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Amiga News and Community Announcements => Amiga News and Community Announcements => Topic started by: SysAdmin on April 11, 2012, 02:36:13 PM
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We are releasing the e-mail below at Barry's request. He wanted everyone to know he is in the process of answering all your questions. Each and every one of them. His answers will be released on April 16th, 2012.
Good morning Tedd,
I took EVERY single question....even the "snarky" ones....and will probably add the few that came in right before you closed the thread. The format was cleaned up, and I belive the list was posted on your site. *Take a look. Not one question was deleted, nor will they be edited, except where needed for a PG rating.
What we will do now is sort them by category, so it will be easier to read, and easier to answer, and I won't have to duplicate my replies to the same question many times. *I plan on adding quite a *few more that were not even thought of by the members.
As you can see, there are a huge amount of questions, and some require a rather lengthy reply. I plan on also adding a preface, which will give an overview of our corporate profile, and my personal information that is relevant to this whole undertaking.
I have done dozens of interviews over the past 2 years, most for the mainstream & tech oriented press, TV, internet etc....but they were all done by those who had no agenda, and all were done in a very uncontroversial manner. This Amiga.org interview is quite different, and will most likely be the most publicized and widely distributed article once it hits your site. There will more information and disclosures that have never been explained and revealed before.*
I will start working on this mid week, and expect to have it ready for you by April 16th. *Get ready for some serious traffic....hope your servers can handle it.
Warmest regards,
Barry*
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We will see...
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Will this never end...
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Will this never end...
^^
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We are releasing the e-mail below at Barry's request. He wanted everyone to know he is in the process of answering all your questions. Each and every one of them. His answers will be released on April 16th, 2012.
As you can see, there are a huge amount of questions, and some require a rather lengthy reply. I plan on also adding a preface, which will give an overview of our corporate profile, and my personal information that is relevant to this whole undertaking.
I have done dozens of interviews over the past 2 years, most for the mainstream & tech oriented press, TV, internet etc....but they were all done by those who had no agenda, and all were done in a very uncontroversial manner. This Amiga.org interview is quite different, and will most likely be the most publicized and widely distributed article once it hits your site. There will more information and disclosures that have never been explained and revealed before.*
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Good to know we will get some answers, but seems to be jampacked with more corporate propaganda. Well, yes, all the other "interviews" were just based on CUSA promo material, so it was basically "repeating itself" (reviews, interviews haven`t seen before with Barry, just with Leo)
Seems Barry believes there is an agenda in the questions, while we believe he should have better and more open bussiness agenda, not a hidden plan.
Again, big promises, this time of traffic to amiga.org
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Good! Maybe we'll get the answer to cake vs pie.
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did wayne sell amiga.org to commodore usa?
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was it for sale?
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The dude should just focus on products. If people don't like them, they don't have to buy them. I would have bought a C64 case thing if it had real function keys instead of silly media keys.
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Aaaand yep, blatant pitching of this as a way to increase site traffic. I look forward to the point when Our Beloved New Site Owner starts trying to achieve Facebook [strike]assimilation[/strike] integration, or some other crap designed to increase traffic. I've already watched better sites self-destruct in pursuit of pageviews; I don't look forward to that happening here, but the way things have been going in recent months, I can't say I'd be surprised.
Anyway, I'm still holding out to see whether he means every question, or simply "every question on the cherry-picked list."
"Remember, kids, it doesn't matter whether it's good or bad, important or irrelevant, despised or beloved - the only measure of value is how many people are looking at it!"
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I'm fed up with eating popcorn..
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I'm fed up with eating popcorn..
Exactly! Pie vs Cake!
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Exactly! Pie vs Cake!
Pie of course. Cake is bourgeois decadence :whack:
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don't it depend on what pie and what cake?
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(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/5649/dilbert20120411.jpg)
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Pie of course. Cake is bourgeois decadence :whack:
You can't beat a proper thick crust apple pie!!
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As the boing ball turns...
YAWN.
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(http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/80000/6000/200/86283/86283.strip.gif)
There is a doubt whether Barry would qualify for the hairy boss or catbert, the evil director of HR. Probably mixed as no imaginary character should be built upon real man virtues.
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I took EVERY single question....even the "snarky" ones....and will probably add the few that came in right before you closed the thread. The format was cleaned up, and I belive the list was posted on your site. *Take a look. Not one question was deleted, nor will they be edited, except where needed for a PG rating.
