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14 Million new Amiga users!
« on: March 11, 2003, 05:09:35 PM »
There's 14 million potential "Amiga" users worldwide out there, they own Sony Playstation 2's!
Sony already has a Linux developer kit available for developers and hobbiests.
However, it is just that, a developers kit, not for the average user.
Sony has sold in North America alone over 400,000 ethernet adaptors for the 4 million PS2"s already in North American homes, that adaptor, in addition to 56k and High Speed internet access, also makes possible the addition of a standard sized IDE hardrive.  With the PS2's USB and Firewire ports, and it can also be used at a resolution of 1024x768 on a XVGA monitor. This is a home computer just waiting to happen.  Just needs someone to write a nice  OS for it, you know Microsoft won't  :)
 

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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2003, 05:48:04 PM »
Actually, nintendo would be a better company to team up with. The Gamecube has a PowerPC processor and ATI graphics. The only downside is that as well as supplying a keyboard and mouse, you'd need to supply a DVD Rom drive somehow, as the GC has a custom disk format.
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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2003, 06:02:46 PM »
Hmm but is the architecture not waaaaaaay to different compared to the Teron boards? I think that a port to PS2/GC would take at least as long as the port to A1 is taking =).

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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2003, 06:05:08 PM »
I'm not saying it would actually happen, i'm just saying if you were going to pick a console to team up with, the GC would require the least porting for OS4 or MorphOS to work on it.

Its never going to happen, so its all just hypothetical, you understand  :-)
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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2003, 06:06:27 PM »
There's just one tiny'ish problem...

The old PS1 had about the same performance we can expect from the A1. If we compare it with A1+Matrox 2D. And the PS2 have specs like x10 PS1.

Sorry, but they're better off with their current PS2.
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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2003, 06:11:35 PM »
Well, the Gamecubes userbase is currently 1.5 million in North America ( PS2 4 million, Xbox 1.4 million).
They write games to run on all 3, why not a nice small OS to run on all game consoles.  Although I don't know how much longer Microsoft is going to keep blowing their money on Xbox.  
 

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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2003, 06:17:23 PM »
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The old PS1 had about the same performance we can expect from the A1. If we compare it with A1+Matrox 2D. And the PS2 have specs like x10 PS1.

Ehhm im not quite sure which performance you are talking about here. The CPU of ps1 was around 20-40 mhz iirc. I used to emulate ps1 on my k6-2 333 mhz

About amiga on ps2. Its gonna happen. We are just waiting for Aos 5  :-D
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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2003, 06:19:30 PM »
> Although I don't know how much longer Microsoft is going to keep blowing their money on Xbox.

And admit defeat!?! ;-)

I wonder how long it will take until we see an anouncement like:

"Microsoft to concentrate on core buissness areas"
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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2003, 06:26:03 PM »
> The CPU of ps1 was around 20-40 mhz iirc.

25MHz infact. Two MIPS processors running at 25MHz with GFX integrated on one of the chips. If that doesn't ring a bell, then you really don't know anything. It's a multi-processor chip harbouring about eight processors each. The 250MHz PS2 Kicks the balls of both PPC and x86 so hard that the nuts will end up on the moon.

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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2003, 06:31:52 PM »
It will never cease to amaze me how the "World's first 32 bit console" never took off merely for lack of advertising.  I had a friend once come over and he spotted the "32-bit" on top of my CD32 and kept asking question after question, but he never did BUY one, the dope!
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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2003, 06:32:07 PM »
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The old PS1 had about the same performance we can expect from the A1. If we compare it with A1+Matrox 2D. And the PS2 have specs like x10 PS1


Eh?  The PS1 was comparable with a CD-32, exept for the 3D performance.  The A1 is in a completly different league!

@JetRacer

You mean that M$ actually consider a part of their business to be "core" now :-)

What could be interesting is a port of DE to those consoles.

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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2003, 06:48:02 PM »
> The PS1 was comparable with a CD-32, exept for the 3D performance.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

That was funny.

The PS1's only performance comes from a pair of MIPS CPU's. It doesn't have a 3D chip, only RAW POWER strait through. It's like having a Matrox board integrated on the same chip as a PPC with full parallel blast between them. And then you scare it up to 16x250MHz (16 processors, distributed over two chips), and do some finetunes to get the PS2.

Note: PS1 games looks like CD32 because it only have 5MB (unified) RAM available for games. Therefore most gfx is 8-bit with 32-bit (rgba) gfx effects ontop.
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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2003, 06:51:47 PM »
What PPC is used in the GC .... AnyOne ?
What Max Resolution can the GC do
Directly or Hacked ?

What about using the GC as an PPC accelerator
with GFX for our A1200 Like the Phase 5 cards. !

If you could do this to the CD32 you have CD drive,
 easy Keyboard & Mouse option.  Add a IDE & WOW.

GCCD32 sounds like "Juicy" CD32  :-D
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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2003, 07:05:11 PM »
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And then you scare it up to 16x250MHz (16 processors, distributed over two chips), and do some finetunes to get the PS2.

Not that im an expert, but I was under the impression that the hardware of the x-box was superior to the ps2. The xbox is 'just' a 7-800 mhz p3 with a nifty graphics card.
Im pretty confident that if games for the new amiga had the same funding behind it as games for the ps2, we would have games with similar quality
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Re: 14 Million new Amiga users!
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2003, 07:14:25 PM »
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What PPC is used in the GC .... AnyOne ?

As far as I know the GC utilizes a g3 400 mhz
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