AmigaONE X1000 Sale Ends 7th January 2014

[giZmo350]

Is there something I missed about their networking not working?

Ummmmm, yeah, A Lot!!!:juggler:

P.S. Plz don't ask for a link 'cause there's too damn many of 'em and I don't wanna read 'em again!

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

LOL, okay!  :mickeymouse:

[Hans_]

When I saw an X1000 the guy just plugged it in to the router and turned it on.  Although I admit it did feel a bit weird browsing the web on an Amiga, LOL.  It's been a long time.    Is there something I missed about their networking not working?

The driver for the on-board ethernet still hasn't been released yet. So, all A1-X1000s come with a PCI networking card, and that card works just fine (as you saw yourself). It was announced at AmiWest that the driver for the on-board ethernet was in testing.

IIRC, one person in particular was incensed that the on-board ethernet driver wasn't released shortly after AmiWest. That's probably the big fuss that you missed.

Hans

[Glittering]

£2.038 (plus £13 p&p) for a low specced machine is a joke and I've personally seen better computers thrown away at a tip.

I thought I would log in to see how times changed but still the remaining Amiga shops are doing what they do best (way over charging for items like its the nineties).

[JohnFante]

I think everybody agrees that the X1000 is expensive. Even then ones that allready bought one!

Considering the development cost per unit for such a small number of boards combines with the cost of the rather "excenntric" CPU the price is not insane. High but not insane.

The Cyrrus board will be cheaper and more powerfull (at least they say) but as long as you are talking series of max a couple of thousand boards the price will be very high compared to normal PC and also most MAC's.

The only thing that can change that are two things.

An investor villing to invest in a niche platform mostly populated by middleaged men who long for the platform of thier childhood (I am one of them :-)). Not going to happend I am affraid.

Us middleaged men with money to spare buy more boards and get the price per unit down. The though but realistic way.

There is no such thing is a free lunch :-) one of the drawbacks of having a excentric hoppy is the price. Lets stop complaining it will not change anything and will onlye sour the mood and the scene.

I for one is saving up for a Cyrrus board.

[Thorham]

it will not change anything and will onlye sour the mood and the scene.

Very true. I've jumped in on X1000 threads while I'm not even interested in the AOS4 platform in the first place. Don't know why.

[OlafS3]

As I understand it the price of the Cyrrus boards will be not much different (cheaper) compared to X1000. The price will not come down as long as it is not produced in bigger volumes and I cannot imagine that this will happen because it is risky for A-eon. More propably they will produce small batches as it happened with X1000 but this does not make the cost/unit lower. And a volume of thousands for such a expensive device? Trevor should have paid for a port to f.e. ARM or develop a cheaper and better system that attracts more users. New overprized computers make no sense to me. And for which market are the new Cyrrus-Boards? Most AmigaOS-fans who have the money and were willing to spend have already bought one. Perhaps some will replace the X1000 with the new Cyrrus and some will buy it additionally but how many are that?

[spirantho]

The Cyrus' CPU is much cheaper....

[Rob]

As I understand it the price of the Cyrrus boards will be not much different (cheaper) compared to X1000. The price will not come down as long as it is not produced in bigger volumes and I cannot imagine that this will happen because it is risky for A-eon. More propably they will produce small batches as it happened with X1000 but this does not make the cost/unit lower. And a volume of thousands for such a expensive device? Trevor should have paid for a port to f.e. ARM or develop a cheaper and better system that attracts more users. New overprized computers make no sense to me. And for which market are the new Cyrrus-Boards? Most AmigaOS-fans who have the money and were willing to spend have already bought one. Perhaps some will replace the X1000 with the new Cyrrus and some will buy it additionally but how many are that?

What ARM chips were available in 2009 for them to build a board around and it would still result in an expensive custom board and it might cost more to add things like PCIe which I suspect isn't common on the ARM platform today let alone in 2009.  Would those 2009 ARM chips still be readily available today and at what price?  Would it even be faster than a Sam460?

[OlafS3]

What ARM chips were available in 2009 for them to build a board around and it would still result in an expensive custom board and it might cost more to add things like PCIe which I suspect isn't common on the ARM platform today let alone in 2009.  Would those 2009 ARM chips still be readily available today and at what price?  Would it even be faster than a Sam460?

I do not talk about X1000 and 2009. I did understand to a certain degree that Trevor wanted to create the X1000 as fastest possible AmigaOS system. But I do not understand why creating another expensive successor.

But at the end it is only hobby  :-)

Happy new year 2014 to all

[Everblue]

If someone is happy splashing money on the Amiga (and I don't mean the users), whey not spend some of it to create some good quality, original, commercial software? What is the point of buying a new Amiga system if you end up using Linux ports?

[JohnFante]

But at the end it is only hobby  :-)

So true :-)

[Iggy]

The Cyrus' CPU is much cheaper....

No, actually its still pretty expensive, the PA6T just costs more.
You don't see a cheaper e5500 cored cpu until you get to the 1.4GHz T1 cpus (like the two core T1022 or four core T1042).

And I doubt the Cyrus will be significantly cheaper.

Look to Acube for new designs that feature lower cost, more modest performing cpus.

You want cheap?
Buy a G5 Mac - like mine (and then of course you'll need another OS).

And I completely support Trevor and a-eon's enterprise.
You can't stay in business without charging a price that covers costs.

Another alternative (for lower cost), waiting until MorphOS has a 64bit branch on a more common ISA.

Or you could look for a used Samantha or Pegasos board (the other AmigaOnes, being a little flaky, I'd avoid).

[utri007]

X1000 is sure expensive, there is no logical reason to buy one. But I think that is stupid / unmature say it is idiotic to buy one or something else offensive. I don't see any reason to compare it to any other computer, as it is a hobby machine. Amiga OS4 is hobby OS and every other amigish OS is also, some more that other and some different way than others.

I could have much more stupid hobby, like buying old cars or furnitures They would require more money and wich is most important, more room.

I could buy one, but I woun't at least not before there is full driver support to it. My nerves wouldn't stand to waiting.

[Evillord68]

@Moderation:

The threadtitle is "AmigaONE X1000 Sale Ends 2nd January 2014", but it must be 7th January.
(look first post)

Thanks.

[Thorham]

there is no logical reason to buy one.

Humans aren't all that logical, so who cares?