AmigaONE or Pegasos, which one will it be sir?

[wonea]

AmigaONE or Pegasos?  Which one?  I'm tempted by the AmigaONE motherboard, but the Pegasos looks so good!  Are Amiga Inc delaying the OS to write drivers?

[nOw2]

Whichever arrives first and runs a decent operating system.

[MAD]

Hoya!

I am more an AONE person myself.

Anyway, i'll need a coupla years before having the money, so...

Be funky

M A D

[strobe]

Amiga Inc. isn't delaying anything, they're just way, way behind.

The only public demonstration of their developments was AmigaOS3.x with some AOS4 technologies running on a A4000. You can simulate the experience by running your Amiga in 320 mode then pouring iron filings on the motherboard.

The AmigaOne has ONLY been demonstrated in two forms:

1) Dead on arrival

2) Running Linux/PPC

I would be tempted to buy an AmigaOne IF it was running AmigaOS and not before. I'm extremely wary of the Amiga partnership and their tactics and I expect them to say something like "Buy the AmigaOne and support AmigaOS 4 development". I'm not going to fall for that!

Furthermore the AmigaOne has the G3 processor soldered on the board.

Pegasos isn't much more impressive hardware-wise except that:

1) It's been working for a lot longer. AmigaOne only recently got a working bootloader.

2) It has a processor slot so you can get a dual G4 afterwards if you want.

3) It has built-in firewire ports. Given the benchmarks from the Mac universe, built-in firewire ports outperform firewire interface PCi cards.

My dream is still running MorphOS on something better like a Titanium Powerbook, but I might buy the Pegasos anyway.

The AmigaOne doesn't interest me in the least. Amiga Inc. isn't anywhere close to running a new OS on new hardware.

[Kronos]

@strobe

You've just created a 100+ comments-thread !

Happy :destroy:  :flame:  :quickdraw:  :whack:  :griping:  :madashell:  :ranting:

[anarchic_teapot]

strobe wrote:

Furthermore the AmigaOne has the G3 processor soldered on the board.

Only the G3SE. The XE has a swappable carrier, capable of holding up to 3 processors simultaneously.

Amiga Inc. isn't anywhere close to running a new OS on new hardware.

Ah, so you're better informed than everyone on the AmigaOne dev list are you? Do let us into the secret of your superior knowledge.

Furrfu.

[strobe]

Only the SE will be available December. At the Finnish Amiga demo the XE wouldn't work and no explanation was given (like the ROM wasn't updated or something). No timeline has been given for the XE so I'm not even considering buying one.

As for the AOS4 timeline, I don't have superior knowledge, merely superior ability to use logic. The only thing AOS4-related which was demonstrated was a really buggy 3.x/4 hybrid which ran on a friggin A4000. Assuming Hyperion is sane, if they had something better to demonstrate at the time they would have. Furthermore none of the Amiga partners have claimed to find a silver bullet to bypass the long and tedious process of porting an OS to a completely new platform which has a new interrupt controller, north bridge, sough bridge, memory controller, ISA/ABI, etc. The only thing they have done lately is brag that they finished exec. Well woop de do!

AOS4 isn't finished now, and even if it was it will take a long time before it's stable on new hardware, say 2004.

I don't have special knowledge, I can see the bloody forrest from the trees!

[Kronos]

The XE has a swappable carrier, capable of holding up to 3 processors simultaneously.

From the horses mouth (MAI that is):

MegArray 300 Connector: supports single PowerPC? 750CX, PowerPC? 750FX, or MPC74XX       compatible processor, as well as dual PowerPC? 750FX or MPC74XX processors up to 133 MHz CPU bus speed

Noone will EVER build a 3-CPU-system, cos it just doesn't make any sense.

OS4 isn't even running in an alpha-state on the CS_PPC (Hyperion would
have shown that AFAP if the could), and saying that a really working
version for the A1 "isn't anywhere close" is just commeon logic.

[hnl_dk]

I'm going for the AmigaOne-XE :-D

AmigaOne or none ;-)

@Rose
I hope you enjoy betatesting the beast (AmigaOneG3-SE) - and hopefully AmigaOS4.0Beta ;-)

[Kay]

Well, since AmigaOS4 has not yet been confirmed for Pegasos, AmigaOne
is the only real choice for me.

Kay

[zacman]

>Ah, so you're better informed than everyone on the
>AmigaOne dev list are you? Do let us into the
>secret of your superior knowledge.

Well the AmigaOne didn't run at the last 4 fairs where it was demoed...

[Doobrey]

AmigaOne or Pegasos huh?

 Well, I won`t make my mind up until I`ve seen both in their final retail state, there`s too much FUD flying from supporters on bother sides to get a clear view right now.

Also, I like coding (mostly just pratting about and learning) so the developer support available will play a big role in making my mind up.

On the note of developer support, I just hope the SDK for either system is cheaper than the AmigaDE SDK.

[KapitanKlystron]

@Strobe
Boy you are a one note horn. 20+ plus posts of sheer vitriol about the AOne. What's the matter you A**hole? Let me guess, you couldn't find www.Pegasos.org.  The only thing you have done is fire on Amiga inc. Are you sure you don't work for MS?

[Radfoo]

I like the idea of the A1 best, I will buy it when its released. Pegasos will have to be a big success to persude me to buy it.

Well, I won`t make my mind up until I`ve seen both in their final retail state

You can buy a Pegasos with MorphOS in it's beta-stage right now...

as for the A1 ...who the heck knows...
I dont consider AOS4 running emulated or whatever on an A4000T to be a product....
Isnt AOS4 subject to it's own legal issues with haage and partner anyway?...
I dunno why everyone focuses on the AOS4/MOS said FUD ...when there is FUD about the AOS4/Haage&Partner thing anyway.

get a Pegasos ...you can get one NOW... then sell it if/when the A1 arrives(wich will no doubt be a ways off and you wont be bound by the no-sell clause) ...
next week I'll be posting my first thread useing MOS/Pegasos woohooooo you know you want it.