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Amithlon question
« on: July 24, 2006, 06:33:46 PM »
Is there any good site that gives good information about Amithlon and its updates etc? Is anyone still using this emulator and if so how is it?
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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2006, 06:39:04 PM »
I used it for a while, was very fast, but i still prefer Amiga Forever (currently using V6, not the latest, but not too old).

Amithlon has now been discontinued.
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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2006, 09:40:21 PM »
but, there are upgrade to support new x86 hardware.
For now Amithlon support SATA controller and some coder works on amithlon kernel to support more pc hardware like video, audio e hd controller.

Yes, there are very few people, but even slowly, amithlon grows :)

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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2006, 09:47:58 PM »
I've been using it for a couple months. And it is great. It's the fastest Amiga I've ever had. In fact, I've been turning a couple of my old PIII-866-1000's into Amithlon machines. On a PIII-1000, it's about 10-15 faster than a 68060-50 using the DSPSPEED benchmark.

And also, lots of hardware is available, unlike for OS4.

There is a Yahoo group called Amithlonopen. I will try to put up a website in the near future to consolidate all the info on the web about Amithlon.
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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2006, 10:19:06 PM »
I'm using Amithlon on Virtual PC with my PPC Mac Mini and its still fast! :-o .

The death of this project was a big blow to the amiga
 

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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2006, 10:24:58 PM »
What can you realistically do with it?

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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2006, 12:06:52 AM »
I use it for surfing the internet with AWeb 3.5.08. It still needs a couple features of modern browsers like CSS, but it's faster than any browser on my Windows XP machines. Also, it's more immune to spyware and other hazsards since the Amiga is but a blip on the the internet.

So far, I have gotten it to burn CD's, play MP3's, MODS, and MIDI files, put it on my Windows 2000 network so that it can utilize shared drives and printers, and emulate a Mac (Quadra 650). I have also installed some programs, AmigaWriter, Art Effects, PerfectPaint DirectoryOpus and Bars and Pipes. I also installed some old software, ProWrite 3.2, DeluxeMusic2, Pagestream2.2.

I still have some more projects to do on it: Install TrueType fonts, a 3-D program (Aladdin 4-D, Imagine), some WB games, enable the USB ports, etc...

But this is as close to a modern Amiga you can get to today.

I do use WinUAE too. It's more compatible with classic Amiga software since it emulates the Amiga's custom chips. But in terms of performance, Amithlon blazes.

However, it does take quite a bit of tweaking. If you're up to the challenge, it will really payoff.
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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2006, 12:11:13 AM »
Sounds interesting. Maybe I should try it out, I would like to have a Perfect Paint box.
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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2006, 12:15:59 AM »
I have used an HD installed copy of AMithlon on my 500MHz Pentium III machine (my fastest PC) and it ran really nicely. Didn't have much software for it though, and at the time I didn't have an ADSL internet connection that could be used through my ethernet card, so I don't know what internet is like on it.

That computer is spare now (I use a powermac now) so I will install Amithlon on it again.
 

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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2006, 10:43:19 AM »
Can you run WHDLoad on it?

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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2006, 10:45:25 AM »
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Can you run WHDLoad on it?

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AFAIK there is no custom chip emulation in Amithlon.
Anyway is the only way
 

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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2006, 05:06:09 PM »
As already mentioned, Amithlon does not support the custom chips. It is meant more for performance and is thus suited for Desktop Publishing (PageStream), Graphics (PerfectPaint), 3-D Graphics (Maxxon Cinema4D), networking, etc...

It supports graphics which use P96 and audio which uses AHI. There are some games that take advantage of these advanced features. But older games are best played using WinUAE.

I have my machine dual-booted with Amithlon and WindowsXP. For older programs, I go into XP and use WinUAE emulation. For applications that require speed, I go into Amithlon.

Several programmers use Amithlon to develop 68K programs because of the speed of compiling. TotalAmiga magazine also uses it to layout their magazine. I believe there are still graphics artists who use its speed for rendering 3-D graphics and musicians who use it for Bars & Pipes with MIDI.

In the AmithlonOpen Yahoo groups, recently, I was able to get help from both Bernie Meyer (Amithlon) as well as several others who were instrumental in it.

Gary Colville is still working on updating the kernals to support newer hardware.

Here are some links:
http://www.geit.de/
http://www.hd-zone.com/
http://www.haage-partner.de/amigaxl/support-faq-e.html
http://www.vmc.de/amithlon/index.html
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A500 - 170 MB HD, 8 MB RAM, OS 1.3/2.04
A2000 - 350 MB HD, 8 MB RAM, A2630, OS 2.04
A2500 - 540 MB HD, 8 MB RAM, A2630, OS 3.9
A1200 - 20 GB HD, 64 MB RAM, Blizzard IV
Amithlon - 49 GB HD, 768 MB RAM, PIII-1G
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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2006, 08:36:52 PM »
a little off topic i know but, just how do you make amithlon hd bootable, i have tried following guides but its all a bit complicated for a newbie like me. Could anyone give me a stupid persons guide to intalling amithlon?
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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2006, 08:59:25 PM »
@ Juv.U.K
You could try the install disk on the link here, but WARNING only do this if you only wish to use Amithlon on a single harddisk as it will re-partition the whole disk.

http://www.saunalahti.fi/~vjouppi/amithlon/
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Re: Amithlon question
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2006, 09:03:13 PM »
thanks Nitro, I'll give it a go! ;o)
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