www.anubis-os.org finally open

[trekiej]

How does Anubis compare to Syllable?

[yakumo9275]

da9000 wrote:
You obviously never programmed in/with Objective-C.

Of course, you know every language I've ever programmed in, so it must be true!

da9000 wrote:
Clue: Objective-C wasn't created by Apple, so there's no sucking apple-loving-juice. The genius we should thank for it is Brad J. Cox (http://www.virtualschool.edu/cox/)

CLUE: I never said it was created by Apple.
But Apple are the only ones using it. Of course, if its apple promoted it must be sheer AWESOMENESS.

da9000 wrote:
Yeah, right. Please come out of whatever rock you live in.

You mean the real world that I live in?

da9000 wrote:
If you haven't noticed Apple's ascent and the proliferation of iPhone applications, then there's not much point discussing things, but just in case: there are tens of thousands of iPhone developers, and most are doing Obj-C stuff. And of course there are more and more Mac OS X developers each day. And in fact, most of them, at least to me, seem very talented.

I guess all those tens of thousands of iphone developers are releasing open source and just dieing to jump on the anubis band wagon.

So with all those rocking hot cool iphone developers floating around the place, why hasnt GNU Step taken over the world...

Since there is a metric {bleep}tonne more obj-c coders than c or c++ around I guess anubis will just pop up complete in a couple of months right?

Everyone must be dieing to line up to to come hack on a gnustep distribution.

As I stated in my op and other posts I think the milestone 1 is interesting and I still think basing it on linux kernel is the proper thing to do, I just dont think obj-c was the best choice.

[takemehomegrandma]

Piru wrote:
@dammy

EUAE will be integrated for those who want it.

How?

I've yet to see any sensible plan on how exactly that is supposed to happen. This thing has been talked about for years while nothing tangible has come out of it so far.

He probably meant "bundled" and not "integrated" in the *true* meaning of the latter word...?

[ferrellsl]

@jj

AmigaOS 4.1 will not be ported to x86.

I have more predictions if you're interested.

[ferrellsl]

@trekiej

It doesn't compare because Anubis doesn't yet exist and probably never will.

[trekiej]

That does not mean we can not look at planned specs.

[mdv2000]

On but also off the subject too is that Objective-C sucks!

I have been develop applications for the Mac OS X (including iPhone tools) for over 2 years and I have never programmed in a more aggravating language/environment.
XCode as a tool is good (as long as you don't compare the editor to Visual Studio or Delphi) - but using Objective-C is torture for a C/C++/Java/C# Programmer. Also, it is very much more obscure than those languages, so online reference and help isn't readily available unless you are a paid Mac SDK subscriber. (Free stuff very limited).

I am currently looking at porting/rewriting my applications to Lazarus

Lazarus also works on Linux and Windows - It really is just an Open Source version of Delphi!

If AROS supported Lazarus, I would be writing Lazarus apps like crazy.  I have gotten AROS to run in VirtualBox nicely and very impressed with the progress it has made over the last few years.


What we are all dreaming of is a modern OS that has the simplicity and intuitiveness that the AmigaOS had.  I was 14 in 1987 when I got my Amiga and I picked it up quickly.
 
I never had to deal with aggravation of getting things to work like I did in my first PC Clone - a 486DX2-66 HP in 1994.  Windows 3.11 in 1994 to me seemed so clunky and over complicated.  That is why to this day I love the AmigaOS and hope something like AROS makes it.

I thought Linux would do that, but since they are fighting Apple to become the "Pretty" desktop OS, they are getting more aggravating/clunky.  Heaven forbid you have to change something after the default install that isn't included in a Wizard utility or you need to do something on a command line!

Later,

[persia]

Yawn,  come back when you have an operating system and we'll see.  The Amiga world is full of empty promises and non-existent products.  Give me something I can load on a computer and I'll try it, until then it's safest to consider it vapour.

[Manu]

@persia
What do you mean? It isn't like the Anubis team was here and said they have a demo ready tomorrow. The site is for now only info about what they are up to.  :roll:

[takemehomegrandma]

ferrellsl wrote:
@trekiej

It doesn't compare because Anubis doesn't yet exist and probably never will.

I think you may be a little over confident in that sentence. It's not like they will start from absolute scratch (like MorphOS did, which despite this has grown quite mature today). To me it sounds like they have the core from Linux, they will probably take a lot from AROS, and then develop some new to fill the gaps. Sure, it will still be a lot of work for the few guys involved, but I don't think it is an impossible mission. I'm not holding my breath though, but I'll keep my eyes open for the first mile stone release...

[persia]

As I said, I'm happy to take a look at anything they might develop, but let's see something before we get our knickers wet.

I presume the demo will be a VMWare image?

[Tension]

sim085 wrote:
Hello,

The project looks very interesting. However I have a question. What is in AmigaOS which is worth saving when compared to Linux, Windows, BSD, etc? I was going to start a thread on this but I think it does fit here.

I understand that the structure of all these Operating Systems is different. So what does AmigaOS (or any of its variants) have as a pro when compared to the other Operating Systems, and will these features be included in the new OS?

Regards,
Sim085

Pfft!!!

[sim085]

Tension wrote:
Pfft!!!

... which means?

[Methuselas]

sim085 wrote:

Tension wrote:
Pfft!!!

... which means?

I think that was a fart? :inquisitive:

[yssing]

So how does anubis relate to amige, other than an integrated UAE??

[paolone]

0amigan0 wrote:

@Paolone:

Thats exactly what *I* mean: "I really, sincerely hope this other lets-try-to-resurrect-the-amiga, will NEVER happen !!!

Having said that, u're free to have fun with your AROS.
If u get excited just by going to Google Maps in OWB for AROS, then continue to do so. :-)

Honestly, I've heard smarter comments from my 7-months-old son.  :roll: