Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: OctaMED tutorials  (Read 8476 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline SamuraiCrow

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Feb 2002
  • Posts: 2280
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
    • Show only replies by SamuraiCrow
Re: OctaMED tutorials
« Reply #14 from previous page: September 11, 2006, 04:35:21 AM »
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/MED_Soundstudio_Amiga/ is the official mailing list/Yahoo group for Amiga's versions of MED Soundstudio.  Assuming you select to have emails sent to your inbox, it will send instructions on how to download the latest 68k version of MED Soundstudio as well as a link to the Amigaguide instruction file as soon as you sign up.
 

Offline TheGoose

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2002
  • Posts: 1458
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
    • Show only replies by TheGoose
    • http://www.amiga.org/forums/blog.php?u=827
Re: OctaMED tutorials
« Reply #15 on: September 11, 2006, 05:48:58 PM »
I had a printed manual (still looking for it...) for OctaMED it was really helpful. If I can get my hands on it I'll scan it / PDF it.

Anyone else have a copy of this? Was small, orange cover I think, sprial bound.
G1200, A3000D, A1200 PPC AOS4.0C

I\'m on Google +
 

Offline Karlos

  • Sockologist
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2002
  • Posts: 16867
  • Country: gb
  • Thanked: 4 times
    • Show only replies by Karlos
Re: OctaMED tutorials
« Reply #16 on: September 11, 2006, 10:49:32 PM »
Quote

motorollin wrote:
I've loaded samples in, but I don't know what to do next :-) I understand the matrix of numbers is where you specify the pitch and duration of the samples, but I also need to know how to use effects etc.

--
moto


IMHO, the best way to get used to OctaMED is to load a few existing modules and seeing how the patterns build the music up. I find it's better to deconstruct an existing thing to learn about it than attempt to construct something I have no idea how to implement from scratch ;-)
int p; // A
 

Offline JaXanim

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 1120
    • Show only replies by JaXanim
    • http://www.intuitionbase.com/waveguide/home.html
Re: OctaMED tutorials
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2006, 12:38:45 AM »
@TheGoose

Yes I have it too. It's called 'The Octamed Companion - A Complete Step by Step Tutorial for OctaMed v5'. There's about 220 spring-bound pages of poor quality typed text with a cover that's more of an 'Amiga buff' than orange. Three disks came with it when published by RBF Software in 1993. RBF is Ray Burt-Frost who collaborated with Teijo Kinnunen and many others to create the OctaMed phenomenon.
There is no doubt that this booklet is essential to anyone wishing to understand the complexities of the OctaMed series. You can certainly learn a little by 'reverse engineering' OctaMed modules, but 90% of the codes you see on the player interface are complete gobbledygook without this Tutorial to explain them.
The manual is of course copyrighted, so publishing a PDF version would be naughty. However, how the heck can today's Amigans hope to keep the OctaMed dream alive without bending the rules a little? I wish I had the time to do it, but I don't.
Maybe someone will....

JaX
Be inspired! It\\\'s back!
 

Offline ElZorro

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Join Date: Jan 2006
  • Posts: 166
    • Show only replies by ElZorro
Re: OctaMED tutorials
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2006, 04:47:25 AM »
Quote

@Karlos wrote:
IMHO, the best way to get used to OctaMED is to load a few existing modules and seeing how the patterns build the music up.


That is how I started to! Back in 1994. After years I could get a small list from JaXanim with parameters for the samples. How to increase or degrease volume, pitch bend, and many more.
The only thing I still do not get is how to use special parameters for MIDI! and:
Somehow I can not get all the possible sounds out of my midi supported keyboards/synthersizers!
Any idea?:idea:
Frisby
A1200,int. HD 250MB + ext. HD 2 GB SCSI
Blizzard 1230 Phase IV+SCSI 64 MB RAM
Yamaha PSR-540 + CASIO MT-640
C=64(brown and gray model) & A500
 

Offline TheGoose

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2002
  • Posts: 1458
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
    • Show only replies by TheGoose
    • http://www.amiga.org/forums/blog.php?u=827
Re: OctaMED tutorials
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2006, 02:51:22 PM »
@Jax - Surrender the booklet and no one gets hurts. Make no mistake the ancient text is all powerful as Jax describes. We are nothing without this literature!





  :laugh:
G1200, A3000D, A1200 PPC AOS4.0C

I\'m on Google +
 

Offline Karlos

  • Sockologist
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2002
  • Posts: 16867
  • Country: gb
  • Thanked: 4 times
    • Show only replies by Karlos
Re: OctaMED tutorials
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2006, 09:27:00 PM »
@ElZorro

If your MIDI hardware is anything like mine, you probably have bank MSB / bank LSB messages you can send for a particular channel to select a variation on one of your basic GM sounds.

Alternatively, your hardware might allow NPRN bank selection, though I've never seen it implemeneted.

To be honest, I'm so lazy in that regard I tend to set up everything the way I want it on the hardware, then dump it to octamed and save it as part of the module.
int p; // A
 

Offline Wilse

Re: OctaMED tutorials
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2006, 06:23:05 PM »
Quote

Karlos wrote:

IMHO, the best way to get used to OctaMED is to load a few existing modules and seeing how the patterns build the music up. I find it's better to deconstruct an existing thing to learn about it than attempt to construct something I have no idea how to implement from scratch ;-)


Very good advice. I've done just that several times myself. Good for learning little tricks, etc.

Offline Karlos

  • Sockologist
  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2002
  • Posts: 16867
  • Country: gb
  • Thanked: 4 times
    • Show only replies by Karlos
Re: OctaMED tutorials
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2006, 06:50:18 PM »
I went through a phase where adjusting the track timing cyclically on every quarter beat so that all the even quarters had 7 and all the odd ones had 5 was my favourite effect. It basically gives it a bit of porn groove timing :lol:
int p; // A
 

Offline ShadowHarl

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Join Date: Dec 2006
  • Posts: 1
    • Show only replies by ShadowHarl
Re: OctaMED tutorials
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2006, 09:34:45 AM »
i really hope someone posts that book, i read that Aaron Funk uses octaMED to do his breakcore tracks, so i was really curious to learn it, (stilll not to sure HOW he does it in this) but it is really confusing ish to loook at, althugh seems simple once the main things are learned, but its really hard to learn them ;P
 

Offline xaccrocheur

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2002
  • Posts: 430
    • Show only replies by xaccrocheur
Re: OctaMED tutorials
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2006, 11:08:41 PM »
Quote

ShadowHarl wrote:
(...) i read that Aaron Funk uses octaMED to do his breakcore tracks, (...)


Wow, now this is good music. Did'nt knew this guy. I just listened to the tracks previews on the HPage of his one-man band, "venetiansnares" ; Very good music, I like the sounds, the progressions, the ideas, the energy, wow. Though I'm more into songs, right now, than into pure techno music, I like my stompin" jungle fix :banana: sometimes.
Thank you very much for the information, ShadowHarl.

I made a lot of music w/ Octamed back in the days (mostly hardcore techno, lending to industrial noisy punk) and what got me started was the AF tutorial mentioned elsewhere in this thread. It was no big deal, however, just a quick :

Load a sample from the coverdisk
Make a pattern
Open the PatternList,
Copy the pattern 4 times
Edit notes values to make verses & a chorus
Edit some simple volumes, fades
Save it

:rtfm:

I remember vividly that one KEY info, that I really needed to be at home in the program, was how to manage the patterns in the PatternList (at this time I did'nt knew a *word* in english and I thought that "append" meant something negative like "remove"). :crazy: I was hooked, that was enough to put me on rails. Then I openend and looked w/ great strutiny (is that a word ? I think so) at the innards of *all* the modules I could put my pointer on, and discovered wonders. BTW, I now remember : There *was* a Manual in fact, a huge amigaGuide file that I tried to print on my matrix printer, but stopped at the request of my family, the upstairs neighbour, and the nearby airport, complaining about the noise.
After that I was flying, and making music w/ Octamed, occupied the best part of the two following years. Those were the days, although quite a fuzzy zone of my souvenirs :afro:

There is a song that we made one night in a pro studio where a friend was working, we recorded (on the end of a big customers tape, he never knew, I guess :roll:) a song using TWO A500, hooked via MIDI interfaces in both, syncin *two* 'med sessions with an old Midi ClockBox, after two hours trying to figure out how to do that (clock syncing) into Octamed.

This was, by the way, the day that we started looking seriously towards other HW platforms (at the time 12 bit samplers like the Ensoniq EPS, and the Akai SXXXX, and stupid Pro24, then later Cubase, on stupid Ataris, never got my sound engineers buddies to consider Bars&Pipes, that I got from an AF coverdisk), other than for joking about it) and yes, those are deeply nested parentheses::crazy:) because such a setup (picture the 2 A500s (and their STUPID external MIDI!!!)& the BIG ClockBox) was becoming silly.

The guy with which I made the music salvaged some floppies, I must encode them sometime soon so the world know how much horrid noise can come out of an Amiga 500.
 

Offline xaccrocheur

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jun 2002
  • Posts: 430
    • Show only replies by xaccrocheur
Re: OctaMED tutorials
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2006, 12:00:33 AM »
And as a nice bouncer2my loong reply, I wanted to point you toward one HELL of a valuable ressource if you're into serious music on a dead platform (great creative concept if you ask me) : This guy :bow: took back b&p (source code & everything) under his wings (after Blue Ribbon SoftWorks was bought/killed/buried by guess who), he updated the thing like he totally revamped the patch system, and is now offering it, like it's Xmas ! Talk about abandonware ! :pint: