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Operating System Specific Discussions => Amiga OS => Amiga OS -- Application questions and support => Topic started by: spihunter on March 21, 2011, 02:35:08 PM
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That's odd, I've heard that USB works fine under OS4. So well in fact that there isn't even any need for USB2.
At least that is what I have read in various forums.
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My experience with USB support under OS4 has been pretty terrible. Most USB sticks aren't recognized at all and other sticks get scrambled or have read/write errors. Not to mention that there's no USB2.0 support. I'm using a PegII/ODW which has USB2.0 ports and it would be nice if OS4 supported them but I doubt I'll ever see it. Hyperion is focusing on the the X1000......
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Well, Now it won't read the drive anymore. It's giving an "unable to mount device" error everytime I try it. This sucks! None of the 6 different USB drive here work.......
Can anyone get Octamed and the Maestrix running on MorphOS so I can finally be happy! ;)
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That's odd, I've heard that USB works fine under OS4. So well in fact that there isn't even any need for USB2.
At least that is what I have read in various forums.
The quality of the implementation of a protocol has nothing to do with the need (or not) of support of another protocol.
Varthall
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The quality of the implementation of a protocol has nothing to do with the need (or not) of support of another protocol.
Varthall
I know, it's just a convenient excuse for some in the OS4 community as to why USB2 isn't yet implemented.
By the way:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?p=562228#post562228
"The OS4 USB drivers has been working for years!"
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The bulk only with transparent scsi commands (8,5,80) is easy to implement, after having understood what to do with 2 endpoints (in and out) and the 3 phases Command Block Wrapper (CBW), DATA, Command Status Wrapper (CSW) and has nothing to see with usb 2.0 or not.
Perhaps massstorage on Sirion is mixed with very old CBI implementation, which is a horror to code, maintain and fix.
I'ts bad to see that OS4 is not reliable.
FAT32 4GB keys are usable on my A2000 68000/Highway/Subway Workbench 3.1 with fat95.
Big shame.
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The bulk only with transparent scsi commands (8,5,80) is easy to implement, after having understood what to do with 2 endpoints (in and out) and the 3 phases Command Block Wrapper (CBW), DATA, Command Status Wrapper (CSW) and has nothing to see with usb 2.0 or not.
Perhaps massstorage on Sirion is mixed with very old CBI implementation, which is a horror to code, maintain and fix.
I'ts bad to see that OS4 is not reliable.
FAT32 4GB keys are usable on my A2000 68000/Highway/Subway Workbench 3.1 with fat95.
Big shame.
They are also usable on a 7MHz A500 with 512KB of RAM and a Workbench 1.x too!
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57010
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Are you sure you used plain VFAT16 to format them?
In my experience (SAM440EP Flex with OS4.1u2) almost all of the USB-thumbdrives I tried worked flawlessly. Two however refused to show up on Workbench. I have noticed that you can corrupt the filesystem, if you remove the stick too early when writing data.
The progress bar on Workbench is apparently no good indication. I have grown into the habit of waiting an additional minute before removing the thumbdrive and had no data loss since.
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Never had a single issue with USB sticks on my SAM, running 4.1.
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Hey Folks,
I recently got my hands on a G3 Amigaone with OS 4.1
I can't seem to get it to read any of the 4 different types of FAT formatted
USB sticks I have here. They all come up as Unformatted or nothing happens at all?
Is there something I need to install to get it to read these kind of drives?
Just a thought, has your A1 had the hardware fixes applied to it to make the USB ports work correctly?
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"I have know idea?. I bought it second hand. It's an original 600mhz G3 AmigaOne. I'll have to read up on what the fixes were."
That sounds like one of the old AmigaOne SE's. They are pretty much a lost cause as far as USB goes.
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I have know idea?. I bought it second hand. It's an original 600mhz G3 AmigaOne. I'll have to read up on what the fixes were.
the old g3 a1 was a failed alpha/beta product sold to customers back in 2000ish... its a long story, i guess other amiga historian here can fill you in on it... anyway if i was you i would ask for my money back. then buy the sam460.....
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"I have know idea?. I bought it second hand. It's an original 600mhz G3 AmigaOne. I'll have to read up on what the fixes were."
That sounds like one of the old AmigaOne SE's. They are pretty much a lost cause as far as USB goes.
Sadly that applies across the board for A-Ones, since they all share the same chipset and associated issues.
The Teron motherboard was never meant to be anything other than a proof of concept/evaluation board. It should never have shipped as a finished product to the public.
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Sadly that applies across the board for A-Ones, since they all share the same chipset and associated issues.
The Teron motherboard was never meant to be anything other than a proof of concept/evaluation board. It should never have shipped as a finished product to the public.
No. Thats not entirely true. The XE has issues that can be somewhat fixed. The Micro's were better off but have other limitations. The SE is pretty much unfix-able.
I have a Micro and USB works fine except for the occasional corruption which is caused by an OS bug.
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The progress bar on Workbench is apparently no good indication. I have grown into the habit of waiting an additional minute before removing the thumbdrive and had no data loss since.
why that i wonder. i would likely report the issue, if such was ever the case on my system. on my a4k/deneb ive never been able to get fat95 filesys corrupt even by accidentaly removing the media while writing. in fact there was a hangup issue way back, while in dma mode copying large files (like 100's of mb), but it must have been taken care of after ive reported it. was probably due to newly discovered buster bug. also i must yet buy a stick that doesnt get recognized under poseidon.
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Well, it seems that certain combinations of flash drive, motherboard and FAT16 can end up with a corrupt drive after writing data to it. I've never experienced it myself, but I don't trust it too much. Besides, since we're stuck with USB1.1, it's faster for me to shuttle the files across the network anyway. Earlier versions of 4.0 and 4.1 had other issues with some drives, since the most recent updates though I haven't found a drive that didn't mount, including USB hard drives, memory card adaptors, flash drives etc.
Motherboard issues are another thing altogether - as was said here the XE is somewhat repairable - mine doesn't show any hardware-related issues, but the SE seems to be worse off by all accounts. You could always buy a compatible USB PCI card and use that, or some people have had some luck plugging a powered USB hub into the rear ports and just using that for flash drives instead of the ports on the machine.
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Yeah those A1 se's are the buggiest of all the "teron" Amiga one boards..
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