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Offline AcillTopic starter

New HD Issues
« on: September 04, 2016, 06:13:47 AM »
I recently received an ACARD (IDE to SCSI Interface) and installed a new 60GB SSD drive on it. It works find, is detected and I can partition it. I set it as 2X 2.0GB and the other two are spit with the remaining. All good there. I set the first two intended to be my system and backup as SFS, and the other two non bootable as Work1 and Work2 as PFS.

When I save and reboot it wont let my system boot any longer. So I took it out, wiped it out again, and started over. Same problem. One more try and I left them as FFS. No problem this time.

Question is, am I missing something trying to set 2 partitions as SPS and the other two as PFS?

I have a 17GB SCSI in now set up this way and want to duplicate it so I can replace it with this new SSD.
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Offline Thomas

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2016, 08:36:58 AM »
Quote from: Acill;813477
When I save and reboot it wont let my system boot any longer.


More details needed. What happens exactly?

Offline Oldsmobile_Mike

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2016, 01:49:43 PM »
Probably a dumb question but why are you mixing file systems on the same drive?
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Offline AcillTopic starter

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2016, 02:30:54 PM »
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Probably a dumb question but why are you mixing file systems on the same drive?


Good question, I just wanted to duplicate what was on the drive I have now. I cant remember why I used this scheme. Whats the better file system to use for a large drive like this? PFS seems fine, just know FFS isnt great for large drives.

As far as what happens, I can cold or warm reset and the same things happens. I hear the machine kick on, I get the black screen and indivision logo shows up, and it repeats. Never boots to the original system drive and I cant get to early start menu.

Take the drive out or pull power off it and all is as it was before I put it on.
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Offline mechy

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2016, 03:55:49 PM »
Quote from: Acill;813493
Good question, I just wanted to duplicate what was on the drive I have now. I cant remember why I used this scheme. Whats the better file system to use for a large drive like this? PFS seems fine, just know FFS isnt great for large drives.

As far as what happens, I can cold or warm reset and the same things happens. I hear the machine kick on, I get the black screen and indivision logo shows up, and it repeats. Never boots to the original system drive and I cant get to early start menu.

Take the drive out or pull power off it and all is as it was before I put it on.


Did you remember to check the box for bootable on the boot partition in hdtoolbox?
maybe a non boot partition has a higher priority and it defaults to it? go into early startup and try selecting the boot drive and boot.
There is probably no reason to mix pfs/sfs, i would just pick one if i were you. either should work well.
 

Offline AcillTopic starter

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2016, 04:18:19 PM »
Quote from: mechy;813495
Did you remember to check the box for bootable on the boot partition in hdtoolbox?
maybe a non boot partition has a higher priority and it defaults to it? go into early startup and try selecting the boot drive and boot.
There is probably no reason to mix pfs/sfs, i would just pick one if i were you. either should work well.

Tried both ways, bootable and non bootable. I think I need to set my priority better. Here is how it is now.

DH0: 0
DH1: -4
DF0: 5

Any tips on how to get the 4 new drives to not be ahead of the originals? My plan is to name them the same as the old drives only putting NEW after it so I can copy the old content over and rename them after I pull the old drive out. I'll then copy the old drives boot priority to the new drives.
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Offline Thomas

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2016, 04:25:10 PM »
Quote from: Acill;813493
As far as what happens, I can cold or warm reset and the same things happens. I hear the machine kick on, I get the black screen and indivision logo shows up, and it repeats. Never boots to the original system drive and I cant get to early start menu.



Most likely it tries to boot from one of the new partitions but it is not readable (yet).

Make sure that your old boot partition keeps the highest boot priority until the new partitions are ready.

Also don't forget to add the third-party file systems to the new drive (Add/Update in HDToolbox).

Offline AcillTopic starter

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2016, 05:11:55 PM »
Quote from: Thomas;813497
Most likely it tries to boot from one of the new partitions but it is not readable (yet).

Make sure that your old boot partition keeps the highest boot priority until the new partitions are ready.

Also don't forget to add the third-party file systems to the new drive (Add/Update in HDToolbox).

Can someone list out the priority numbers in order for me so I can set them. I for the life of me cant figure out which is the proper order. My boot drive now is at 0, I have a second at -4.
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Offline Thomas

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2016, 09:59:09 PM »
Not sure what you want to see. The boot priority is a number between -127 and +127. DF0 is at 5, DF1 at -10. Your boot partitions should be between that. The one with the highest value will boot. If two drives have the same priority, the one which is found first will boot.

The early startup menu lists all boot drives in their priority order. The topmost will be the boot drive unless you select another one.

Offline AcillTopic starter

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2016, 11:00:23 PM »
Quote from: Thomas;813503
Not sure what you want to see. The boot priority is a number between -127 and +127. DF0 is at 5, DF1 at -10. Your boot partitions should be between that. The one with the highest value will boot. If two drives have the same priority, the one which is found first will boot.

The early startup menu lists all boot drives in their priority order. The topmost will be the boot drive unless you select another one.

Yes, but are negative numbers considered higher than positive?

For example:
Drive 0 is set to -1
Drive 1 is set to 0
and drive 3 is set to 1

which is considered the highest? -1, 0 or 1?

I ask because mine do not seem to be working as they should with relative numbers. DH0 for me is 0 and it boots first and shows 2nd in my list after DF0 which is 5 and you mentioned. I also have another bootable partition at -4 that is after my DH0, and that is DH1.
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Offline kolla

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2016, 12:28:14 AM »
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Offline AcillTopic starter

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2016, 12:57:37 AM »
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Thanks Kolla, will try to set them all up again and see how it goes.
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Offline kolla

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2016, 07:12:55 AM »
You can also check out this piece of software:

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/bootctrl

Though it is all about VGA modes in its advertising, it can also be used to set temporary set boot priority, disable drives etc for the next warm boot, just like you can from early startup menus.
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Offline paul1981

Re: New HD Issues
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2016, 09:04:06 AM »
And also, setting the priority above 5 for one of your boot partitions will mean that your Amiga will no longer try and boot from your floppy drive first (unless you select it manually).