Barry*
I always ment PG rating is given by a national come-tee. Even so, we are all adults here :-)
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Will this never end...
Fear not faithful Amiga.org traveller the end is near.
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What does that mean exactly?
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What does that mean exactly?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon
;-)
desiv
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When this is posted, someone pastebin the Q & A session and shoot me a link to it so I can read it without feeling like a whore for pageviews and ad revenue. Not going to witness this parody of a Q & A.
How Transition isn't completely patronized at the "Get ready for some serious traffic....hope your servers can handle it." comment is beyond me. A.org was here back when Barry was selling cheap furniture (with BBB complaints), it'll be here long after the almighty C-USA.
A company that for years has essentially been squeezing the rotted teets of the Commodore/Amiga on A.org, now they are telling you essentially "you're in the big leagues now, Kid! Stick with me!"?
Nonsense. Offensive.
"I plan on adding quite a few more that were not even thought of by the members."
No one asked you to do that - and the fact you stated such is a clear indication that the whole thing will be a fluff session Q&A scattered among lots of propaganda like "We are here because we love the Amiga" (despite the fact our products have nothing to do with the Amiga), and other such forward thinking PR horseplop.
Fool me once....
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"Get ready for some serious traffic....hope your servers can handle it.
This one deserves to be quoted, taglined etc. It`s bold statement,
almost like Anonymous and a nice PR stunt
It might also express low opinion on A.org servers :-)
But if and when the servers survive,
boy they are gonna be Amiga!
"Get ready for some serious traffic" :hammer:
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I always hated soaps! I could easily punch Wayne in the chops for letting this happen to a.org.
Damn you Wayne.
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Since it will be PG, showing one boob will be allowed.
:)
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Since it will be PG, showing one boob will be allowed.
One boob, eh? Barry's got that role filled.
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you just gotta love dilbert....
(http://weblog.cemper.com/files/u2/dilbert-fraud-marketing.gif)
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you just gotta love dilbert....
(http://weblog.cemper.com/files/u2/dilbert-fraud-marketing.gif)
that one sums up CUSA brilliantly. :roflmao:
-- eliyahu
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you just gotta love dilbert....
(http://weblog.cemper.com/files/u2/dilbert-fraud-marketing.gif)
+1 :roflmao:I have kept quiet over the last two threads but that pretty much sums everything up. I laughed and laughed. And I had cake.
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Since it will be PG, showing one boob will be allowed.
:)
Can't show nipple anymore, for it to be PG. So the strip clubs say. ;)
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Pie of course. Cake is bourgeois decadence :whack:
I want CAKE! Im not communist! but one request it has to be in the same shape and colour as Kickstart v1.2 screen :)
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I'm looking forward to the answer to the "What will it take to make you go away" question...
/hopes
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I think Barry Altman is this guy, and Commodore USA is really Commodore SI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq9TnI7ssTU
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I think Barry Altman is this guy, and Commodore USA is really Commodore SI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq9TnI7ssTU
Sheogorath (in Daedric script, ) is the Daedric Prince of Madness, whose motives are said to be unknowable. His realm in Oblivion is known as the Madhouse, though it has also been called the Asylums by the Imperial Census of Daedra Lords, and called the Shivering Isles by most. It is split into two parts. Mania, the fantastic, colorful side, and Dementia, the horrific, swampy side.
There are interesting quotes like
"Why not? Something has to work. Once, I dug a pit and filled it with clouds. Or was it clowns? Doesn't matter. It didn't slow him down. To be honest, it wasn't the best idea. And it really began to smell. Must have been clowns. Clouds don't smell bad. They taste of butter! And tears."
Also the whizz has certain artifacts
Wabbajack is a mysterious staff that changes any enemy into another random creature. This can completely change a battle by transforming an enemy into something weaker, or possibly something much stronger. As with most all of Sheogorath's work, it should be used with caution. The staff also has the small chance of instantly killing the enemy and turning them into ghostly remains.
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Glad to see someone knows Oblivion, oh my it is a fun game
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Sheogorath and the Wabbajack both have appearances in Skyrim, too. Of course, if you played Shivering Isles and did all the quests including the main one, that means you have a cameo in Skyrim!
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But what if I don't play games as a dude? Sheogorath in Skyrim is freaking weird, I think he was more fun in SI.
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Sheogorath and the Wabbajack both have appearances in Skyrim, too. Of course, if you played Shivering Isles and did all the quests including the main one, that means you have a cameo in Skyrim!
Either Duke or him in next cameo should say
"Get ready for some serious traffic....hope your servers can handle it.
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His cronies have gone very quiet, it must be all hands on deck to answer these questions.
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Surely, cronies will be back with a berserk once "answers have been given" (in their eyes = CUSA Truth have been told)
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Hi,
@Transition,
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Amiga.org people
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of course, Barry.
First let me say that I am happy that someone is off in the right direction in trying to start or bring out a new Amiga & C64.
BUT
To bring out a machine that almost every Amiga owner has in a small degree, like me, I have a Quad Core 6600, and an AMD six core 1090T, that are running one of my favorite programs Cloanto's Amiga Forever. Now why in the hello Amiga world should I buy your product Barry, you are asking me to downgrade to a lesser computer just to run something like a winuae emulator with nothing less then a cheap in expensive micro ATX board which probably couldn't run most of todays modern day Windows games. Give me one good reason why I should pay twice the price of my semi modern computer gaming machines to buy your crap. To get a C64 case or a A4000, A3000, A2000, or A1000 look alike case, sorry but I have all of them, and I can put in a modern day board that would make your computer look like a Chevy, you know like a rock, something that is dead and (no life) and found alongside the road not moving.
Sorry I alread have a machine that moves 6 times faster than what you are bringing out at about one eight of the price.
AND IT PLAYS WINDOWS GAMES, AND RUNS UBUNTU LINUX. What a deal.
I look at products, and determine "What real use or new joy will it bring to me"?
As much as I hate Macs, I would rather buy a G4 Mac and run MorphOS.
Thanks for the try though Barry
smerf
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smerf, yes but your 6 core machine that costs 1/3 of the cusa pc's dosn't have an amiga sticker! come on man, your paying for the sticker. Those are nice stickers. Now that they have moved from stickers to engraving, the price has to double, don't you know anything about computers?
Apparently, you have a grip on reality. In order to understand CUSA and their computers, you have to lose that grip and live in a fantasy land.
Maybe you just need to take the same drugs that the cusa cool aid drinking "employees" and followers are taking.
Stop spreading true statements. CUSA does not like that.
Personally, I can't wait to hear the answers to those questions. Cop outs, excuses, lies, half truths, grandiose drug or stupidity induced fantasies and embellishments here we come.
Steven
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Their own forum probably has 1/10 the amount of traffic than Amiga.org , and it's horribly slow.
We should ask Barry to post his response there and watch it crash.
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Their own forum probably has 1/10 the amount of traffic than Amiga.org , and it's horribly slow.
We should ask Barry to post his response there and watch it crash.
Are you suggesting their servers "can't handle the traffic!?" ;D
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:laughing:
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Are you suggesting their servers "can't handle the traffic!?" ;D
Precisely. I propose they post a link in the answers for all the comments to the Q&A to be posted at commodore-Amiga.org - or better yet vice versa, since they delete all non-pro CUSA posts.
Either way, their site will crash from the traffic.
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Their own forum probably has 1/10 the amount of traffic than Amiga.org , and it's horribly slow.
We should ask Barry to post his response there and watch it crash.
No, no, that forum is all polished and censored. Its not for the tricky questions. Plus they hope to get some convertits from here to their own realm.
On all other, I agree
Get ready for some serious traffic....hope your servers can handle it.
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Are you suggesting their servers "can't handle the traffic!?" ;D
They're obviously using one of their own machines. ;)
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dilbert keep bringing it, lol....
(http://i.imgur.com/2rMgh.jpg)
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This week: Barry answers all of your questions.
Next week children, Barry will demonstrate how to nail jelly to the ceiling and prove that black is actually white, followed by some fantastic adventures in the world of creative accounting.
Meh.
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Hey, look on the positive side -- it's an Amiga-related (sort-of) pre-announcement that may happen on time.
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Hey, look on the positive side -- it's an Amiga-related (sort-of) pre-announcement that may happen on time.
Hmmm ... don`t you think "sort of" should move before "Amiga related"?
Rest might be true, but it`s only an question session announcement, not a product announcement. We had these before :-)
dilbert keep bringing it, lol....
(http://i.imgur.com/2rMgh.jpg)
Dilbert explains capitalism well :-)
Loyalty would be a great factor in Amigaland
IF it was really Amiga(OS) related.
And hope we don`t get any more lame companies :-)
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Greetings,
Good! Maybe we'll get the answer to cake vs pie.
Cakes are too sweet for me, pies are great when they're fresh out of oven! ;)
(http://geekcrafts.com/wp-content/geek_craft_images/3063024748_7d252abc83.jpg)
Have some apple pie?
Regards,
Gizz72
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Greetings,
Cakes are too sweet for me, pies are great when they're fresh out of oven! ;)
(http://geekcrafts.com/wp-content/geek_craft_images/3063024748_7d252abc83.jpg)
Have some apple pie?
Regards,
Gizz72
Its 16th in Central Europe and news is Broadway 0.8.
Nice AROS package
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=61355
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Free Preview:
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Drum roll!!! It's the 16th...
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Drum roll!!! It's the 16th...
To be fair, its only the 15th in the US
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Newsflash - Cat tries to sell overpriced pcceees for emulation :)
(http://2pep.com/funny%20pics/very%20funny%20hilarious%20strange%20pictures%20cool%20images/27/super_funny_hilarious_worlds%20funniest_pictures_of_animated-gifs-07-1.gif)
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Yall are a bunch of children. At least wait for the response to the questions before blowing your wads in the forum.
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It is now the 16th and the time is 12:54PM :-/
I'm waiting...
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Yall are a bunch of children. At least wait for the response to the questions before blowing your wads in the forum.
Isn't that what you did before? dissing the x1000's xena without even having used one?
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To be fair, its only the 15th in the US
Now is 16th in the morning, must be past midnight in US. Surely, 2/3 of the day to go and news is Jack for all AmigaOS / MOS / AROS flavours
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dilbert strikes again....
(http://jeffpaschall.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/dilbert.jpg)
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Yall are a bunch of children. At least wait for the response to the questions before blowing your wads in the forum.
Like trolls have self control.
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Like trolls have self control.
And those servers, what a shame, its 3PM CET and they are not yet down
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@amiga.org moderator and/or admin
You have an error from the CUSA thread that was recently moved to this forum:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=69
The thread shows under the link:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/
but does not appear in the forum.
The direct link produces a vbulletin error:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=61362
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It is actually true that the servers will be under unusually high load - after all, a lot of people are interested in what Barry has to say.
Thing is they're probably not interested for the reasons C=USA think....
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It is actually true that the servers will be under unusually high load - after all, a lot of people are interested in what Barry has to say.
Thing is they're probably not interested for the reasons C=USA think....
Make everyone anxious and waiting, just like when they released CommodoreOS.
And, once again answer will be 42.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aboZctrHfK8
Poor servers. They might be down for no good reason.
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Like trolls have self control.
Almost as much control as CUSA Spammers?
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Frankly I'd prefer not to give these people any voice, but it's already too late to put that cat in the bag.
Real innovations sometimes get delayed, I seriously doubt this marketing ploy will get delayed, why wouldn't that roll out like clockwork?
Look, as one of the question askers, they have my permission to delay this till tomorrow, till next week, or to next year, or never answer the question - I could care less about them being communicative.
For snake oil salesmen, it's communication, not the snake oil, that is their true stock-in-trade.
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Almost as much control as CUSA Spammers?
Nice trolling.
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Nice trolling.
Thanks! Now, back on topic. Where are the answers we are supposed to get today? Did you ring Barry up and he say "in about a week"?
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Well, it's now 10:15 CST, and still nothing.
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Certainly "when it is done" :-)
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Thanks! Now, back on topic. Where are the answers we are supposed to get today? Did you ring Barry up and he say "in about a week"?
I have no idea, I do not work for C=USA and I haven't talked to Barry in a few weeks. Last C=USA person I talked to was when I went down to C=USA HQ and met with Leo prior to his returning to Australia.
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When Barry e-mails me the answers I will post them. To be far he has until 11:59 PM EST but I would expect them before that time.
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you just gotta love dilbert....
(http://weblog.cemper.com/files/u2/dilbert-fraud-marketing.gif)
:roflmao:
That strip pretty much sums up everything Amiga(tm) stands for today, after the last 1.5 decade. Spot on! :lol:
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dilbert keep bringing it, lol....
