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Operating System Specific Discussions => AROS Research Operating System => Topic started by: kickstart on November 16, 2010, 02:51:55 AM
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I want to give a try to aros and have some questions, on the laptop i have windows 7 installed, how can install aros with dual boot with w7?
Laptop have realtek audio and gma 950 graphics card, are audio and graphics compatible with aros?
Thanks.
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You read my mind. I was going to try this in the next few weeks once my uni is finished and have time to mess around with it.
I have an acer aspire laptop.
I also plan to buy an external harddrive maybe next week so i can try it (disk partioning?)
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Disk partitions, i supose... this time i dont want adventures with a sad end so thats the reason for ask.
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I run Aros on my Acer Aspire laptop and an unbranded netbook. I can tell you that Intel GMA graphics are supported, but only through an external monitor at the moment! But never fear, the 24bit VESA driver is fine and it's still super fast.
Audio and ethernet both work on my Acer Aspire, so I can go online and browse the web with OWB (hopefully this gets a new name soon). USB works on both, so I can play games and fire rockets with a control pad.
You can easily try the Icaros and Broadway boot CDs and see if they will run on your system before installing them. Unfortunately I don't know anything about resizing partitions and dual booting with Windows, I wiped that virus-ridden crap off my laptop the day I got it and installed Aros and Linux, using Aros to make its own partitions then using Linux to add its own in the rest of the space. I wouldn't risk partitioning the hard drive from Aros unless you don't mind losing everything on the drive if I were you. It's possible to install it on a removable USB drive though, so you may want to try that after confirming it works from the CD/DVD.
To install Aros, you boot it up from the CD and click on the Install Aros icon in the Tools drawer. This will bring up a GUI where you can determine the size of your partitions and choose where to install the software and boot menu. It's pretty simple really, once you manage to run it from the CD you can be pretty sure it'll run from your HDD too.
Just remember it's still in development, so be ready for a bumpy ride.
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Thanks Cammy. I think mine is the aspire 5315 or something like that. It's just a cheapo i got from JBHI.
My main concern is being able to continue running windows 7. I'm really comfortable using it and like it a lot. I also need it for uni work for programs like word and excel so using AROS fulltime isn't an option.
What kind of time frame are we talking about before we can expect AROS to be fully functional enough to replace windows, etc?
I saw the youtube video showing screen dragging and was really impressed by it. Not because of the dragging but because of how the desktop looked. It looks better than it did before when i looked. It looked very cartoonish so i'm glad that's changed. For the first time i am now considering switching to AROS :-)
I will definitely use Broadway. I'm always watching dvds on my laptop.
:)
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I want to give a try to aros and have some questions, on the laptop i have windows 7 installed, how can install aros with dual boot with w7?
Laptop have realtek audio and gma 950 graphics card, are audio and graphics compatible with aros?
Thanks.
Like cammy said, you should try an AROS Live CD to see if your Hardware is properly supported. ICAROS or BROADWAY should be fine.
If you want to install AROS on the same Harddrive with windows, you need to make your windows partition smaller. You can then install aros on the free space.
A good tool to edit partitions without erasing them is GPartED LiveCD (http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php)
But you should make a Backup of your important data anyway.
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For those who want to try Aros, may I recommend waiting a few days for Icaros 1.2.5
It WILL be the best Icaros ever, and has cured some issues that were in 1.2.4
We are just beta testing it now.
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I want to give a try to aros and have some questions, on the laptop i have windows 7 installed, how can install aros with dual boot with w7?
Laptop have realtek audio and gma 950 graphics card, are audio and graphics compatible with aros?
Thanks.
Don't bother installing AROS, just boot from the LiveCD. That way your Windows setup will be unharmed and you get to play with AROS :)
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AROS has no problem dual booting with win7, i have done that myself.
Rough procedure is
-Install win7 but leave some room on the drive that is free and unpartitioned. 5-10 GB should be plenty.
-Install AROS selecting the option "Use free space on drive" to maintain the windows partition.
-AROS will install GRUB, detect the win7 partition and create a boot entry in GRUB for win7 and AROS
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Don't bother installing AROS, just boot from the LiveCD. That way your Windows setup will be unharmed and you get to play with AROS :)
Yes i try with the live cd but the slow access to the cd make the experience a bit slow and with some freezes.
Thanks for all replies.
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Yes i try with the live cd but the slow access to the cd make the experience a bit slow and with some freezes.
Thanks for all replies.
In that case, I used PartitionMagic to resize my Windows drive and install grub. :)
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Diferences between broadway and icaros?
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Icaros includes heaps of programs, games and utilities already installed, ready to use as your new desktop OS. Broadway also includes programs and games, but is more media-oriented, and uses the cool new media front end AMC, which is a menu for browsing videos, music, games and more. It would be perfect for a media PC hooked up to an entertainment system, run by remote or wireless control pad.
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I no longer have any PC with an optical drive. Can I copy the Live CD files to a USB Flash Drive and boot from it?
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@lando
I think it is more in volved then just copying files, i think there is a guide showing how to do this on the icaros homepage. (see cammy's sig for link)
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I thought that Icaros was available in three flavors?
