(Im)Patient Amigas

[System]

Robert Du Gaue, an Amiga enthusiast and former Amiga columnist for CCN, and AmigaZone's Harv Laser get together to write a good article depicting the state of the current American West Coast Amiga community and the lack of progress from Amiga Inc.

You can read it here.

[DaveP]

Good, reasonably apolitical article full of pathos.

[yssing]

It did make me think.
Is it really worth the wait. I know it is just around the corner, but it have benn for quite some time now.
Any way not to annoy any one, but MOS 1.0 beta should be out now.
Maybe that is the way to go, if amiga don't finish AOS soon.

Just my opinion.

[System]

@yssing

Question : since both are strapped to crappy hardware, is either "worth waiting for"?  Granted, a 600 mhz PPC is faster than any existing classic Antique, but... 600 mhz brings it up to what???  1998 standards?  Let me express how totally enthusiastic I am about spending $1000 for a 1998-level machine with no commercial software support.

:huh:

[yssing]

@Wayne

No none of it is really worth spending money on atm. but the Xeon Xe (??) board with CPU modules, and Pegasos with the same, would be worth a little more once the new CPU modules arrive.
Any way, if the Power4 PPC are as good as stated, then it would be interessting to hae a CPU module with the Power4.
And as Mac will be using them, there will most likely be CPU modules with Power4.
And it would only be in the Amigas interest to add support for that.
It seems to me that most amiga folks would like to have as much PPC power as possible.

But ATM it seems as is MOS will have the advantage, it will be released first, and the Pagsos already use CPU modules, this would give them quite an advantage over AOS4.0 on the A1.

[vortexau]

@ Wayne
Which is why I havent sent off for the 'slight' upgrade to a A3000T, which is the classic machine that I "lust" after!

You forget TWO facts:
Many, many, many, many, many, many, Amiga-Users for many, many, many, many, many years have used 68000 or 68020 powered machines!

They didn't up-grade to faster CPUs!!!

That "1998" performance can be just the ENTRY-LEVEL equivalent of the unexpanded A500s and A1200s that satified many ppl.

(( It may be of interest that a 500Mz G3 model is STILL sold by Apple ))
(( The A1 and the Pegasus are 100Mz FASTER than that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ))



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[Kronos]

@Voteaux

New Mac with 500mhz ??

Must be something wrong at the wrong side of the world,
because 600 is the minimun around here.

[hnl_dk]

vortexau wrote:

(( It may be of interest that a 500Mz G3 model is STILL sold by Apple ))
(( The A1 and the Pegasus are 100Mz FASTER than that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ))

I could only find an 600MHz G3:
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/53/wo/mtIhc0LHLn7sH5dLef/0.3.0.3.27.39.3.3.1.1.0?218,47
or
http://www.computerstore.dk/shop/VareKort.asp?vn=PCAP0025&kat=PC-PDA&subkat=pc-pda3

[System]

I guess I missed the “next” delivery date or whaterver.  

I was away for several weeks this summer,  did I miss some new date to ship the latest and greatest?  

Can someone here give me (and others too I’m sure) an update about where Amiga Inc. and the new OS/hardware  is with respect to getting it into the hands of the general public.

Thanks for any insight and information.

Bob C.

[AmigaMac]

I wouldn't sweat it... you guys waited this long, you might as well keep waiting!

[System]

For me Amiga is a hobby and Im happy i can afford it. The possibilty that it will actually succeed as a platform is a nice and appreciated bonus. (Its also the reason why Im not interested in an alternative to the Amiga.)

[System]

:nervous:
I share Wayne's conerns with the lack of s/w support (commercial) and also the lack of speed that the 600MHz G3 offers, but on the other hand, the Amiga platform is being dragged through, what 10 years?, of technological change in one go. We also have to bear in mind that Apple absorb a fair number of the PPC processors, leaving little behind for the likes of us.
:hammer:
It is the old vicious circle, if we don't buy the A1 because it has no s/w support, then no s/w producers will make s/w for it because it has no viable user base. (as small as it is)
:quickdraw:
I am going to bite the bullet and get the A1 and OS4. It could be a waste of money but then it may not, yet if we aren't willing to show our support now then there won't be a G4/G5/Power4 or even an x86 version of the Amiga.

[System]

What we need to see first is Amiga partnering with some key people so that we can see some really good software support at launch. If people don't see that the machine can really do something. Otherwise, what is the point in it? Why switch from a PC or Mac with lots of software already available, to a machine with nothing? If Amiga wants to shrug off its image of an 'Antique' machine, it'd better make some progress with software as well as operating system soon!

Rant over.

[strobe]

What makes you think you will be able to buy AOS4 with the AmigaOne? Have we even seen an alpha of anything non-Linux running on the AmigaOne?

As for the PPC 970 it uses a new bus protocol so you will have to wait until MAI or whomever develops a new chip set before you can use it. In the meantime the Pegasos will be able to use G4 processors which use the same bus as the G3.

[System]

In the meantime the Pegasos will be able to use G4 processors which use the same bus as the G3.

Yay for the Pegasos! But I am not keen on an OS (MorphOS) that is only Amiga compatable (that is how I understand MOS), at least OS4 will be an AmigaOS based on the same things that OS3.x are based on (again how I read it).

Don't get me wrong, I wish the Peg and MOS all the best, but I will be sticking with Workbench(AmigaOS).

I hope that they are able to find some G4s tho, as I belive Apple currently absorbe most, if not all, of them. At least if they guys behind the Peg can find some G4s then Eyetech might be able to! Then (hopefully!) we can move onto the A1-XE and use the darn things!  :crazy: :lol: