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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: colin419 on June 09, 2009, 12:20:27 AM
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I would love to see more modern games on amiga as im a game fan but also to show that the amiga can do it.
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Yes I would also love to see some new games, and ones that I would enjoy playing would be even better.
What do you mean by an Amiga though and what do you mean by modern games?
If you're talking classic AGA, then it's not going to handle a port of any game of the past 10 odd years because they are all in 3D.
It would be nice to see some more ports to Amiga OS 4.1 though, that would be cool.
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No i mean games for the new amiga's running OS4.1
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Games like C&C kanes wrath call of duty 4 and so on.
they would be the kind of games i would love to see on the amiga.
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No i mean games for the new amiga's running OS4.1
"This forum is dedicated to games software and solutions for the Commodore Amiga computer."
You know, the REAL Amiga?
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Yeah i know i just wanted to know if anyone wanted to see more games for the amiga.
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Not the "real Amiga" BS again.
Anyway, there are already ports of Quake I-III, C&C Red Alert, and a number of others available for Amiga OS 4. These are getting old, but they're much more modern than most 68k games.
I'd like to see more modern games, which is one of the reasons that I've been working on improving MiniGL over the last year or so. We've seen a few new games, but I'm hoping that there's more coming. We're still dealing with the limitations of existing 3D drivers though.
Hans
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i still enjoy playing red alert, even a spot of alien breed 3d from time to time.
now that you mention quake 2 can you still buy it?
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By the way cool site hans
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I think what OS 4.1 needs is not so much ports of the latest mainstream games but some fun unique modern games of it's own.
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If FPS (new ones) could end up working on the Amiga, I just might buy a new system. I don't necessarily mean ports, but along the lines of Quake 4, DOOM 3, Crysis..... I don't ask much, do I?
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i still enjoy playing red alert, even a spot of alien breed 3d from time to time.
now that you mention quake 2 can you still buy it?
No idea. I've never looked.
By the way cool site hans
Thanks.
Hans
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I think I would rather just see more Amiga-style games.
The nice high res 2D stuff.
You cant get the atmosphere of Shadow of the Beast in 3D.
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I would love to see more modern games on amiga as im a game fan but also to show that the amiga can do it.
Same here. Porting For Profit is making OS4 ports of open source games, the one I'm working on now is Trigger (http://happypenguin.org/show?Trigger), but it will take a while before I'll finish the port, I need to debug it using the Linux version to compare how some portions of code behave. There are more nice games out that still need to be ported, too.
P.S. the "Commodore Amiga" part is odd, it means that it's not meant even for Amiga Technologies' Amigas? ;)
Varthall
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"This forum is dedicated to games software and solutions for the Commodore Amiga computer."
You know, the REAL Amiga?
Read the site TOS etc
This site is for all amigas and relevant and derivatives of. If you don't like it please keep it to your self.
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I think I would rather just see more Amiga-style games.
The nice high res 2D stuff.
You cant get the atmosphere of Shadow of the Beast in 3D.
I agree. When I first caught the subject heading of this thread, I thought it would be nice if there were more ports of classic gaming to Amiga. Getting back into the 8-bit stuff (which I believe are some of the best games ever), I'd love to see Amiga ports of:
Montezuma's Revenge
Pinball Construction Set (EA was supposed to release this)
Conan
Miner 2049'er
Star League Baseball
...and any other 2D game that relied more on its gameplay than useless fancy visuals. I swear too that often times, the gameplay on 8-bit (Atari and Commodore) seems tighter. More playable and snappier somehow. There was an evolution of sorts going on (not as drastic as the N64 3D debacle) back in the late 80's/early 90's that left a bad taste in my mouth computer gaming wise. Sure, the Amiga has a lot of great games, but not enough of the older type classics as listed above. And the few decent ports that have been made (Donkey Kong comes to mind) lack in gameplay and feel. Guess that's why we need to keep our 8-bits around! lol
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I think what OS 4.1 needs is not so much ports of the latest mainstream games but some fun unique modern games of it's own.
Moderns incarnations of old classics wold be cool, like rick dangerous
or cannon fodder with more modern graphics :laughing:
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Moderns incarnations of old classics wold be cool, like rick dangerous
or cannon fodder with more modern graphics :laughing:
There is a modern incarnation of an old AmigaOS1.2 game "Millenium 2.2" (spelling wrong on the game title when released for the original and I think the new version too), but it is only for Windows. It was written in Blitz Basic for a coding competition by a pair of guys and is fantastic, but the judges silently accused the pair of cheating, because they did not believe it could have been done in the short three days allowed for the competition, so it did not win. That pissed off the pair of coders so much, they have been slow to write any bug fixes, or improvements to is since it was first written, but I did find them and sent some correspondence back and forth to them trying to get the source code so I could port it back to the AmigaOS4.1 and MorphOS2.2. They have not agreed to let me have the source, but I have hopes that they will relent and give it to me in the future, unless they go back to work on it and release it commercially.
It can be found as a free download, but I can't remember where I found it and I can't pass on the version I have on my hard drive, because the guys that wrote it did do a small bit of bug fixing on it after I wrote to them and they sent me a new .exe file to replace the one in the download and I had to promise them I would not share it with anyone.
I hope some of you can find it and enjoy the remake of Millenium 2.2, as it is a fine game with great graphics and animation sequences that will blow you away when you see them (compared to anything you have seen in an Amiga game in the past).
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I think what OS 4.1 needs is not so much ports of the latest mainstream games but some fun unique modern games of it's own.
dont get me wrong im all for new unique games for our beloved amiga, games that no other platform has but if people see these more modern games on the amiga and they see how good the OS is they just mite decide to come to the amiga side:)
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I would love to see more modern games on amiga as im a game fan but also to show that the amiga can do it.
I'd love to see NEW "modern" games for the new AmigaOS 4.1 and hardware but I'm not interested in clones of PC games. I'd like to see some new fresh Amgia gamed dev bring some new games with the classic platform flair of the Amiga out. Some of the classics with modern graphics would be something I'd pay for. I'd even buy a Sam with OS 4.1 if there were even say 5 brand new Amiga style games with a modern flair.
That's just me - a lot of others have crossed over to just doing first person shooters and RPGs. I reallly like the old school platformers, etc.
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I think what OS 4.1 needs is not so much ports of the latest mainstream games but some fun unique modern games of it's own.
Of course. Amiga never got anywhere by playing copycat -- and it never will. But given the enormous human resources that go into producing original "modern games" (many of which are less fun than classics, IMO), who is going to produce such a game for Amiga? It would have to be either an act of charity or an act of love to do so.
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Everyone wants new games for their Amigas but no one wants to actually make them. Games don't just make themselves, and you're dreaming if you think big developers are going to make new games or port modern games to Amiga.
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Everyone wants new games for their Amigas but no one wants to actually make them. Games don't just make themselves, and you're dreaming if you think big developers are going to make new games or port modern games to Amiga.
The closest we will see to that is Amiga-esque games on the 360, Wii and PS3 in the online shop.
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you never know maybe hyperion will port some more games:)
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Everyone wants new games for their Amigas but no one wants to actually make them. Games don't just make themselves, and you're dreaming if you think big developers are going to make new games or port modern games to Amiga.
Speaking of which, how is your classic game project coming along?
Hans
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I'm new to the Amiga but I know that new classic games are being created by users and such for classic consoles like the Vectrex etc... I have actually bought these carts and played them. I'm such a sad case:( lol
LoBai
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I'm new to the Amiga but I know that new classic games are being created by users and such for classic consoles like the Vectrex etc... I have actually bought these carts and played them. I'm such a sad case:( lol
LoBai
Dont worry your not sad i had a vectrex it was a great system:)
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I'm new to the Amiga but I know that new classic games are being created by users and such for classic consoles like the Vectrex etc... I have actually bought these carts and played them. I'm such a sad case:( lol
LoBai
you're not a sad case!
I am only 21 and I program on Commodore 64s and stuff for fun, and buy homebrew stuff.
I agree. When I first caught the subject heading of this thread, I thought it would be nice if there were more ports of classic gaming to Amiga. Getting back into the 8-bit stuff (which I believe are some of the best games ever), I'd love to see Amiga ports of:
Montezuma's Revenge
Pinball Construction Set (EA was supposed to release this)
Conan
Miner 2049'er
Star League Baseball
...and any other 2D game that relied more on its gameplay than useless fancy visuals. I swear too that often times, the gameplay on 8-bit (Atari and Commodore) seems tighter. More playable and snappier somehow. There was an evolution of sorts going on (not as drastic as the N64 3D debacle) back in the late 80's/early 90's that left a bad taste in my mouth computer gaming wise. Sure, the Amiga has a lot of great games, but not enough of the older type classics as listed above. And the few decent ports that have been made (Donkey Kong comes to mind) lack in gameplay and feel. Guess that's why we need to keep our 8-bits around! lol
I am entertaining the idea of porting my PC Engine game to the Amiga when completed (Its a clone of Berzerk), but I'd first need to locate the proper Amiga libraries and stuff. Im a total Amiga n00b, but if there are some C game libraries for the Amiga, it might be doable!
I could even put together MOD versions of the PSG music.
Im getting C programming setup on the AmiKit I setup. I have an environment .hdf but id like to get GCC/stuff working in AmiKit instead of booting into a separate environment.
I think keeping games true to the system itself is alot cooler than back-porting newer games just to see...
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I'd love to see Crusader no Remorse on the A500.
It should be possible, with a resolution like 320*200, and some loss of detail.
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I think I would rather just see more Amiga-style games.
The nice high res 2D stuff.
You cant get the atmosphere of Shadow of the Beast in 3D.
Well, maybe nowadays it can, with 3d engines which are capable of showing detailed sceneries in 3d (you know, used a lot with sandbox games)
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I'm all for any new games. Somebody makes one, I will buy it. I haven't made the plunge and bought a Sam just yet but I was wondering does anyone know how many games there are that work on the Samiga w/ OS4.1.
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Same here. Porting For Profit is making OS4 ports of open source games, the one I'm working on now is Trigger (http://happypenguin.org/show?Trigger), but it will take a while before I'll finish the port, I need to debug it using the Linux version to compare how some portions of code behave. There are more nice games out that still need to be ported, too.
just checked it,looks cool:)
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Same here. Porting For Profit is making OS4 ports of open source games, the one I'm working on now is Trigger (http://happypenguin.org/show?Trigger), but it will take a while before I'll finish the port, I need to debug it using the Linux version to compare how some portions of code behave. There are more nice games out that still need to be ported, too.
P.S. the "Commodore Amiga" part is odd, it means that it's not meant even for Amiga Technologies' Amigas? ;)
Varthall
Just checked out trigger, looks good:)
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Speaking of which, how is your classic game project coming along?
Hans
I guess you mean Halloween Nightmare? The story, characters, level design and graphics are all coming along nicely, unfortunately we still haven't found someone to code the main game engine and can't afford to pay the composer we want to do the music for the game. It will be a great game when it's finished, but we either need more people helping out or donations to get it going faster. I've been thinking of selling my old games consoles and a few comic book collections to gather some funds to put towards paying a coder or composer. It's hard when everyone on our team is unemployed :(
And even if we don't sell many copies, we're still going to keep making more Amiga games. We're in it for the long run!
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I guess you mean Halloween Nightmare? The story, characters, level design and graphics are all coming along nicely, unfortunately we still haven't found someone to code the main game engine and can't afford to pay the composer we want to do the music for the game. It will be a great game when it's finished, but we either need more people helping out or donations to get it going faster. I've been thinking of selling my old games consoles and a few comic book collections to gather some funds to put towards paying a coder or composer. It's hard when everyone on our team is unemployed :(
And even if we don't sell many copies, we're still going to keep making more Amiga games. We're in it for the long run!
what old game consoles are we talkin about here? :afro:
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what old game consoles are we talkin about here? :afro:
PAL ones, sorry. I have a few Sega Master Systems, Mega Drives, NES and SNESs, and a fair collection of games for them. I really don't want to part with them all, but some of it can be sold, and I have no other way of earning money at the moment.
I have several PAL NES games like the Super Mario Bros, Zelda and Mega Man games, and a Boxing Game & Watch to sell too.
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Hello amigans,
since some of the issues brought up in this thread are particularly dear to me, I thought I might share my opinion...
Since the Amiga market is so little, producing new games is basically a work of love. Unfortunately, since making games is very demanding and since everybody has to carry on with life, it isn't surprising that there's lack of games. I'm sure many would just love to make games for the Amiga platforms.
But I guess I'm stating the obvious.
As regards creating modern-looking games: are you really sure that, f.ex., Lionheart or The Chaos Engine would look better in a higher resolution? More in general, are you sure that using all the latest technologies automatically means better technical quality? What I want to say is: don't be fooled! Modern technologies are nice and all, but also old techniques have their beauty and value, and it's a pity to forget them.
(I'm thinking of the visual aspect).
Finally, as regards the oldkool gameplay: that's another thing that has been forgotten. Games, with all the due exceptions, tend to be empty shells. Not just for lack of ideas (it's hard to innovate nowadays), but also because game makers wrongly think that impressing people is what really counts, that the core of the gaming experience revolves around senses. But that's false. And games tend to be shallow, to provide just superficial pleasure. Also, I have a feeling that sometimes games are made to last little, so that the gamer has to buy another one. What the good ol' times games did was to involve and challenge greatly the gamer's intellect, patience, endurance, determination and so on, ultimately giving him/her an entertaining and deeply rewarding experience. I call it the no-pain-no-gain phylosophy, as opposed to today's gain-without-pain one.
It's a complex matter and I'm so tired that I'm not sure I expressed my thoughts conveniently, so I'll stop it here.
In the end, allow me a shameless plug: BOH (http://www.bohthegame.com) seems to meet some/all of the requirements of some of you partecipating to this discussion: it's new, it's for the Amiga, it's oldskool... have you tried it yet? ;)
saimo
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i like to see more expansion pack support for the following
freespace SILENT THREAT
QUAKE 2 mission packs
also why no port of HEXEN II?
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PAL ones, sorry. I have a few Sega Master Systems, Mega Drives, NES and SNESs, and a fair collection of games for them. I really don't want to part with them all, but some of it can be sold, and I have no other way of earning money at the moment.
I have several PAL NES games like the Super Mario Bros, Zelda and Mega Man games, and a Boxing Game & Watch to sell too.
oh... i have all that stuff >_< NTSC-style.
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Cammy,
get a job at Maccas or Woolies. They are always hiring.
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Heads up, it's edutainment. Take a look:___>:hammer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4x07bUzyyg&feature=fvhl