AmigaOS 4.1 Update 5 CD for the AmigaONE X1000 "First Contact" system has gone GOLD!

[vox]

People can say whatever they like, but bottom line the machine depicted in the image below is the new Amiga, no "quotation" marks necessary:

As computer that run AmigaOS, that new Amiga is the one that should be called "Amiga". But as we all know, that is a sad result of long run of bad decisions and name selling that makes almost anything to bear Amiga name of consumer electronics

[haywirepc]

Quote:
Originally Posted by BillE  
What a joke. It looks like CUSA cr*p to me.

Its like buying a McDonalds burger and calling it steak.

Whatever trademarks CUSA have, what they manufacture are NOT Amigas in the slightest.
Interesting they seem to change the "design" of their new Amiga range every week, I guess they are spoilt for choice, so many generic PC cases to choose from, and endless possibilities were to place the stickers!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

We can laugh all we want about their crappy designs. At least I can watch youtube videos and use gmail and google docs with their "commodore os" even if it is just linux mint with a commodore theme, at least it works...

[HotRod]

You are such a bitter little man, aren't you? I can see you 30 years from here, so bitter, so angry... your last words will probably be "f*** you Ben Hermans, f*** you Hyperion, damn you all!!!" ... Kind of sad actually.

Also why do care so much for AOS that you have to comment on everything? Makes you look desperate. Not because of you making a comment but rather because of the bitterness.

Cheer up! You scare away potential customers. Nopes got nothing to do with which platform I prefer, I'm really worried about you... can't be healthy to carry around so much anger.

Can someone point me to a thread where Piru has made a positive comment that got nothing to do with AOS 4? I haven't seen one and would like to do so. Thanks!

[vox]

Another question this PR raises is:
? Will OS4.1.5 be released as a bugfix update for existing OS4.1.4 users as well, and will it finally be an ISO (or maybe they will get the CD as well)? Or if no bugfix release will follow OS4.1.4 for existing OS4 users, will OS4.2.0 be a free upgrade for them as well, or was 4.1.4 how far the existing users will come without having to buy the OS once again at the release of OS4.2.0?

seems from this announcement OS 4.1.5 will be free bugfix release for all that just starts the X1000 basic support (like 4.1 did with SAM440, 4.1.1/4.1.2 with SAM 460 and Peg2 etc.) and after that will be no more frequent updates (unless some nasty bugs discovered in 4.1.5)

4.2.0 will be a payable release, but again would span a new wave of updates.

Just as it was with 4.0 (several developer releases and updates), was with 4.1 (5 updates), and will continue with 4.2

Luckily, 4.1 expanded support for few new boards (SAM 440/460, Peg2, X1000, better support for Classics) and hope 4.2 will do similar (I would hope on PPC Macs even its less likely)

[vox]

but nobody associated to Hyperion/A-eon can do this, especially not in a marketing context (which Press Releases definitely are) since they are corporate entities making commercial business based on a license agreement that carefully outlines what they can and can't do regarding the said trade mark. And like it or not, they can't call it "Amiga". Others could (having paid good money for that right), but *they* can't. Money is involved, and multiple parties that doesn't really like each other very much, and like it or not - *there are* legitimate reasons to cancel agreements such as the one between the Amiga IP owner and Hyperion Entertainment.

Agreed, they should try addiing ONE after it and slaping themselves in face after it to learn it better (conditioning :-)

[vox]

MorphOS is not Amiga, never claimed that!

But here is another Amiga. All valid trademark!

http://www.amigaab.se/

Please let me know when you start understanding...

Oh there is one in Serbia too ...
http://www.amiga.rs/poseta_brush_en.htm

Maybe AmigaUSA-Serbia could overtake the CUSA 30 mill campaign :-)

[vox]

That`s great, a new update in just few weeks, an upcomming totally new OS version, plus support for a brand new MoBo.
I`m looking forward to buy the new OS (4.2), and if MOS could run on my MoBo I would even buy it just to try it and support the community.
2012 will be a great AMiGA year.

Finally, some positive thiking! Agreed! :afro:

[vox]

Quote:
We can laugh all we want about their crappy designs. At least I can watch youtube videos and use gmail and google docs with their "commodore os" even if it is just linux mint with a commodore theme, at least it works...

True, but for the same money you could get better Linux driven desktop, laptop or nettop and do the same. And it works. Or with Windows and maybe even Office standard for same price.

Yes, AmigaOS needs to catch up, SAM 460 and X1000 offer more horsepower and OS 4.2 is nice start for OS to modernize. Some of the things like having Java and Flash closed source has nothing to do with AmigaOS. AmigaOS never had those. HTML5 browsers like OWB and Timberwolf are milestone in Amiga browsing.

So if you compare it to browser in Android or any phone where flash and java work it looks sad. But those phones progressed to cost couple hundred euros and have quite powerful hardware just to do it on small screen. Amiga is progressing, now faster then before after long long sleep.

4.0 was fight to have it PPC
4.1 to polish and bugfix
4.2 to have Timberwolf, RadeonHD support, X1000 and nettop ...

Similarly
MOS 1.x to have PPC OS on Blizzard cards
MOS 2.x to modernize PPC OS on G3/G4
MOS 3.x to go to laptops and grow and improve

Realy looking forward to these two!

[takemehomegrandma]

seems from this announcement OS 4.1.5 will be free bugfix release for all that just starts the X1000 basic support (like 4.1 did with SAM440, 4.1.1/4.1.2 with SAM 460 and Peg2 etc.) and after that will be no more frequent updates (unless some nasty bugs discovered in 4.1.5)

Well, in that case, let's hope that OS4.1.5 at least really is *BUG FREE* then, since this seems to be the last one before having to chip up the full fee all over again for the new kind of updates with different version numbers that presumably will follow...

4.2.0 will be a payable release, but again would span a new wave of updates.
Just as it was with 4.0 (several developer releases and updates), was with 4.1 (5 updates), and will continue with 4.2
Luckily, 4.1 expanded support for few new boards (SAM 440/460, Peg2, X1000, better support for Classics) and hope 4.2 will do similar (I would hope on PPC Macs even its less likely)

OS4.0.x did cost the full money
OS4.1.x did cost the full money
OS4.2.x will cost the full money

Is that right?

[redfox]

OS4.0.x did cost the full money
OS4.1.x did cost the full money
OS4.2.x will cost the full money

Is that right?

Yes.

My MicroA1 came bundled with OS4.0.x (motherboard + OS4.0.x).
I purchased OS4.1.x separately, when it became available.
I expect to pay full price for OS4.2.x if it supports the MicroA1.
---
redfox

[vox]

OS4.0.x did cost the full money
OS4.1.x did cost the full money
OS4.2.x will cost the full money
Is that right?

Yes, and to my belief so did MOS 1.x and MOS 2.x
MOS 3.x is decided to be free giveaway to existing users, which is nice.

Maybe Hyperion shoud learn from that. New users would anyway get OS 4.2 / MOS 3

[HotRod]

Well, in that case, let's hope that OS4.1.5 at least really is *BUG FREE* then, since this seems to be the last one before having to chip up the full fee all over again for the new kind of updates with different version numbers that presumably will follow...



OS4.0.x did cost the full money
OS4.1.x did cost the full money
OS4.2.x will cost the full money

Is that right?

Yes, every bigger update costs money, lasts for several years and you get free update to that on the way. The difference between 4.1.0 to 4.1.4 is pretty big. There are some bigger changes when it goes from 4.0 to 4.1 to 4.2 etc and the smaller updates includes mostly bugfixes and improvements but also some smaller features.

A big feature would be multicore support, new printer system, the new shell etc.

Some of the updates during the 4.1 lifespan has been change of the theme, new icons, USB 2.0 driver, bugfixes and speedups. Lots of other things has been updated that I can't recall... the notification system, WBStartup program that replaced the drawer, RunInUAE included offcourse and what not... Don't remember it all.

This works very well for me when updates are released regularly. The wait for update #3 took forever and I wasn't pleased with how update #2 worked. In the end I'm happy though and updates are said to be released more often again so that is all good. I like the way they are handling it, you pay for something and get to enjoy what's there for several years with each update being an improvement. In the meanwhile there are information about what bigger updates are planed and you got something to look forward too.

[hooligan]

gotta disagree on the browser front, there. i use MUIOWB every day and i've yet to encounter a site it can't render correctly.  it's no i7, but the SAM works just fine for me.  where are you located physically? are there other amigans or a user group that can check things out for you? you shouldn't have this experience.

-- eliyahu

Try playing some songs at http://www.soundcloud.com or http://www.mikseri.net

[TheFab]

Yes, and to my belief so did MOS 1.x and MOS 2.x
MOS 3.x is decided to be free giveaway to existing users, which is nice.

Maybe Hyperion shoud learn from that. New users would anyway get OS 4.2 / MOS 3

Morphos 1.x was free, so for 3 versions (including the upcoming 3.x) you only have to pay once, not three times.