(http://i.imgur.com/2rMgh.jpg)
+1 :lol:
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I have no idea, I do not work for C=USA and I haven't talked to Barry in a few weeks. Last C=USA person I talked to was when I went down to C=USA HQ and met with Leo prior to his returning to Australia.
You seem to do a awful of visits and sucking up for a non-employee. Is there something about you that puts them off hiring you?
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You seem to do a awful of visits and sucking up for a non-employee. Is there something about you that puts them off hiring you?
Yeah: he hasn't bought a VIC Slim ;D
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When Barry e-mails me the answers I will post them. To be far he has until 11:59 PM EST but I would expect them before that time.
They did similar with "COS release" but its just a bit more unprofessional-ism, with a goal to produce "excitement"? And it is (will be) just a Q&A session ...
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You seem to do a awful of visits and sucking up for a non-employee. Is there something about you that puts them off hiring you?
Contrator for photoshop work? Investor? supplier? Barry's golf caddy? Gets free stuff ? Just speculation but Dammy hasn't denied a connection with CUSA, he just states he's not an employee.
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When Barry e-mails me the answers I will post them. To be far.......
How far, exactly? If you mean Barry, then hopefully very far away......too far is not far enough....
Like this:-
Two more weeks?
/sarcasm (in case you were wondering...)
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Feel that tug, Transition?
That's Barry pulling at your Johnson, using your time and your site to "build hype" just like he's done with every other thing they have done here.
11:59pm marketing strategy - take something that was a mere Q&A, a chance to "clear the record" and try and turn it into a Media Event, like anyone gives a crap, lol.
You should be ashamed that you are being milked like a stolen goat, tbh. But maybe it's a group effort.
Like I said, someone PM or email me a pastebin link.
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I think that Barry secretly hoped that the Mayans were right and that the World would end before he had to post the answers...... or maybe he's about to take up my offer of 10p, a marble and some pocket fluff...
I really want some other answers, like this for example, that could be asked of Barry's wife...
"Is Barry a bit of an anti-climax between the sheets too, or does he love himself too much...??"
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I have no doubt the answers will come - there is simply no way he could weasel out of the whole deal now, they are in too deep.
But man, be prompt, be courteous. You're up at the crack of dawn running a company with 30 million in ad budget, don't do this rinky dink stuff with "hype".
It's a Q and A session, not a press release.
Leave the drama at home and be professional for once.
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I have no doubt the answers will come - there is simply no way he could weasel out of the whole deal now, they are in too deep.
But man, be prompt, be courteous. You're up at the crack of dawn running a (supposed) company with 30 million in ad budget (allegedly), don't do this rinky dink stuff with "hype".
It's a Q and A session, not a press release.
Leave the drama at home and be professional for once.
Some slight editing was needed there...
You obviously don't know these guys like some of the members on here do...
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It is now 7:30 AM on the 17th. Angry pants are now on :mad:
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It is now 7:30 AM on the 17th. Angry pants are now on :mad:
According to moo - Barry is busy preparing a huge agreement.....
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It is now 7:30 AM on the 17th. Angry pants are now on :mad:
It's "only" 5:45 PM on the 16th Barry's time. I'm sure he's working late into the night on it.:pint:
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...and where did my poll go? :rant:
I mean seriously, was that trolling? :confused:
Anyway i'm sure they had a good reason :)
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Oh man, I can`t believe we spaced out the date :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n2MqPpWKnY
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Contrator for photoshop work? Investor? supplier? Barry's golf caddy? Gets free stuff ? Just speculation but Dammy hasn't denied a connection with CUSA, he just states he's not an employee.
Good thinking. He's a "contractor" or a "consultant". I believe you've hit teh nail on the head.
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...and where did my poll go? :rant:
I mean seriously, was that trolling? :confused:
Anyway i'm sure they had a good reason :)
I hope it wasnt my vote for pancakes that forced the tipping point of things in too much perspective.
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...and where did my poll go? :rant:
Deleted, as it was an "Earlybird"
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Hey Guys! I came here looking for answers.
Guess I'll check back tomorrow.
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Try checking at the end of the week.... Not that I know anything.
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You seem to do a awful of visits and sucking up for a non-employee. Is there something about you that puts them off hiring you?
And exactly what is your problem with Dammy?
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And exactly what is your problem with Dammy?
Here since 2002 and you don't know the issue with Dammy?
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At least with Apple fanboys, they actually use the product they are fanboys for.
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And exactly what is your problem with Dammy?
If you have to ask then you're obviously trolling.
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I'm getting to old for this, Barry is keeping me up way past my bedtime.
:(
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We used to get excited about vapor ware
Things have become so bad we're excited about a vapor quesionaire
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If you have to ask then you're obviously trolling.
I don't even get your problem with CUSA, let alone Dammy. But you didn't evene manage to answer a simple question without resorting to the T word.
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Here since 2002 and you don't know the issue with Dammy?
I know Dammy, not only from here, I know him from Moo and AW, please, do tell.
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I know Dammy, not only from here, I know him from Moo and AW, please, do tell.
If you know him from moo, AW and here and are ignorant of the issue then I have nothing to educate you with that will not fall on obvious deaf ears.
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I know Dammy, not only from here, I know him from Moo and AW, please, do tell.
For the sake of clarification, the problem with dammy (at least on A.org, I don't know about Moobunny or AmigaWorld) is that he has spent the last year actively spamming for CUSA here - every thread he's started since this one (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57108) last March has been a plug for them. Either he's affiliated with them as a PR spammer (though he claims not to be an employee) or he makes a hobby out of spamming for a fly-by-night outfit selling ludicrously-priced, poorly-built PCs under the name of a dead computer company and brands that they have nothing in common with; either way, he's persistently annoying, and rude about it to boot.
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and rude about it to boot.
I posted my first post in a very long time (lurker for years, previously had a news item of mine on the front page in ~2000) and I was flamed by many people as being a CUSA troll, (I'm not) buuuuut then dammy started talking about my tits. :evil:
For the record the hatred I felt in that thread made me wonder if this community was one I wanted to be a part of, but that is another matter altogether.
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There's nothing wrong with Dammy, there is however, something seriously wrong with a small number of folks who appear to be obsessed with him for some bizarre reason.
he's persistently annoying
You're 10x more annoying than he is. Seriously, you've no legitimate reason to complain about his behavior when you've posted 10x more CUSA related crap than he has, and even though the CUSA thread is buried in the back of the site and hidden from view, you still go in there and crap all over the place. Now that's rude, obnoxious behavior. You might want to take a look in the mirror before you start talking crap about other people.
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I posted my first post in a very long time (lurker for years, previously had a news item of mine on the front page in ~2000) and I was flamed by many people as being a CUSA troll, (I'm not) buuuuut then dammy started talking about my tits. :evil:
For the record the hatred I felt in that thread made me wonder if this community was one I wanted to be a part of, but that is another matter altogether.
what was the story?
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what was the story?
It was about iWin.
Remember those guys, trying to scam us poor miggy users. Glad that business is all finished and we won't have to worry about scammers any longer. Now pardon me while I await my new Panda board from Troika.
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even though the CUSA thread is buried in the back of the site and hidden from view, you still go in there and crap all over the place. Now that's rude, obnoxious behavior. You might want to take a look in the mirror before you start talking crap about other people.
These threads show up in the "new posts" viewer, which is the only place I really look for forum activity. I don't hunt them down as you seem to think.
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Well, it's the 17th, and Barry has taken brinksmanship to a whole new level of fail.
@ Transition
I feel sorry for you, in a way; you've been set up and screwed over, just like all of us have been over the years. Welcome to our World.
You just might see the replies in "Two more weeks".
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It was about iWin.
Remember those guys, trying to scam us poor miggy users. Glad that business is all finished and we won't have to worry about scammers any longer. Now pardon me while I await my new Panda board from Troika.
from around the time of the demise of amiga format to around mid 2000's i didnt really follow anything
i still used my a1200 and dot matrix for word processing at uni though!!
(I was poor)
do you have a link to the article?
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There's nothing wrong with Dammy, there is however, something seriously wrong with a small number of folks who appear to be obsessed with him for some bizarre reason.
You're 10x more annoying than he is. Seriously, you've no legitimate reason to complain about his behavior when you've posted 10x more CUSA related crap than he has, and even though the CUSA thread is buried in the back of the site and hidden from view, you still go in there and crap all over the place. Now that's rude, obnoxious behavior. You might want to take a look in the mirror before you start talking crap about other people.
