ADOOM on A600 running 22-35 FPS

[danbeaver]

Off Topic (of what a great demo of the Vampire running Doom):

The A600 is NOT a 32-bit computer.

[ChaosLord]

No.  Wrong.

Bank switching has been around for decades.  Or set it up as a ram disk.  Or a RAD:.  There's ways it could be used.

Also, we were pointing out with humorous over-exaggeration the absurdity of your previous claims that all web browsers/graphics programs/music programs "require" 2GB of memory.  Which is just absolutely ridiculous and not true.

You've got a bad attitude, buddy.  I get that you're some "great programmer" of a game no one can play because they don't have 2GB of memory in their classic systems.  I also understand that you've had a lot of health issues making you grumpy, but I've got metal plates and screws holding my spine together, so I'm pretty grumpy, too, but I still suck it up and play full-contact sports every day.  So if you crawled out from under your rock just to tell people they're "No. Wrong." all the time, you can go back to it.

Whatever, I'm done here.

Dude I wasn't grumpy at you.  Sorry I didn't plaster smileys everywhere.  Here this is just4u

I was just explaining that there are actual logical reasons why people only ask for a couple of gigs of ram for Amigas.

P.S. Bank switching sux.  That isn't grumpy.  That's a fact, jack. :biglaugh:

p.p.s. If I was grumpy I would insult you or at the very least throw in a bunch of exclamation points.  I know how to work the exclamation point key.  Here look I will prove it to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  OR I COULD TYPE AT YOU IN ALL CAPS or I could say STFU!  Ok this concludes how to detect grumpiness 101 :roflmao::roflmao:

[XDelusion]

I just want my Amiga Pi with minimum 256Mb of RAM, at least AGA, and of course more MI
PS than my old 80Mhz 060 could put out. HDMI out would be a bonus as would USB.
One thing I do know though, and mind you, this feeling might change when I get even older, but for now, I can careless about trying to keep up original hardware, and am just in the mood for a faster than hell, classic generation FPGA clone.

[ElPolloDiabl]

Go with a virtual memory solution... Solid state drives are one dollar a gigabyte.

[ChaosLord]

The A600 is NOT a 32-bit computer.

A600 is a 32-bit computer.
A600 can ONLY run 32-bit software.
A600 has 16 general purpose 32-bit registers.
A600 only understands 32-bit RAM.
A600 can move 32-bits of data from point A to point B in a single instruction because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 has a 4GB ram barrier just like all 32-bit computers, because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 runs many thousands of 32-bit softwares because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 cannot run 64-bit software because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 cannot run 24-bit software because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 cannot run 16-bit software because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 cannot run  8-bit software because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 cannot run  4-bit software because it is a 32-bit computer.

The reason A600 software works on A1200 and A4000 and on the 68060 and 68040 without a recompile is they are all 32-bit computers to start with so the software just automatically works.

The A600 is permanently perpetually stuck in 32-bit mode forever and ever and ever.  There is no way to switch into 64 bit mode.  It can't be downgraded into 24-bit mode.  It can't be downgraded into 16-bit mode.  It is just STUCK at 32-bit mode period.  The End.

[ChaosLord]

Go with a virtual memory solution... Solid state drives are one dollar a gigabyte.

SSDs use NAND Flash chips which are not randomly accessible.  They have gigantic page sizes.  They are not a replacement for RAM.

SSD's make great hard drives though. (as long as you stay away from that 3-bit Samsung NAND Flash, in which they drop down to merely good).

[danbeaver]

Go with a virtual memory solution... Solid state drives are one dollar a gigabyte.

Less than that if you use USD's

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

A600 is a 32-bit computer.
A600 can ONLY run 32-bit software.
A600 has 16 general purpose 32-bit registers.
A600 only understands 32-bit RAM.
A600 can move 32-bits of data from point A to point B in a single instruction because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 has a 4GB ram barrier just like all 32-bit computers, because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 runs many thousands of 32-bit softwares because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 cannot run 64-bit software because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 cannot run 24-bit software because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 cannot run 16-bit software because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 cannot run  8-bit software because it is a 32-bit computer.
A600 cannot run  4-bit software because it is a 32-bit computer.

[snip rest of rant]

The Motorola 68000 ("'sixty-eight-thousand'"; also called the m68k or Motorola 68k, "sixty-eight-k") is a 16/32-bit[1] CISC microprocessor core designed and marketed by Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector (now Freescale Semiconductor). Introduced in 1979 with HMOS technology as the first member of the successful 32-bit m68k family of microprocessors, it is generally software forward compatible with the rest of the line despite being limited to a 16-bit wide external bus.[2] After 35 years in production, the 68000 architecture is still in use.

- From Wikipedia.

Or if you prefer:  "M68000 8-/16-/32-Bit Microprocessors User's Manual" from Freescale's own website.  

http://cache.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/ref_manual/MC68000UM.pdf

This is almost kind of fun.  I don't even have to try to prove your statements incorrect.  

[ferrellsl]

[snip rest of rant]

- From Wikipedia.

Or if you prefer:  "M68000 8-/16-/32-Bit Microprocessors User's Manual" from Freescale's own website.  

http://cache.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/ref_manual/MC68000UM.pdf

This is almost kind of fun.  I don't even have to try to prove your statements incorrect.  

Just try to ignore him.  He refuses to be educated.

[kolla]

ChaosLord is right, the rest of you are ignorant clueless dumbasses, and you insist on proving that fact over and over and over again on these forums. It hurts reading all this ignorance, you guys have been here long enough to wise up already!!!

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

ChaosLord is right, the rest of you are ignorant clueless dumbasses, and you insist on proving that fact over and over and over again on these forums. It hurts reading all this ignorance, you guys have been here long enough to wise up already!!!

I say the same thing every time I see any of your posts.  :furious:

...and thread being locked by a mod in 3... 2... :roflmao:

:griping: :griping: :griping:

[kolla]

Well, what does it take to educate you sheeple? You link to the PDF at Freescale and gloat about it, but clearly is not capable of comprehending the content and its implications. And you go on personal attacks against the one who _is_ correct here.

[danbeaver]

Odd, the Wikipedia site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_500) states, "It utilizes a Motorola 68000 microprocessor running at 7.15909 MHz (NTSC) or 7.09379 MHz (PAL). The CPU is 32-bit internally, but uses a 16-bit data bus and 24-bit address bus, providing a maximum of 16 MB of address space."

Granted there are differences between an A600 and an A500, but 16 MB to 2 GB must have folks screaming (as in this thread) to the Wiki site to fix their information to make the A600 address 32-bits on a 24-bit address bus.

[kolla]

You know, my A600 has a whopping 32MB of Fast RAM - how does that work you think?

[kolla]

Here's a clue - it is not the A600 that does any addressing!

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Odd, the Wikipedia site (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_500) states, "It utilizes a Motorola 68000 microprocessor running at 7.15909 MHz (NTSC) or 7.09379 MHz (PAL). The CPU is 32-bit internally, but uses a 16-bit data bus and 24-bit address bus, providing a maximum of 16 MB of address space."

Granted there are differences between an A600 and an A500, but 16 MB to 2 GB must have folks screaming (as in this thread) to the Wiki site to fix their information to make the A600 address 32-bits on a 24-bit address bus.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/68000/

CPU-World says the same thing.  But clearly it doesn't matter how many links to the correct information you post, if people insist on being ignorant.  :roflmao: