DDR2-1067 FSB as opposed to the G5's DDR400.

I don't think memory bandwidth is going to be enough to give the X1000 an edge.
Currently, when compared to Power mac G4s with 1.8 to 2.0 GHz processors the PA6T does not outperform Freescales older CPUs.
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Offline Iggy

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2012, 10:48:41 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;713529
I don't understand the importance of bench marks between next gen Amiga OS's at this point when there are no killer apps available that depend upon machines with such high resources.

Well X, now I will be able to play back 1080p video. Before I was limited to 720p.
And there's always a use for more power.
What we'll need next are better video cards.
But then, we should have R300 3D drivers soon, and we may even get support for more powerful cards then that.
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Offline haywirepc

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2012, 11:24:03 PM »
x1000 is not outperforming g4 processors... So I doubt g5 won't or can not beat it in benchmarks, we'll see I suppose but it dosn't look good for the 3,000$ x1000 verses a 100$ ebay g5 power mac.... That is quite a huge difference in price as far as performance.

Besides, I just think MorphOS is more highly developed than AOS4, so especially for the money I think its a much more attractive ng option, and I'll definitely be buying/builing a g5 system for morphos as soon as it becomes sure that g5 will be supported.

registered morphos and a nice g5 powermac will be like 250-300$ - sure beats 3,0000$ for a system where the drivers still are not done...

Oh and I'm pretty sure if processor speed was no longer an issue, we'd get some apps that could use the extra horsepower. Thats such a bull**** argument...
In any computer, faster and more resources is ALWAYS better.

Steven
« Last Edit: November 01, 2012, 11:28:31 PM by haywirepc »
 

Offline Iggy

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2012, 12:21:38 AM »
I'd quote what you said Steven, but since I agree with you 100% its kind of pointless.
I do think  this will help with MorphOS registrations.
Laptops and now power towers.

I don't know that this will hurt A-eon, as they sell new/powerful equipment.
In fact, if they sold an system similar to the X1000 for MorphOS, I'd still consider spending the extra money.
But, why would you buy an Acube board now?
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Offline haywirepc

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2012, 02:36:42 AM »
I think it was a brilliant move porting to mac hardware because they are so common, so cheap and you get the added benefit of it running osx, something no acube hardware however crazy expensive can not do.

I have never been a mac fan but the powerpc hw is  now cheap and nice. I suppose having spent so many years running linux, osx never excited me much. Seemed to me to be a bit nicer linux...

I have watched AOS and the hw available, I just can't justify spending so much money for such outdated old tech. a 50$ or 100$ mac is faster, and can also run osx, which is not a huge extra, but to me, having never owned an osx computer, it IS a plus...

I've been saying for awhile if they support g5 I will finally get a good g5 (maybe quad core for use with osx/final cut power pc) and finally register morphOS. Hope the bounty fills fast and they are correct in the timeframe to port to g5... That would be AWESOME. I will contribute to the bounty I suppose...
 

Offline Matt_H

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2012, 02:37:46 AM »
I think the horsepower of the G5s is less important than the fact that this will open another new avenue for people who want to try MorphOS. It's getting easier and easier to track down a compatible machine.
 

Offline commodorejohn

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2012, 03:33:10 AM »
Quote from: Matt_H;713565
It's getting easier and easier to track down a compatible machine.
Now if only they'd suppport TiBooks...
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Offline zylesea

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2012, 09:17:32 AM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;713570
Now if only they'd suppport TiBooks...

ibook support as well as support for more Powerbooks is under way, since the ADB is no more a prob for the MorphOS Team.

Offline yakumo9275

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #25 on: November 02, 2012, 12:50:48 PM »
aah sweet. I have a goal machine sitting here under my desk. paid $200 for it.

shame mos wont be able to use the 3gb ram I have in it. I REALLY hope it idles the 2nd cpu into a low power state so its not running full speed doing nothing but getting hot.
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Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #26 on: November 02, 2012, 12:53:13 PM »
Quote from: yakumo9275;713597
I REALLY hope it idles the 2nd cpu into a low power state so its not running full speed doing nothing but getting hot.


Doesn't it do that already on dual-CPU PowerMac G4's?
MorphOS is Amiga done right! :)
 

Offline Iggy

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #27 on: November 02, 2012, 02:26:13 PM »
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;713598
Doesn't it do that already on dual-CPU PowerMac G4's?

I'm not sure about that. The interior of my 1.42 FW800 is getting pretty warm.
Since I'm using an R300 based video card (yet another heat generator), I'm planning on switching a single over clocked 1.25 CPU.

And I'm going to see if a G5 will run with only one CPU installed.
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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2012, 02:53:38 PM »
Not all G4s support idling, AFAIK everything QuickSilver or older completly lacks such features (and the fans aren't SW-controllable either). Not sure bout MDD/FW800s.

But don't dispair, that feature runs quite well on Minis,PowerBooks and iBooks where the only CPU is throttled down to keep the fans quieter when idling. So at worst we would have the 2nd G5 tucking along at 10% of it's max speed where it wouldn't do much damage....
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
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Offline pampers

Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2012, 04:01:24 PM »
Quote from: commodorejohn;713570
Now if only they'd suppport TiBooks...

Here you go sir ;) http://www.geit.de/eng_newsarchive.html