I see the Desktop Live and Desktop Light versions, but what happened to the VMware version?
Has this been phased out for some reason? I really like the idea of just being able to load it right up in Virtualbox, try it out and all without having to create partitions, mess with Grub or install anything.
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I no longer have any PC with an optical drive. Can I copy the Live CD files to a USB Flash Drive and boot from it?
You can install AROS on a USB Drive just like on a Harddrive, but you first need to boot AROS from a cd to do so.
IIRC Paolo offered pre-installed USB Pens for a while.
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Here's the link how to make an USB pendrive boot for Aros:
http://www.icarosdesktop.com/icarosfiles/addendum-pendrive122.pdf
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... but what happened to the VMware version?
Has this been phased out for some reason? I really like the idea of just being able to load it right up in Virtualbox, try it out and all without having to create partitions, mess with Grub or install anything.
Yes it was phased out, due to difficulty supporting differnt virtual machines i think.
You can easily boot the live version using qemu which come in the archive along with a boot script to load it straight up.
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Thanks Cammy. I think mine is the aspire 5315 or something like that. It's just a cheapo i got from JBHI.
My main concern is being able to continue running windows 7. I'm really comfortable using it and like it a lot. I also need it for uni work for programs like word and excel so using AROS fulltime isn't an option.
What kind of time frame are we talking about before we can expect AROS to be fully functional enough to replace windows, etc?
I saw the youtube video showing screen dragging and was really impressed by it. Not because of the dragging but because of how the desktop looked. It looks better than it did before when i looked. It looked very cartoonish so i'm glad that's changed. For the first time i am now considering switching to AROS :-)
I will definitely use Broadway. I'm always watching dvds on my laptop.
:)
What about running AROS within VirtualBox?
You can do your uni work and AROS at the same time.
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In that case, I used PartitionMagic to resize my Windows drive and install grub. :)
Perhaps a Copy2RAM option could be added to the grub menu like on some Linux distros?
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Perhaps a Copy2RAM option could be added to the grub menu like on some Linux distros?
That's a bloody good idea!
BTW: The 20101117 build of AROS 68k is much more stable than before, it booted up first time every time for me in UAE!
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In that case, I used PartitionMagic to resize my Windows drive and install grub. :)
That's a bloody good idea!
BTW: The 20101117 build of AROS 68k is much more stable than before, it booted up first time every time for me in UAE!
Great news indeed, I shall downloaderise it ASAP!
Shall I propose a bounty for Copy2ram? Lol
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Great news indeed, I shall downloaderise it ASAP!
Shall I propose a bounty for Copy2ram? Lol
A quiet word with whoever is maintaining icaros now would probably be a better idea :)
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After install aros on my laptop, without sound support, the system is fast but the feeling using all the amiga stuffs under a emulator is not too good for me, on the aros part after instalation gives the sensation of "now what?".
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After install aros on my laptop, without sound support, the system is fast but the feeling using all the amiga stuffs under a emulator is not too good for me, on the aros part after instalation gives the sensation of "now what?".
Try changing "stop on idle" to 2 or 3. Seems to help significantly with speed when using 68k stuff.
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You can install AROS on a USB Drive just like on a Harddrive, but you first need to boot AROS from a cd to do so.
With VirtualBox, you can boot AROS from a virtual CD and install it to a real USB stick.
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Copy2RAM?
I've been moaning about option to boot from ram disk for years - isn't that the same :)
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Copy2RAM?
I've been moaning about option to boot from ram disk for years - isn't that the same :)
One and the same. :)
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In that case, I used PartitionMagic to resize my Windows drive and install grub. :)
Last version I used didn't support NTFS...
Got a link?
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Perhaps a Copy2RAM option could be added to the grub menu like on some Linux distros?
Yeah, I like this idea. I've been working quite a bit with this with rather large WinXP disk images (i.e. > 2GB) . Loading the images into ram with Grub is pretty painfully slow, but once the image has been loaded into RAM, the boot up time is only a fraction of what it takes to boot a hard disk based WinXP system. I'm talking like 20 seconds vs. 2.5 minutes.
I've just started playing with Icaros in Virtualbox and it was easy to get it going. (Tried Broadway, but couldn't seem to get networking working. I'll have to look into that some more.) I bet the Icaros light package would load pretty nicely into RAM and run. Maybe I'll take a crack at it.
Regards,
AmigaEd
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Hello my friend,
in Broadway you have to go to the Network Prefs and choose PCNet32.device in order to get it working in VB. That is all. Please use DHCP and press save. Than it will work. Broadway uses the drivers for iMica and AresOne as standard.
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I no longer have any PC with an optical drive. Can I copy the Live CD files to a USB Flash Drive and boot from it?
Is there any reason not to run AROS in a Virtual Machine? Virtual Box is free and I've played with Icaros Desktop VE before and it ran really well. I was using VMWare workstation but it's the same idea. Then you don't have to really worry about hardware compatibility either.
As long as you have enough RAM and processor it seems like a great way to run it.
-Nyle