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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2010, 04:26:31 AM »
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What else does UAE need feature wise?
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2010, 04:59:34 AM »
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Anyway, I can't help but wonder how fast UAE would be on a 6 core rig. If 5 people use their X1000 money for a multicore UAE bounty thats over 10k. Seems like a better use of the money.


I don't think that would work with the latency issues between the cores.  Atleast that is the reason I'm hearing the maintainer for WinUAE won't consider doing the project.  YMMV
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2010, 05:11:59 AM »
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What else does UAE need feature wise?


Speaking as an end user, I'd say better documentation (e-uae variants, linux, et al).  Easier setting of screen refresh rates (too many "mode not supported" when going fullscreen).  I'd like to see one product across all platforms (ie winUAE for all, under one banner).
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2010, 05:13:54 AM »
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Pumping money? Do you have any idea how much it costs to produce such hardware on such small scale??


It doesn't cost anywhere near what they are charging.
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #33 on: June 20, 2010, 05:42:00 AM »
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Frankly if it was 5000 dollars, some of you will pay. Some people are stupid enough to spend 60k dollars on a pair of speakers.

<2000 quid is a snip.

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #34 on: June 20, 2010, 05:48:35 AM »
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That's crazy..  Unless...

Did they use Monster Cables?  Those are worth the $2000 right there!!!
Monster Cables for my X1000!!   Yeay!!!
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Ok, that's too much for me, but I'm not the target audience...

Also, I doubt it's worse for Piru than he initially thought..  ;-)

But I do agree..  There are people who spend well over a thousand USD on a decked out SAM Amiga system, so I'd think they might be interested in this at twice the price.  It wasn't that long ago that people routinely spent that much on a computer.

And, this is also aimed at the "early adopter" market.  Those people will pay almost anything..  :hammer:

However, to be successful, you need enough of these "early adopters" so a second run might be cost effective.  With the competition on the low end (real old Amigas and minimigs, etc), I don't see them competing there.
OR..  You need enough of these early adopters/hardcore fans with disposable income and you keep the price high...

I don't see either happening..
Then again, I didn't think people would pay for shareware in the stores and know someone who made a lot of money doing that..  So, who knows..

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #35 on: June 20, 2010, 07:53:57 AM »
Homeless Vets and Amputees. There's a small following the midget circle, but their primary focus is on the before mentioned demographic.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #36 on: June 20, 2010, 08:22:14 AM »
Personally i don't plan to buy the X1000. I think that my μΑ1 and PPC A1200 suit my amiga needs for now BUT guys i don't think that being ironic towards AEON is right. They do what they think right, they promised new hardware and it seems that they are gonna make it until the end. Producing a complete amiga system nowadays seems like an insane decision from a business point of view. It couldn't cost less i'm afraid so why don't we wait until the complete system is finally for sale and see what we'll get and for how much. It won't be cheap, sure, but how could it be? A more compact system would be nice but i insist that even the X1000 as is, will be a rather good start for new systems to come for all the tastes and potentially for different price range.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #37 on: June 20, 2010, 09:32:12 AM »
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Pumping money? Do you have any idea how much it costs to produce such hardware on such small scale?? I highly doubt there is much profits to be made here at all.

Well, the fact it's a tiny scale and they won't probably make any profit at all doesn't change the fact they will be pumping money from the users. On the 2010 (and probably 2011) 2500$ for that type of computer means pumping money... The targeted people only means that someone may buy it (no one outside Amiga enthousiasts would buy it), not that the price becomes acceptable.
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #38 on: June 20, 2010, 09:34:06 AM »
hate to say it, but even at 300 dollars, the only people who would buy it would be amiga enthusiasts anyways.
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #39 on: June 20, 2010, 09:38:00 AM »
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Do you have any idea how much it costs to produce such hardware on such small scale?

Insane amounts of money. Funnily when this was brought up before there were some people who wouldn't hear any of it.
 

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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2010, 10:15:21 AM »
Quote from: ElPolloDiabl;565755

Anyway, I can't help but wonder how fast UAE would be on a 6 core rig. If 5 people use their X1000 money for a multicore UAE bounty thats over 10k. Seems like a better use of the money.

Well I've got a Core I7 975 @ 3,6GHz and near it's max it runs quite fast yeah.
However because I still have stock cooler I can't push it to the max, I'm already @ 75c degrees when running heavy.
Also my stock 6mb Kingston memory is a limiting factor here, time for upgrades, but I'm spending it all on Amiga's :laughing:
Up today is a mint A4000, fully repaired simm bank, new caps etc for 300 euro.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2010, 10:26:44 AM »
Quote from: Tomas;565721
Pumping money? Do you have any idea how much it costs to produce such hardware on such small scale??


Not even close to this much, at least not if you calculate to sell more boards than a hundred or two.

Sure, they will need some cash to get going, but that's covered by the pre-payment scheme.


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I highly doubt there is much profits to be made here at all.


At this price level, for this kind of hardware, they are surely making a good profit per board...
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2010, 10:43:11 AM »
Much ado about "NOTHING" (really), that quoted price is from user Tommo1975 and on the same thread there is user djRikki (later on) that says he heard less than 1500 eur but that the price is subject to change.

Which basically means they are responding with a little confusion.

But I'll give you another piece too: Balmer used to state things that  were later corrected and in fact today (this morning  actually) Hyperion MP at AW wrote:


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Pricing  is very indicative yet at this stage and certainly not set in stone.   We still need to go through the exercise of cost shaving.  We certainly  expect to realize some savings on peripherals and some components.   Because of the very volatile currency markets, it is very hard to nail  this down now.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2010, 12:24:39 PM »
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Here is the current exchange rate.

http://finance.yahoo.com/currency-converter/#from=GBP;to=USD;amt=1500

So we know the X1000, presumably a whole system, will be more than $2,225. When the first X1000 announcements were made many people guessed it would be $3,000 or more. Since then the USD has strengthened vs the GBP, otherwise this would have been close to that $3,000 mark...


Nice the see the rumour mill in full motion. Lets all wait an see.
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Re: The X1000 will be > $2,225
« Reply #44 from previous page: June 20, 2010, 12:53:53 PM »
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Nice the see the rumour mill in full motion. Lets all wait an see.


You mean like to have A-EON publish on their webs site a clarification?  Or even have Trevor post on here a clarification of what he said?  I'm sure he could spare a minute and do it on his cellphone if he wasn't near a laptop and hotspot.

This is clearly a PR disaster.  If the "North of 1500" was indeed correct, then I expect we are not going to hear from Trevor or A-EON.  If less then 1500 is correct, why aren't they on here stating such?  I think their lack of input is very telling, don't you?
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