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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2011, 03:22:29 PM »
Oh crap - I translated from my native language directly without consulting a dictionary. Funny meaning still.
 

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2011, 03:38:29 PM »
Oh, huzzah, now the PC clones can have stickers on them without paying a licensing fee. HUZZAH, I SAY.
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2011, 04:06:11 PM »
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Well, we got 'mo!
On Dec 22, 2011 Commodore USA, LLC and Amiga Inc. signed a new contract granting us EXCLUSIVE WORLDWIDE rights to ALL format computers branded with the Amiga trademark IP. These registered trademarked logos include the BOING Ball, TIC/Check mark, letter A and the word AMIGA logos. Form factors include, but are not limited to Desktop, HTPC, Tower AIO/ Keyboard etc. This contract will run through Dec 31, 2018, with optional renewals. Additionally we have been granted the right to enforce the Amiga trademark IP, in instances where we feel the trademark property has been either used in an unauthorized manner or in a form not allowed under current international and US law. We look forward to releasing our initial Commodore Amiga branded computers beginning by the end of the first quarter 2012.

Uh, given that Amiga Inc.'s own ownership of those things is in question, you may have have just bought a bridge in Brooklyn...
 

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2011, 04:10:02 PM »
This is an absolute disaster for the community.

The C64x, the most ambitious of all Commodore USA products, is to put it bluntly the bare minimum. The keyboard has no PETSCII decals, is less contoured than the original, there is no way to use ANY C64 related peripherals under emulation (be it real 9 pin joysticks or 1541 replacement SD drives), does not come with a decent OS and is so over priced it makes Alienware PCs look cheap.

Leave it.
 

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2011, 04:57:53 PM »
Enjoy the Amiga curse!. You guys deserve it more then anyone!. I give you 6 months tops.
 

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2011, 05:08:07 PM »
They are still under the impression they can throw a bunch of workstation components in a case that any other company would charge $4,000 for and by virtue of the Amiga name, slap a $5,000 premium on it because it has the Amiga name on it.  The Amiga name has no value to people using commodity high end workstations, sorry - much less the hysterical thought of said workstation PC's coming with Commodore OS, LOL.  The Toaster days are long gone, sorry.

They can't, much less in a HTPC case like they had mocked up, lol.  I'm not sure if they put much thought into how that HTPC case would become a microwave over with a couple CPU's and Quadro cards in it, not that they would fit anyways.

Personally, I'll wait for my Amiga boing ball branded bathroom fixtures.  That's where the big cash cow lies, boys.
 

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2011, 05:13:52 PM »
Quote from: digitex;673599
Additionally we have been granted the right to enforce the Amiga trademark IP, in instances where we feel the trademark property has been either used in an unauthorized manner or in a form not allowed under current international and US law.

Told ya this would happen!
 
I wonder what CUSA will do to those not paying a royalty for using the BOING Ball, TIC/Check mark, letter A and the word AMIGA logos on their websites or other uses such as merchandise.
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2011, 05:22:59 PM »
All this does not mean they can now go after Hyperion and Aeon again for use of the AmigaOne and AmigaOS names, can they?

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2011, 05:28:27 PM »
So nobody can use the letter "A"? :D
 

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2011, 05:35:25 PM »
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It's good that all the Commodore and Amiga branding is united under one roof again.....

.. as long as the names aren't just used to stick on generic PCs as leverage to sell machines anyway.


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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2011, 05:43:56 PM »
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All this does not mean they can now go after Hyperion and Aeon again for use of the AmigaOne and AmigaOS names, can they?

tj


Nope. That's already been settled, they can't be tried again, it'd just be thrown out of court.

Plus I seriously doubt C=USA either have the money to go through such a court case, or to be stupid enough to try, given the fact that it's already been decided in Hyperion's favour (and before anyone pipes up saying Hyperion didn't win, it was quite obvious that Hyperion had the stronger case otherwise Amiga Inc wouldn't have capitulated so easily - that's as good as winning).
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2011, 07:06:21 PM »
Support AROS sponsor a developer.

edited by mod: this has been addressed
 

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2011, 07:18:53 PM »
So that's a big annoucement for them? ....ooooo...kaayy...  Now what?

A company selling fake 64s and planning to build fake Amigas buying the rights from a company doing absolutely nothing...  Wow! bright future ahead...

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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2011, 07:21:37 PM »
Did AInc really capitulate or did they just found a way of getting what they wanted (being able to licence "teh name" to someone else) without further cost ?

Hyperion having a stronger case ??? Wasn't it something around:
"Since we didn't fullfill our part of the contract(s) we now demand that we are allowed to pull a clause that has been illegal from day one (read reordering creditors)"

The whole court case was a complete mess from both sides and the quality of the settling wasn't much better, so yes I'm quite sure a good lawyer could find a loophole allowing NotC=USA  to sue Hyperion over the use of the Amiga-trademarks.

Do I think they will go down that way ? *shrug* ..... but I sure keep a king-size bucket of popcorn ready just in case ;)
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Re: Commodore trademark has a new daddy
« Reply #29 from previous page: December 30, 2011, 07:24:41 PM »
Quote from: amigasociety;673634
All this does not mean they can now go after Hyperion and Aeon again for use of the AmigaOne and AmigaOS names, can they?

tj


I shouldn't think so, logos form part of the settlement between Hyperion and Inc.
I'm not sure on A-eon, if they have acquired the AmigaOne name somehow from
Hyperion, are if it was transferred from Eyetec who were granted the original rights
from Ainc.