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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #14 from previous page: October 04, 2013, 01:16:02 AM »
The business I was in (late 80's early 90's) supported/developed for PC, Unix and Mac. I got to work with and support many types of systems. Still Amiga out shown them all in many ways. However I feared the end around 1991 when I saw CBM spending lots of cash on PC-Colt models/deveopment that couldn't even run basic MSDOS with out crashing. At the same time they seemed to skimping on Amiga development letting 3rd party vendors pick up the slack on new products. Their brand was being hurt by poor clones and their star was being treated like a step child. We know how that turned out.

Over 2 years time I got my fill of Colts. One day I set up a line of system in our back office of 6 different PC systems. Two different Colts and 4 other clones. IBM, Amstrad (I think), AST, and a Kaypro. We had a customer that was using Colts and was claiming they might have a virus. I cleared all systems, removed hard drives (if they had them) and then booted each of the 6 with new clean copies of DOS. (both 3.1 and 3.3). I ran a series of boots and basic DOS functions tests to prove to management that the Colts were crashing while the others worked fine. I Did all kinds of variation.... swapped the floppies and disk drives around, swapped/replaced memory, ran system stress tests. Colts failed, other clones worked. In the end that company dumped their small fleet of Colts (12-15) and went with another vendor. How many times was this type story repeated across the county?

What if CBM had made a better clone? What if they had forgotten about the clone altogether and properly developed Amiga? When Colt sales tanked at the time it seemed that CBM execs couldn't empty the piggy banks and head for the exits fast enough.

Well that's the way it seemed to me at the time anyway. And honestly I'm not sorry for helping killing those sorry PC-Colts.

BTW, just so it doesn't seem I'm beating up on just Colt's.... fast forward a couple years and I had to do an almost identical set of test to show that AT&T clones couldn't run anything above DOS 3.1 (or was it 3.0?) without taking a dump. And when's the last time you saw and AT&T clone? Guess that's my fault too. :)

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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2013, 01:23:20 AM »
Dreaded double post.
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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2013, 05:43:51 AM »
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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2013, 06:30:15 AM »
I doubt B Gates will allow them to kick him out of the company he founded with Paul Allen.

Don't forget to check out the the article at the bottom of the link below "8 companies ruined by their founders".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/01/microsoft-gates-resignation-investors_n_4026506.html
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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2013, 06:40:08 AM »
Wait, when did Bill Gates become Ed Asner?
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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2013, 11:20:00 AM »
I think everyone is big fan of Amiga classic here and rightly so.

But there were several problems whit it.

CDTV: when it came out no one know what a CDROM was.

Amiga 600 was supposed to be a cut down version of Amiga500, but in the end it was not.

Commodore 65 was developed at same time as the A600, and later the C65 was canceled, but it might have delayed to development of A1200, if A1200 head come out in 1991 instead of 1992 it might made a difference.

Amiga 1200 did have too low specifications, it did not have CDROM when CD was finally becoming popular, it only came whit 2MB of ram, PC's at the time came whit 4MB, and CPU was too slow even then, it should have come as hard drive as default, It did have AGA, HAM8, put just on year after AGA, PC's where showing up whit true color graphics as standard.

CD32, it did have hardware accelerated video, but PC's at the time where able to playback video by raw CPU power, it was a toy.

What was even worst was that Zorro-III slots where not PCI compatible, it was not possible to get cheap hardware upgrades for Amiga3000/4000. Amiga1200 whit it none standard trap door, expansion slot, made it impossible to use standard upgrades.

Trying to enter MSDOS / PC market was also big mistake, it was not the software that was the issue, it was the price tag, and too many competitors pulled the price down.

They failed also in marketing; they let less advanced PC/MSDOS dealers spared lies, PC dealers where telling people that multitasking was unnecessary and useless and those they needed an IBM compatible PC in their home office. Did you know that WordPerefct existed for Amiga?

Commodore painted there self into a corner.

How knows what might have been if they done things differently, but they did not, and so is the history written. Blaming Microsoft for Commodores mistakes rally does not help.

On another hand, Microsoft did cause problems by always trying to monopolize on document format, image formats, and video formats, but it was not the only company to do this Apple did the same whit there QuickTime format.

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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2013, 12:59:32 PM »
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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2013, 01:55:36 PM »
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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2013, 02:17:15 PM »
@thread

The Gateway/Microsoft connection:

Source

Be sure to read what Carl has to say:

link in post

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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2013, 05:56:53 PM »
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Oh wow, Wikipedia and some linux neckbeard's website?  Well I'm convinced!

Here is a better linky for you.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=34705&forum=2&start=100&viewmode=flat&order=0

It seems you forgot to read this one.

http://www.justice.gov/atr/cases/ms_...-00028565b.htm

Beyond that Google is your friend. All of what they have done over the years is well documented and easy to find if you want to find it. If I printed it for you it would take 16000 or more full tractor trailers to deliver the paper to your house.
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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2013, 06:18:48 PM »
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The Gateway/Microsoft connection:

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Be sure to read what Carl has to say:

link in post

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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2013, 07:39:07 PM »
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Beyond that Google is your friend.
That's just what they want you to think. ¬_¬
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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2013, 07:56:46 PM »
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I doubt B Gates will allow them to kick him out of the company he founded with Paul Allen.
 
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Re: Bill Gates head on a stick!
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2013, 09:48:05 PM »
Maybe Bill Gates wants to buy Google so he can be back on the winning side?
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