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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Marc17 on August 09, 2003, 11:25:27 AM

Title: To be or not to be
Post by: Marc17 on August 09, 2003, 11:25:27 AM
But i want a CDTV  ;-)  Heh. Would fit with the rest of the stuff in my room. Plus ive never had one before.

Im scouring the net looking for a good one at a good price. Hopefully around £50 and under... Think its possible. If not i'll declare defeat and go for the abundant supply of A1200s out there ... :-(

The CDTV can hook up to a normal TV right, its not specific to that little monitor is it. Just i got a 28" flatscreen that needs to meet the name Amiga.
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Marc17 on August 09, 2003, 11:26:48 AM
............


sh...bol.....bum.


Not used to these forums. i pressed the post thread instead of the tiny reply button.
Could someone put this in with my Hi thread...pwettty please. sorry for any confusion and/or disturbance.
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Rudei on August 09, 2003, 11:26:59 AM
Dude, you could`ve added to your previous thread by simply clicking reply
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Marc17 on August 09, 2003, 11:28:33 AM
I know i know. silly me. i clicked hte first button i saw.  :-?  :-?  :-x
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: edderkop on August 09, 2003, 12:06:33 PM
The a1200 have a bult in TVout and composit out(in color)
 :-D

by the way a CDTV is a a500 based system.
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: amigamad on August 09, 2003, 12:19:22 PM
You can find these on ebay .for around 50 pound and sometimes under.if not try http://www.amibench.com/ (http://www.amibench.com/) :-)
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Marc17 on August 09, 2003, 04:14:18 PM
Yeh the CDTV is an A500 in disguise. But aslong as it plays Superfrog, Alien Breed and Dizzy which you can get on CD, im fine. Its got the OS if i need anything else, ill probably upgrade it maybe.

This site is nice. http://www.cdtv.org.uk/1254.html

Explains quite alot.

Is the CDVT not AGA ?
Do i really need AGA to play said games, and use the workbench etc...?
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Ilwrath on August 09, 2003, 08:45:12 PM
Hmm... I think you're actually looking for a CD32, not a CDTV.  The CDTV was set-top box based off the A500.  The CD32 was closest related to the A1200, had AGA, and was a game system.

As far as I know, games like SuperFrog were CD32 games, not CDTV.  (Though there were some CDTV titles, there weren't many, and the CD32 will play most of those, as well as it's own.)
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Mike_Amiga on August 09, 2003, 09:18:26 PM
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Yeh the CDTV is an A500 in disguise. But as long as it plays Superfrog, Alien Breed and Dizzy which you can get on CD, im fine. Its got the OS if i need anything else, ill probably upgrade it maybe.

This site is nice. http://www.cdtv.org.uk/1254.html

Explains quite alot.

Is the CDVT not AGA ?
Do i really need AGA to play said games, and use the workbench etc...?


You do not need a CDTV or CD32 to play games like Superfrog and Dizzy an A500(+) will surfice. You'll also find things like Zool, Moonstone, Civilization, The Monkey Island series, Assassin and many others were on this platform. Although I'm aware some of these titles had their AGA incarnations as well.;-)

You might need an A1200 (with AGA) for Alien Breed I can't remember, maybe I'm thinking of Alien Breed Tower Assault? :-? Not that I've ever played either of those. :-D
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Revener on August 09, 2003, 11:08:48 PM
Tower Assault where AGA I think, but the original Alien Breed and the special edition is OCS.
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Marc17 on August 11, 2003, 01:21:12 PM
Yes. Im going to go for an A1200. Will be nice seeing that again. Gonna have to get some upgrades on it.

Thats if i find just a bog standard A1200. I may get one with stuff already with it...Hmm.

:D

--edit

I was wondering if anyone could tell me what make the joystick in this collection is.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3039223676&category=11991

I used to have it with my Amiga, and it was great, best joystick ever (never did like anyother joystick after that one) If i could get the name and make and what not, i might be able to find another one.

Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Calen on August 11, 2003, 01:49:58 PM
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I was wondering if anyone could tell me what make the joystick in this collection is.


Looks like it's the one pictured below, A QuickShot Maverick.
I had one of these which are pretty good, second in line to the mighty Zipstick.


(http://snil.s31.pl/svi/quickshot/qs128f.JPG)
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: on August 11, 2003, 01:52:41 PM
I have one of these in a box in the attic back at my parents house.  I remember it was good for platform games.

I agree that it was second in line to te ZipStick.  What a joystick that was!  Sega Megadrive joypads were good too.
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Marc17 on August 11, 2003, 02:02:09 PM
I had them both. The quickshot was my Player 1 joystick and the (2nd in line for me) Zipstick was the Player 2 joystick hehe.


Thank you so much. Ah it brings back memories. Now, just where can i find one ?
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Marc17 on August 11, 2003, 02:05:47 PM
One question i want to ask. Will older games like dizzy work on the 1200 ?

I remember playing them on the 500 then i got hte 1200. My old games like dizzy didnt work (some games that didnt work were pirated, but dizzy wasnt) I think it was either fantasy land dizzy or treasure island. Cant remember. Also which was the dizzy where you chased food around a maze like pacman. ?
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: MrZammler on August 11, 2003, 02:09:05 PM
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As far as I know, games like SuperFrog were CD32 games, not CDTV.


Nope, supefrog (floppies) plays great on my CDTV here....
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: on August 11, 2003, 02:11:33 PM
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Marc17 wrote:
I had them both. The quickshot was my Player 1 joystick and the (2nd in line for me) Zipstick was the Player 2 joystick hehe.


Thank you so much. Ah it brings back memories. Now, just where can i find one ?


I'll sell you mine for a hundred quid! :-D
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Calen on August 11, 2003, 02:12:35 PM
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Thank you so much. Ah it brings back memories. Now, just where can i find one ?

No problem. as for where you to get one is a tougher question.  You could scan Ebay or place a wanted ad on Amibench (http://www.amibench.org)
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Marc17 on August 11, 2003, 02:18:38 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3039250780&category=3642

Will it work on A1200.

I heard Sega pads and stuff work on 1200. Thats amazing. I might aswell steal my mates joypads too hehe.
Theres also an Amiga one. for £1.00 so far.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3040622746&category=11991
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Calen on August 11, 2003, 02:29:04 PM
Interesting, never seen a 3 button Maverick before.

 Yes i have heard that Megadrive pads work on an Amiga to, if they have the same pinouts i don't see why not.
 I'm sure there are a few here who may have used one in  the past and can comment further just to be sure.
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Marc17 on August 11, 2003, 05:42:54 PM
Is £30 usually a good price for an A1200 unmodified, with games and other #### ?

should i go for one with upgrades and stuff ? Im thinking yes....

hmmm, cd32 for quite a good price...
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Calen on August 11, 2003, 06:07:16 PM
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s £30 usually a good price for an A1200 unmodified, with games and other #### ?

If everything is working as it should be, yep its not a bad price.

If you just want to run very old games that require no heavy cpu/mem usage then a bog standard A1200 should do the job, it will run most of the older a500 games with some kickback utilities/alittle fiddling
If you want something with a bit more power, you may want something i have just come across while very quickly browsing  ebay ..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3039194662&category=11991

If the CPU in question with that Amiga is an 040 which it seems to be according to this (http://www.amiga-hardware.com/apollo1240.html) and you can pick up this complete system up for under £100, that be quite a killer deal.
 It will rise from its current £41.00 bid.

I just remembered i actualy had one of these cards, you can't get much faster in the 68k classic line besides the 060 leap.
 I'm not even gonna try to remember what i paid for it either back in the day  :-o
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Marc17 on August 11, 2003, 06:56:27 PM
Yeh ive been following that one.

And this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3039800990&category=11991

If i get just a bog standard 1200, and wanted to put a CDrom onto it, how much am i looking at...and what fiddling is required, just stick the pcmcia in the trap door ?Any installation ?

Also, old games on the 1200, if they dont work, what type of kickstart fiddling are you refering to. What would be needed to be done..?

ta
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Calen on August 11, 2003, 07:33:32 PM
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If i get just a bog standard 1200, and wanted to put a CDrom onto it, how much am i looking at...and what fiddling is required, just stick the pcmcia in the trap door ?Any installation ?

The pcmcia slot is not located in the trapdoor slot but rather at the side of the A1200, the trapdoor is mostly used for Accelerators/ram expansions.


Basically your choices for getting an CD hooked up to an A1200 are The pcmcia route with something like the Squirrel pcmcia  interface but this is quite an expensive route and the only plus side is that it is external so you do not need a towered Amiga.  They could be hard to locate also.
 The much cheaper route is to use the onboard IDE connector on the a1200 Motherboard with some kind of IDE buffered device, but you will need a Towered Amiga.  
You can probably get a cheap IDE buffered devices or something abit more expensive like the Powerflyer from places like  Eyetech (http://www.eyetech.co.uk)

If i where you though and to take all the hassle out of getting everything you need, get an Amiga thats already towered or includes all you want/need, classic Amiga hardware is very expensive new.

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Also, old games on the 1200, if they dont work, what type of kickstart fiddling are you refering to. What would be needed to be done..?

Plenty of info and what you need here (http://web.ukonline.co.uk/Members/gc.yuen/gamesfixes/)
Title: Re: To be or not to be
Post by: Marc17 on August 11, 2003, 07:48:20 PM
I yer i forgot about that side slot.

Well. Im gonna start bidding. Ive found mostly bog standard 1200s in my budget range. That upgraded one is going up and up. I may bid on it but i expect it to be around 70 by tomorow.

I found a cd32 for 10 so far, and a pad and 6 games for 6 quid so far too. Interesting.