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Title: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: trekiej on September 08, 2016, 11:46:57 PM
I was wondering if there was a lot of 3d games that (was) accelerated for the Amiga.
What do you think?
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: midway on September 09, 2016, 03:47:50 AM
I only have played wipeout and heretic ii
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: trekiej on September 09, 2016, 04:05:26 AM
How did you like the game play?
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: midway on September 09, 2016, 05:32:33 AM
On a ppc 604 and cvppc it was quiet enjoyable. Felt nearly as smooth as the playstation/peecee versions
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: Daff on September 09, 2016, 05:51:51 AM
Quote from: trekiej;813649
I was wondering if there was a lot of 3d games that (was) accelerated for the Amiga.
What do you think?


Yes, there are 220 games using 3D libraries for Amiga (all flavors).
Did you want the list?
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: RobertB on September 09, 2016, 09:59:39 AM
Quote from: Daff;813659
Did you want the list?

Yes!  A list would be good.

Back from my first day of looking around Sydney,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://www.dickestel.com/fcug.htm
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: woof on September 09, 2016, 03:03:46 PM
I dont know how many 3d games are for 68k but they are at least
blitzquake
beastieworker
gltron
payback
glsokoban
apoolgl
cube
FPSE (playstation emulator with lots of very enjoyable 3d games)
descent
tuxracer
117
...
and certainly others small games or quake variants that I have forgotten

There is also the GLeXcess scene demo that is not a game but nice
Also my Microbe3D.library exists for 68k : it is not a game but a nice 3D engine

Alain Thellier

Note: Can see here some grabs of those games
http://thellier.free.fr/Wazp3D.htm
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: trekiej on September 09, 2016, 04:54:59 PM
Thanks for the reply.
I would love to have the list of 3D games.
Do they require a 3D card?
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: Rob on September 09, 2016, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: woof;813681
I dont know how many 3d games are for 68k but they are at least
blitzquake
beastieworker
gltron
payback
glsokoban
apoolgl
cube
FPSE (playstation emulator with lots of very enjoyable 3d games)
descent
tuxracer
117
...
and certainly others small games or quake variants that I have forgotten

There is also the GLeXcess scene demo that is not a game but nice
Also my Microbe3D.library exists for 68k : it is not a game but a nice 3D engine

Alain Thellier

Note: Can see here some grabs of those games
http://thellier.free.fr/Wazp3D.htm


Hyperion's port of Freespace also runs on 68k.
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: jack-3d on September 09, 2016, 08:12:12 PM
Quake2 from Hyperion can also work only on 68k.
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: Daff on September 10, 2016, 02:21:12 AM
Quote from: trekiej;813690
I would love to have the list of 3D games.
Do they require a 3D card?


Here the list of the 221 games and interpreters which use 3D libraries (Warp3D, OpenGL, TinyGL, MiniGL...) on all Amiga flavors. They need a 3D card.

