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Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« on: June 21, 2010, 06:10:40 PM »
The first public showing of the AmigaOne X1000 made the mainstream Tech News website The Register.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/21/amiga_x1000/
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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2010, 11:07:05 PM »
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These seem to be as busy as ever: the AmigaOS looks terrific, and ports of FireFox and OpenOffice are close to bearing fruit.

I haven't been paying much attention, but was that a mistake, or is someone really working on OpenOffice.org and (without a bit of compiler magic) a JRE?
 

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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2010, 11:26:26 PM »
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I haven't been paying much attention, but was that a mistake, or is someone really working on OpenOffice.org and (without a bit of compiler magic) a JRE?
This "openoffice.org port" rumor is based on this post: Re: X1000 configurazion (what i think it will be)

Decide for yourself.

As for Java, JRE is nowhere to be seen. It's still JAmiga, and as useless as ever. Yet another misunderstanding taken as a fact ("we're getting java!").
 

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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2010, 11:29:26 PM »
Java on desktop machines. Can anybody explain the point?
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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2010, 11:45:23 PM »
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Java on desktop machines. Can anybody explain the point?

What's a desktop machine? Seriously. ;-) Unless you're spending serious money, your average "desktop" is about as powerful as your average "server." The difference is in the software, yeah? There are some innovative products out there, e.g. http://www.seamicro.com/, but most modern data centers expand horizontally using off the shelf servers built with rebranded commodity components. Google's a great example, despite their nifty containerized data center design.

EDIT: Re: Java, I run local copies of ColdFusion/JRun. That's about it.
 

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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2010, 11:50:58 PM »
Yawn......more over priced, under powered hardware of OS4.

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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2010, 11:53:27 PM »
Oh no. Please, please, please do not let "Amiga" become the Harley Davidson of the computing world.
 

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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2010, 01:28:11 AM »
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Oh no. Please, please, please do not let "Amiga" become the Harley Davidson of the computing world.


Why not? It seems to me that the HD business model (while not likely to happen) would be a good thing for the Amiga. I'd be happy to buy some less costly clones of equal or better quality. Plus there would be an explosion of OEM and after market "chrome plated" accessories. Who wouldn't want to hear the "Clickity-clack" of a nice chromed floppy drive?

The biggest downside that I can see would be the blow dealt to those of us who enjoy broadcasting our propaganda anytime anything threatens the obscurity of the Amiga platform and community. (As if that's even possible...)
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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2010, 01:33:58 AM »
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yawn......more over priced, under powered hardware of os4.
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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2010, 01:36:41 AM »
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Java on desktop machines. Can anybody explain the point?


Eclipse?
 

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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2010, 01:41:58 AM »
From the link Pyromania posted....
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AMIGA LOVER Michael Carrillo gazed enthusiastically at the antique graphics running on his 2004 Amiga One and said, "Stunt Car Racing. 1987. Geoff Crammond. It's an all-time classic. Why no-one has not updated the graphics for a more modern era I don't know."


Someone did. It's called TrackMania.com , and I love it. :) Port that.

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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2010, 01:51:33 AM »
From the comments section of the article:

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The XMOS desgin suffers exactly from the same problem as the Inmos Transputer: Although the basic idea is very good (CPU having inter-process communications facility built-in), the implementation is very British: Instead of integrating a differential driver into their chip and using the latest process technology, they have a substandard-performance communications links yielding about 100Mbit/s.

With differential signalling, they could certainly achieve 1Gbit/s or more. There is a technology around called 10G Ethernet.

The Transputer had exactly the same problem...


Which pretty much nails it for me

That the chip itself cannot access system ram (or afaik anything else), runs essentially on its own and the open sourced dev tools only allow you to operate part of the chip... I just can't understand the necessity of it on a desktop system beyond being a kinda cute talking point. It's a solution looking for a problem.

The article is so much crap it isn't really worth talking about.
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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2010, 02:52:54 AM »
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Oh no. Please, please, please do not let "Amiga" become the Harley Davidson of the computing world.


More like the Indian or the Tucker.
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Re: Son of Transputer powers new AmigaOne X1000
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2010, 03:05:17 AM »
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This "openoffice.org port" rumor is based on this post: Re: X1000 configurazion (what i think it will be)
 
Decide for yourself.
 
As for Java, JRE is nowhere to be seen. It's still JAmiga, and as useless as ever. Yet another misunderstanding taken as a fact ("we're getting java!").

Piru is this what you are referring to?
 
http://wiki.ooo4kids.org/index.php/EnvironmentSetup/AmigaOS