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Offline David WrightTopic starter

Upgrading Warp Engine on my A4000
« on: February 07, 2019, 02:39:42 PM »
I have an 040/25mhz in my 4000 with 16mb ram. How hard and costly would it be to upgrade to 060?
 

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Re: Upgrading Warp Engine on my A4000
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2019, 09:54:26 PM »
Well the 040/060 interface card is not expensive but sorting a real 060 processor might be difficult, then just change the oscillator. For a 66 MHz CPU use a 33 MHz Oscillator. I have the card but my A4000 board needs some repair the replace the re 9 buster with a rev 11 and i haven't had the time with all my other outstanding projects. Once done I'll post the progress. the 040/060 adapter can be bought on Amibay. I suggest adding more ram also.
 

Offline Acill

Re: Upgrading Warp Engine on my A4000
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2019, 01:57:33 AM »
You dont need to change the oscillator on the WarpEngine when using an adapter. In fact you can push it even more in most cases. I have dont a few with a stock Rev 5 060 well above 66 Mhz. I have a few 060's here and maybe willing to let one go, but I dont do the adapters any longer. They are just to time-consuming to make for me these days.
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Offline darksun9210

Re: Upgrading Warp Engine on my A4000
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2019, 04:22:36 PM »
aha! you have an advantage that the Warp Engine has a pretty rapid ram controller as well. faster than my old cyberstorm2 if I recall....
although Phase5 stuff did really well on emulating the 68030 bus cycle so the chipram access on the cyberstorms was always a winner... anyway I digress.

warpengines would usually came with a 28Mhz crystal to give you a modest overclock boost as well, but I think there was a bottom pricing tier where the warpengine came with no CPU and you had to pull the one off your A3640 - so it was an overclock from the get-go.

I managed to take my warp engine up to a reliable 40Mhz just with a crystal swap and an AMD k6-2 (what I had laying around at the time, back in the day) heatsink+fan combo. I still have the 28Mhz clock chip somewhere...

if you want to go the full 060, then you're in a good place, as you can probably plop in an adapter, and get 50Mhz off the bat with that 25Mhz clock. up to 80Mhz should be do-able, but more than that, and your memory controller, while a fast refresh, may not play so nice as it won't be able to keep up at faster clocks.

060's usually retail for £$100 from what I've seen, but I managed to get a few G65V mask 060's from china (ebay) for a knock down price - that actually tested and work! :D
040 to 060 adapters I've seen for quite stonky money, but considering each one is usually a hand made, I get it. But they are still probably your best option as an actual 060 card these days is silly money.

but as always, your mileage may vary, and yeah, i'd be on ebay to get some more ram :)

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Offline David WrightTopic starter

Re: Upgrading Warp Engine on my A4000
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2019, 06:47:58 PM »
Thanks for the replies. A man on Amibay sells the complete kit for 060 upgrade:
http://www.amibay.com/showthread.php?98544-4x-060-adapters-for-A3640-WarpEngine-spring-mini-sale

looks like everyone is happy with it.

I did procure four 32mb ram on ebay , but every securing clip in simm socket broke off when I released the old ram.
They will work but I need a source for new simm sockets.
 

Offline cehofer

Re: Upgrading Warp Engine on my A4000
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2019, 04:57:29 PM »
If it uses 72pin SIMM.  Here is a new socket from Amigakit.

http://amigakit.amiga.store/product_info.php?products_id=594