Thanks for typing that up for me. ;D
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For the record the hatred I felt in that thread made me wonder if this community was one I wanted to be a part of, but that is another matter altogether.
Well, not everyone is to like / accept the "rape of computer culture".
CUSA might look polite and customer oriented, but there is a real "trolling patrol"
trying to spread the "word of new" "Amiga". So big provocation invokes emotional responses.
In all other aspects this community (not only here) is helping and giving good advices, its CUSA that isn`t part of it and tries to penetrate so hard.
So I testify that Dammy has 99% done only adverts for CUSA at any Amiga board.
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Well, not everyone is to like / accept the "rape of computer culture".
CUSA might look polite and customer oriented, but there is a real "trolling patrol"
trying to spread the "word of new" "Amiga". So big provocation invokes emotional responses.
In all other aspects this community (not only here) is helping and giving good advices, its CUSA that isn`t part of it and tries to penetrate so hard.
So I testify that Dammy has 99% done only adverts for CUSA at any Amiga board.
You can testify all you want. However everyone knows you can't comprehend what you read anyway.
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At the very least the whole Amiga Mini = standard Windows box in standard HTPC case is FACT.
Given the excellent advice offered to CUSA after C64x to improve their future product lines the VIC Slim and Amiga Mini are a massive step backwards.
I'm not saying ARESOne is perfect (they don't have Amiga looking cases) but with AROS full compatibility and AROSBIOS features they are serious about giving you some kind of x86 Amiga compatible.
Now given that CUSA DID make a custom C64 mk1 case and keyboard (inaccurate but this is today a less versatile style in the consumer view) AND that fundamentally short of booting from a blank screen directly into VICE C64 emulator full screen there was no C64 OS usable.
With Amiga things are different-
1. We have both AIO keyboard (A500/600/1200), HTPC (CDTV + WIRELESS Keyboard/mouse/remote) or 3 box setup like tower desktop (1000,1500,2000,3000,4000) styles to replicate.
2. We have 3 new OS choices (OS4/AROS/MOS) plus Amithlon+Amiga OS3.9. The architecture they chose is x86 but not even tested for Amithlon/AROS hardware compatibility.
3. Even A2000/3000/4000 keyboards are unique and different to PC keyboards but not even an A2000 style keyboard with 10 F keys only etc is being made.
So unless points 1,2,3 are not addressed, or even 1&2 alone, why would people here want it.
I might as well put Amiga 2000 sticker on fridges and sell those, both CUSA and my Amiga Fridges Inc product fail on points 1,2 and 3 but summer is coming and you need to keep the beers cool so mine is more useful :)
(The Amiga logo is done for free at the Chinese supplier after ordering in quantities of just 300)
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For the sake of clarification, the problem with dammy (at least on A.org, I don't know about Moobunny or AmigaWorld) is that he has spent the last year actively spamming for CUSA here - every thread he's started since this one (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57108) last March has been a plug for them. Either he's affiliated with them as a PR spammer (though he claims not to be an employee) or he makes a hobby out of spamming for a fly-by-night outfit selling ludicrously-priced, poorly-built PCs under the name of a dead computer company and brands that they have nothing in common with; either way, he's persistently annoying, and rude about it to boot.
Spammer of a Commodore Amiga products on an Amiga related site, that's really awkward and misplaced... bad Dammy!! He should have known that only AmigaOne overpriced and classic line spam is supported! I should tell him that.
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And bad CUSA which wasn't able to use AROS so it wouldn't go against Hyperion AmigaOne line of products.
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AmigaOne is overprized (compared to standard hardware) but at least it has something to do with the community (in opposite to CUSA). And when you read their answers Barry clearly stated that he has not invested anything in any of the camps and is not interested to change that. So he can keep his money (and products) and does not nerve the community.
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Even if he is not allowed to preinstall Aros he could have supported driver development and could have created a kind of "Aros ready" system. He did not and said it would be a "waste of money" so I do not see any link to the community.
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Nobody knows what C= would have been if not bankrupt but I suppose that they will be doing PC under windows because of the reality of economics. Strange thing is that C=USA are just doing that but many don't buy it weird isn't it?
Kamel
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I am sure they would not. Perhaps they would have created something similar to the Macs (PC+Linux-Kernel+own desktop).
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And if they had evolved into using Windows we'd have gone onto using something else, whether it was Commodore or not.