Abode Of Golgotha 1.5
Ace Of Hearts
Adrian
After The Fall (ATF)
Afterwards
Air Quake
Aleph One
Alien Quake: Return To Lv-426
Aliens versus Predator [Interpreted]
Alybox 1.03
Amazing Voxel Bird Saga
AmiCraft beta 3.1 [Not Finished]
Another Pool GL 0.99
Aquaria [Interpreted]
Armagetron 0.2.5.2
Armagetron Advanced 0.2.8.3.1
Assault Cube 1.2.0.2
Assault Cube Reloaded 2.6.2
Bantumi 2.04
Battalion 1.4b
Battle Tanks 0.8
Battle Zone 1.4 [Not Finished]
Beastie Workers 0.4
Becher Rescue
Bid For Power 1.2
BillardGL 1.70
Billiard Ball Simulator
Black Shades Elite
Blaster Bastards 0.85 [Not Finished]
Block Out 2.4
Blue Mango Quest 0.6.4, The [Not Finished]
BoxWorld 1.14
Brain Party
Cadog Adventures 1.01
Caph 1.1
Car World 0.245 [Not Finished]
Censored By The Order Of The King (Candy)
Chromium BSU 0.9.12
CLS Pong
Color Tile Match 3D
Critical Mass: Critter 1.0.2
Cube
Cube 2: Sauerbraten - Collect Edition
Cubosphere 0.04 [Not Finished]
D1X-Rebirth
D2X-Rebirth
D3GNOP
D3GNOP+
DarkPlaces
Descent 2 1.2 [Interpreted]
Descent [Interpreted]
Descent: Freespace - The Great War
Descent: Freespace 2 [Interpreted]
Dessert Stroke
Diamonds And Dust 0.1 [Not Finished]
Doom 3 [interpreted]
Dragon Memory 1.40
Egoboo 2.22
Emilia Pinball 0.3.1 [Not Finished]
Enemy Lines 2
Enemy Lines 4
Enemy Lines 5
Enemy Lines 6 1.1
Enemy Lines 7 0.8 (Enelin 7)
Enforce 0.2 [Not Finished]
Epiar 0.4.2 [Not Finished]
Excido 0.1.5 [Not Finished]
F-1 Spirit
F2bgl 0.1.8
Fade To Black [Interpreted]
Falling Block Game 0.81
Falling Up
Fantasy Quake: Rise Of The Phoenix
Fish Supper 0.1.6
Fly 0.3.3 [Not Finished]
Foobillard 3.0a
Forget Me Not
Fortis 1.2
Freedoom 0.6.4
FreedroidRPG 0.16 rc2 [Not Finished]
FuhQuake 0.31
GemRB 0.6.3 [Not Finished]
Gish 1.53 [Interpreted]
GL Sokoban
GL Sokoban 0.1 [Not Finished]
GL Tron 0.70
Glast 0.91
Glaxium 0.5 [Not Finished]
GLQuake
Gnat's Tetris Machine
Goonies, The: 20th Anniversary Edition 1.0.1
Heretic 2
Heretic Fortress, The
Hexen 2: Hammer of Thyrion [Interpreted]
Hexen [Interpreted]
HHexen 1.6.3 (Hacked Hexen)
Homeworld 1.05 [Interpreted]
Humphrey 1.2
Hurrican 1.0.0.7
HyperCannon 1.1
I Have No Tomatoes 1.55
I Meteor
Imubox 0.2 [Not Finished]
Islands Mini-Golf 1.5
Kobo Deluxe 0.5.1 [Not Finished]
Legend Of Edgar 1.21
Letters Fall 3.0
Light Force 0.8d [Not Finished]
Lugaru HD [Interpreted]
Lunar Lander 0.6.4
Malice
Marathon 2 [Interpreted]
Marathon Infinity [Interpreted]
Marathon [Interpreted]
Marble Solitarus
Maw Of The Umbra: Abode Of Golgotha 2 1.1
MegaGlest 3.5.2
Menobox
Menobox Xmas
