A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaOS 4

[Piru]

Communications about this whole matter could have been handled better, preferably as a joint statement from all involved parties, and with detailed and unambiguous explanations for all paths users might take.

Now it's just extremely confusing, and leaves a lot of room for misinterpretations.

[Akiko]

Communications about this whole matter could have been handled better, preferably as a joint statement from all involved parties, and with detailed and unambiguous explanations for all paths users might take.

Now it's just extremely confusing, and leaves a lot of room for misinterpretations.

The developer has just made a new blog entry.


http://hdrlab.org.nz/projects/amiga-os-4-projects/radeonhd-driver/radeonhd-development-log/new-blogentry/

[giZmo350]

Communications about this whole matter could have been handled better, preferably as a joint statement from all involved parties, and with detailed and unambiguous explanations for all paths users might take.
 
Now it's just extremely confusing, and leaves a lot of room for misinterpretations.

I agree..........

[stevieu]

Communications about this whole matter could have been handled better, preferably as a joint statement from all involved parties, and with detailed and unambiguous explanations for all paths users might take.

Now it's just extremely confusing, and leaves a lot of room for misinterpretations.

It seems pretty clear to me.

[Piru]

The developer has just made a new blog entry.

http://hdrlab.org.nz/projects/amiga-os-4-projects/radeonhd-driver/radeonhd-development-log/new-blogentry/

I'm not sure if I interpret this part correctly:

A-Eon Technology naturally needs to recuperate their costs, and hence the driver is available for a fee to AmigaOS 4.1 owners. Those with an AmigaOS 4.2 license (i.e., A1-X1000 owners) naturally have already paid for their updates.

Does this mean that the £28.85 will be rebated if/when you get the OS 4.2 license?

Also, does one get a coupon and a t-shirt?

[stevieu]

What an OS maker should do isn't write the driver, but they should provide the API, which is what Hyperion do. Writing the API allows the graphics card manufacturer - or in this case, A-Eon, because AMD aren't going to do it - to support the cards.

....

The alternative is simple - no support for later graphics cards at all. I think I prefer this option somehow.

Well, you have it rather spot on.

Cheers!

Steve

[Duce]

There goes my plans to buy a 460 if I have to pay for gfx drivers.

Oh well.

[vox]

I'm not sure if I interpret this part correctly:

Does this mean that the £28.85 will be rebated if/when you get the OS 4.2 license?

Also, does one get a coupon and a t-shirt?

No, you get driver for OS 4.1

OS 4.2 should have it bundled.

If InI get it correct.

[vox]

There goes my plans to buy a 460 if I have to pay for gfx drivers.

Oh well.

Mine too, just because X1000 is more expandable. 10 USB 2.0, much more expandable board once PCI slots get empty ...

InI know this will be flamming to MOS users, but InI also congrat them on first laptop and new OS version with hope to have it for X1000.

All PPC Macs are cheap but all but G5 are outdated to X1000.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD5x263GTuo&list=PL99B59D587FFAEA6A&index=44&feature=plpp_video

[vox]

Big Up A-EON for securing the future of AMIGA GRAPHICS


Love and support from Serbia

[Piru]

All PPC Macs are cheap but all but G5 are outdated to X1000.

I don't know why you decided to bring this up in this thread, but I found out that my PowerBook G4 1.67GHz is actually faster than X1000 in most tasks. I also have some benchmark results to back this up.

If being "outdated" means "faster", as well as "cheaper", where's the problem again? Support? I doubt A-Eon or Amigakit can compete with apple repair network...

[slayer]

Well done Trevor and Hans

[kedawa]

I wonder how much it will cost to get those cards supported in AROS...

[vox]

I don't know why you decided to bring this up in this thread, but I found out that my PowerBook G4 1.67GHz is actually faster than X1000 in most tasks. I also have some benchmark results to back this up.

If being "outdated" means "faster", as well as "cheaper", where's the problem again? Support? I doubt A-Eon or Amigakit can compete with apple repair network...

Currently yes, but hardware side is hardware side. On Debian Wheezy where all RAM and both cores are utilized test are more realistic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZxJ9If50Tk&feature=player_embedded

Do them.
MorphOS is way more developed and optimized, thanks to much earlier start of development and no waste of time in complete OS 3.x port to PPC.

I have nothing against MOS, contrary I am sad its not OS 4.x just because we would be closer to OS 5.x if it was and we wouldnt argue at all. When I had momey to buy PPC equipped Classic MOS 2.x ceased support, when Peg2 became cheap SAM and other new HW arrived and now I do save money for X1000 as well as PPC Macs have no battery or spare parts support at all, and are with with AGP, slow mem, EIDE ATA etc.

MOS should go X1000 and Trevor can donate a board.

Apple repair net no longer deals with anything PPC for few years, so A-EON and AmiKit are better
then 3rd party rip offs that charge $200 for laptop battery.

I recently had PPC G4 Laptop selling for 50 euros with no battery and I declined the offer when realized
how much 512MB additional RAM and battery costs + postage + import costs to non EU country
(plus 100 euros for MOS). Even I would love to have Mint 11, MacOS X and MOS on one machine,
I prefered high end workstation with OS 4.2 and Mint 11

[_ThEcRoW]

High end workstation?, are you serious?. I don't know why you had to put that video in the thread, but since you brought up, why doesn't show the differences in price?. That would be more informative to the youtube audience.

[Piru]

Currently yes, but hardware side is hardware side. On Debian Wheezy where all RAM and both cores are utilized test are more realistic.

And what do we get "right now" is what matters (as I remember this was the argument for going for the payment scheme for these 2D drivers, too. To get them out "right now" instead of waiting). I can run Linux on some 6 core i7 box. Who cares about linux...

PPC Macs have no battery or spare parts support at all

Lets see maybe some parts for my PowerBook G4 15"?
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/apple_laptop/batteries/PowerBook_G4_15_AL
http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Powerbook-G4-Aluminum-Service-Parts---15-Models----Replacement-Parts-For-Repair-p-1-c-408.html
http://www.apfelklinik.de/catalog/index.php/cPath/49_51
http://www.ifixit.com/Mac-Parts/PowerBook-G4-Aluminum-15%22

MOS should go X1000 and Trevor can donate a board.

No we won't go for such insane HW, sorry. Insanely expensive, not providing significantly better performance and a dead end product (PA6T is dead and X1000 is likely already in the process of being replaced with something else). Thanks, but no thanks, I can think dozens of better ways to spend our resources than wasting it on this dead corpse of a computer.

Apple repair net no longer deals with anything PPC for few years

There are gazillion of repair companies still offering repairs for PPC macs. There are some many of these machines still in circulation that the support is excellent considering the age of the HW.

Try getting support for X1000 after 7 years.

, so A-EON and AmiKit are better then 3rd party rip offs that charge $200 for laptop battery.

$99 for a new battery with 1 year guarantee doesn't quite equate to "$200 rip off" in my books.

On the other hand look at the prices of the phase5 hardware for instance. They go higher than original price these days. Custom HW just doesn't make any sense.

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This is my last OT message regarding this particular topic in this thread. You can PM me vox if you wish to discuss this further.