MultiRacer 1.0.4 beta 7
Mures 0.5 [Not Finished]
Nether Earth Remake 0.52b2
Neverball 1.5.4
Neverputt 1.5.4
Nexuiz 2.5.2
Niflheim: Souls Feast 1.01
Odamex 0.7.0
Oki 0.1.6
Old Skool Gravity Game (OSGG)
Old Skool Gravity Game 0.99 (OSGG)
Open Arena 0.8.1
OpenGOO 0.1b [Not Finished]
OpenJK
Orbit 0.7a [Not Finished]
Orbit Hopper 1.16b
PacDude Hero 2.0
Pairs W3D
Payback 1.07
Phlipple 0.8.2
Pixel Artist
Planet Penguin Racer 0.5
Possible Worlds
Powder
PrBoom 2.5.1
Primrose
PunchTree pre 02 [Not Finished]
Q Zone
Qbreed 0.4 [Not Finished]
Quadnut
Quake
Quake 2
Quake 3 Rally
Quake 3: Arena [Interpreted]
Quake Mission Pack 1: Scourge Of Aramgon (Hipnotic) [Interpreted]
Quake Mission Pack 2: Dissolution Of Eternity (Rogue) [Interpreted]
Quake Rally [Interpreted]
Race Game 0.5 [Not Finished]
Red Eclipse 1.4
Residual 0.2.1
Return To Castle Wolfenstein [Interpreted]
Return To The Roots 0.8 [Not Finished]
Rezerwar 0.1
RGBlocks 2.0
Roller Coaster 2000
rRootage 0.23
Ryleh Campaign 1.4
SDL Jump 1.0.6
SDL-Ball
Secret Of My Soul (Soms 3D) [Not Finished]
Secret Of Ultimate Legendary Fantasy Unleashed 1.5.2 (SOULFU)
Settlers 2, The - Gold Edition [Interpreted]
Shadow Warrior Classic Redux [Interpreted]
Shift It GL
Shogo: Mobile Armor Division
Shoot Em Up [Without Name] [Not Finished]
Shotgun Debugger 1.0.2
Siege, The 1.1
Skunks 4.2.0
Smokin' Guns 1.1
Solar Conquest 0.2
Sonic Robo Blast 2 1.09
Sonic Robo Blast 2 Riders 1.46b [Not Finished]
Sopo Block
Soul Ride 1.5
Space 0.9B [Not Finished]
Special Forces [Interpreted]
Speed Dreams 2
Star Trek Voyager: Elite Force Holomatch [Interpreted]
Star Wars Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast
Star Wars Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Stroids 3D 0.9b
Super Tux Kart 0.6.2 [Not Finished]
T-Sim 0.1 [Not Finished]
Team Fortress 2.8
TetriAttack 2
TetriCrisis 4 100% AI
Tilt N Roll [Not Finished]
Too Many Troopers
TORCS - The Open Racing Car Simulator 1.3.4
Transfusion
Tremulous 1.1.0
True Combat 1.2
Tux Racer 0.61
UFO: Alien Invasion 2.3.1
uHexen2: Hammer of Thyrion 1.5.8
Uplink: Trust Is A Weakness 1.55 [Interpreted]
Urban Terror 4.1 (ioUrban Terror)
Video Poker Solitarus
Virtual Grand Prix 2
VoxelNoid 3D - Duel Edition
Warsow 0.12
Warzone 2100 2.0.10
Wings Battlefield - Ultimate Duel Edition
Wipeout 2097
Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory [Interpreted]
World Of Padman 1.6
Wurmhole
X-Men: Ravages Of The Apocalypse
X-Moto 0.5.10
Yamagi Quake 2
Yet Another Pointless MiniGL Game (YAPMG)

If you search 3D games for Classic Amiga, HOL can help:
http://hol.abime.net/hol_search.php?N_ref_genre_viewpoint=4


Best regards
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: trekiej on September 10, 2016, 04:24:43 AM
Thanks a bunch.

Are these 68K?
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: Daff on September 10, 2016, 05:43:48 AM
Quote from: trekiej;813728
Thanks a bunch.

Are these 68K?

Here the 68k list (most of them need a big 68k configuration, like Amithlon/WinUAE):

BoxWorld 1.14
Epiar 0.4.2 [Not Finished]
Foobillard 3.0a
GL Tron 0.70
Glaxium 0.5 [Not Finished]
Legend Of Edgar 1.21
Letters Fall 3.0
Odamex 0.7.0
Alybox 1.03
Battle Zone 1.4 [Not Finished]
Beastie Workers 0.4
Block Out 2.4
Blue Mango Quest 0.6.4, The [Not Finished]
Chromium BSU 0.9.12
Cube
Cube 2: Sauerbraten - Collect Edition
D1X-Rebirth
D3GNOP
D3GNOP+
Descent [Interpreted]
Descent: Freespace - The Great War
Dragon Memory 1.40
Enforce 0.2 [Not Finished]
Fly 0.3.3 [Not Finished]
GL Sokoban
GLQuake
Hexen [Interpreted]
HHexen 1.6.3 (Hacked Hexen)
I Have No Tomatoes 1.55
I Meteor
Imubox 0.2 [Not Finished]
Kobo Deluxe 0.5.1 [Not Finished]
Menobox
Menobox Xmas
Mures 0.5 [Not Finished]
Oki 0.1.6
Old Skool Gravity Game 0.99 (OSGG)
Orbit 0.7a [Not Finished]
PacDude Hero 2.0
Pairs W3D
Payback 1.07
Pixel Artist
Quake
Quake 2
rRootage 0.23
SDL Jump 1.0.6
Sopo Block
TetriAttack 2
TetriCrisis 4 100% AI
Tilt N Roll [Not Finished]
Tux Racer 0.61
Yet Another Pointless MiniGL Game (YAPMG)
uHexen2: Hammer of Thyrion 1.5.8
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: trekiej on September 10, 2016, 04:40:19 PM
Wow, thanks again.
How well does Alien Breed 3D and Breathless work with WinUAE?
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: Daff on September 10, 2016, 05:52:25 PM
Alien Breed 3D, Breathless and the vast majority of the Amiga games works flawlessly on WinUAE.
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: trekiej on September 10, 2016, 06:21:01 PM
Great. This makes me wonder what games were Amiga only.
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: jack-3d on January 11, 2018, 11:54:15 AM
Quake3 Arena now available for WarpOS+Warp3D (OS3.X) in early Alpha stages...

Requirements: OS3.X, WarpOS compatible CPU (603e, 604e, 750L), Warp3D compatible card, 192+MB RAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXKNZ_VsReo
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: rvo_nl on January 11, 2018, 07:36:53 PM
Quote from: jack-3d;834926
Quake3 Arena now available for WarpOS+Warp3D (OS3.X) in early Alpha stages...

Requirements: OS3.X, WarpOS compatible CPU (603e, 604e, 750L), Warp3D compatible card, 192+MB RAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXKNZ_VsReo

WOW. that is a lot faster than the OS4.x version on my classic ppc :D thanks, I had no idea this was being worked on!

..would this run on my system? can I get it somewhere?
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: jack-3d on January 11, 2018, 10:47:22 PM
Latest Quake3WOS Alpha8r2 (http://eab.abime.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=56163&d=1515618232)
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: Templario on January 12, 2018, 01:17:16 AM
And for MorphOS?
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: kolla on January 12, 2018, 02:10:57 AM
Quote from: Templario;834951
And for MorphOS?


http://morphos-files.ppa.pl/categories/games/action

at the bottom.
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: Iggy on January 12, 2018, 02:12:57 AM
Quote from: Templario;834951
And for MorphOS?


Probably a subset of the PPC titles. It's rare finding a MorphOS 3D game that isn't available on another NG platform.
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: trekiej on January 12, 2018, 02:36:48 AM
I am glad to see this thread going. I hope to get a new version of Amiga Forever this year.
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: jack-3d on January 12, 2018, 07:57:44 AM
As far as I remember the current developed Quake3 for classic Amigas (WarpOS) is based on MorphOS sources. With G3 powered hardware there was finally a reason why to start working on it. And yes, it is playable and with G4 coming to Classic Amiga, it will be even more enjoyable.

BTW we have also new Hexen2 port for classic Amiga WarpOS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUics1KTwsE
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: trixster on January 12, 2018, 01:12:19 PM
There's also a 68k build of Quake3 on eab but I suspect it will be a slideshow on anything but winuae.

Quake 3 on a sonnet is fantastic, very playable 15-20fps frame rates with bots even at 640x480. If you dial down the res and the texture quality a little it'll do 2fps which is great.
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: vince_6 on January 12, 2018, 04:57:38 PM
I wonder how will this run on my A1200 603/Voodoo 3 :-/

Amazing job!!!
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: rvo_nl on January 12, 2018, 06:23:52 PM
Quote from: jack-3d;834947
Latest Quake3WOS Alpha8r2 (http://eab.abime.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=56163&d=1515618232)


Thanks! Gave it a try today and to my surprise it starts first time :)

https://youtu.be/IiK1V5C4jt8

Unfortunately, there seems to be an issue with buffering since the screen piles up with garbage quickly. Also I could not start a new game.

But the demo can be started at least. Well, as you can see a lot of textures are missing but the speed is definitely there. Will keep a close eye on this one.
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: trixster on January 12, 2018, 08:34:24 PM
Did you leave in an old q3config.config in the baseq3 folder?

Try reducing the texture quality slider and the geometry detail, maybe the bvision is struggling with only having 8mb ram.
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: rvo_nl on January 12, 2018, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: trixster;834967
Did you leave in an old q3config.config in the baseq3 folder?

Try reducing the texture quality slider and the geometry detail, maybe the bvision is struggling with only having 8mb ram.

You were so right, the old OS4 config was messing up things here. With that cfg removed, the game runs properly, although its still missing textures. Still have to tweak the settings a bit to make that work.

I have uploaded a new video to reflect the difference. As you can see, it is just about playable this way:

https://youtu.be/d1JnIw5P8oU
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: AAACHIPSET on January 14, 2018, 01:31:37 PM
does microcosm  qualify as a 3d game...akiko 3d graphics chip?
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: rvo_nl on January 14, 2018, 02:17:12 PM
Quote from: AAACHIPSET;835010
does microcosm  qualify as a 3d game...akiko 3d graphics chip?


there is no 3d in microcosm.
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: pVC on January 14, 2018, 03:18:47 PM
Quote from: trekiej;813690
Do they require a 3D card?


Quote from: trekiej;813746
Wow, thanks again.
How well does Alien Breed 3D and Breathless work with WinUAE?


Quote from: AAACHIPSET;835010
does microcosm  qualify as a 3d game...akiko 3d graphics chip?


Somehow I think that people are mixing "3D" and "3D accelerated" games now. 3D accelerated (as in topic) games always mean running them in "3D card" and software rendered 3D doesn't count. And Akiko is does only chunky to planar conversion, no 3D.
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: trixster on January 15, 2018, 05:35:50 AM
Quote from: rvo_nl;834969
You were so right, the old OS4 config was messing up things here. With that cfg removed, the game runs properly, although its still missing textures. Still have to tweak the settings a bit to make that work.

I have uploaded a new video to reflect the difference. As you can see, it is just about playable this way:

https://youtu.be/d1JnIw5P8oU


Try turning off wall marks - I think there's a setting in the options, or you can use the command \cg_marks 0
Title: Re: 3D Accelerated Games
Post by: Sugo77 on February 27, 2024, 06:37:58 PM
Hello!
Where i can found and download Tales Of Tamar 3D Map?
I was try searching in almost in full internet and not found... :(

TalesofTamar
Tales of Tamar 3D Map Early Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OLJ6AJYQHY&ab_channel=TalesofTamar

wazp3d
TOT3D 1 9 2006
Tales of Tamar 3D Map in 2006
An add-on for the game Tales of Tamar (PC & Amiga68k & Morphos).
Project stopped for various reasons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLnwEitiwPk&ab_channel=wazp3d

wazp3d
TOT3D new smoke
Tales of Tamar 3D Map
Showing a fire & smoke effect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKg3oUp5R08&ab_channel=wazp3d

"Tales of Tamar"'s 3D Map
http://thellier.free.fr/Wazp3D.htm

P.S.:
Me need this only for tests in AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition in emulator WinUAE x64 2024 year versions...
I have all what to need for this, for example Wazp3D, etc...