People seem to think that Amiga users are blind Commodore users who'd still be using Commodore "Amiga" machines that were just PCs at an inflated price, just because Commodore did it. That's not true - our loyalty is to the platform, not the brand. So anyone's assertions of "Ah, but Commodore would be using Wintel now, we're just doing the same as they would" is completely irrelevant, because if Commodore were using Wintel, we wouldn't be using them - we'd still be using our Amigas.
AmigaOS could be called StinkweedOS for all I care, and CommodoreOS Vision could be called AmigaOS - I'd still not use it.
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There's nothing wrong with Dammy.
http://www.amiga.org/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=139
hmmmm.....
I find your response to this poll rather revealing. So, why such a CUSA fanboy koaftder?
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Why was the Answers thread (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=61375) pulled from the front page? I'm sure it was there before...?
Seems kind of backwards to have one (or was it even two, or more?) threads about collecting questions, another telling when the answers to be published, etc, *all* those on the front page, but then when the answers actually get here, you hide *that* thread away? A bit schizophrenic if you ask me, especially since it is the Amiga.org staff that is managing the whole circus! :crazy:
Make a decision and stick to it, allow CUSA related threads on the front page, or don't!
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Nobody knows what C= would have been if not bankrupt but I suppose that they will be doing PC under windows because of the reality of economics. Strange thing is that C=USA are just doing that but many don't buy it weird isn't it?
Kamel
I don't really give a damn what they would or wouldn't have done - Commodore never really understood the value of what they had anyway. If they had decided to suddenly turn a unique and elegant system into just another clone of a slipshod computer running a slipshod OS, I'd be just as uninterested as I am now. I don't understand why so many people here don't get this: it's the thing that matters, not the name.
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Well, not everyone is to like / accept the "rape of computer culture".
CUSA might look polite and customer oriented, but there is a real "trolling patrol"
trying to spread the "word of new" "Amiga". So big provocation invokes emotional responses.
In all other aspects this community (not only here) is helping and giving good advices, its CUSA that isn`t part of it and tries to penetrate so hard.
So I testify that Dammy has 99% done only adverts for CUSA at any Amiga board.
So why do you keep dragging me into your trollish posts? You rant, rave, spam, and then blame all your pathetic actions on me? Get real, people can see how little I post vs your spamming of C=USA hate posts all over the place.
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If you know him from moo, AW and here and are ignorant of the issue then I have nothing to educate you with that will not fall on obvious deaf ears.
That's OK, your hate is pretty amusing most of the time to read.
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Even if he is not allowed to preinstall Aros he could have supported driver development and could have created a kind of "Aros ready" system. He did not and said it would be a "waste of money" so I do not see any link to the community.
There's a conflit of interests with the Hyperion clause, the way I interpret it is like 'not worth the legal harassment'...
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You can testify all you want. However everyone knows you can't comprehend what you read anyway.
My comprehension skills are OK, thanks for asking.
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In a way it's a cold dose of reality, the Amiga is not coming back, there is no glorious future where Amiga competes with Apple & Google. Appreciate what you have, love your classic machines and emulators. They are what is important.
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So why do you keep dragging me into your trollish posts? You rant, rave, spam, and then blame all your pathetic actions on me? Get real, people can see how little I post vs your spamming of C=USA hate posts all over the place.
OK, call it as you like it, thing is that leave aside CUSA, you should try aiding other community related issues and problems people do have, if you are up to the task.
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It is his decision but I think even Aros could not have done anything if it would have been compatible. And noone could have done anything against them if they would have supported bounties. And even if they were not allowed to sell "Amigas" with preinstalled Aros they still could have sold Aros-PCs under another name similar to "AresOne".
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For the sake of clarification, the problem with dammy (at least on A.org, I don't know about Moobunny or AmigaWorld) is that he has spent the last year actively spamming for CUSA here - every thread he's started since this one (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=57108) last March has been a plug for them. Either he's affiliated with them as a PR spammer (though he claims not to be an employee) or he makes a hobby out of spamming for a fly-by-night outfit selling ludicrously-priced, poorly-built PCs under the name of a dead computer company and brands that they have nothing in common with; either way, he's persistently annoying, and rude about it to boot.
Care to count the number of posts I have done vs your constant C=USA hate trolling posts? No, I doubt you would want to take that long task of counting every hate filled post you have submitted on AO and AWN to my few posts. As of late, I'm mostly defending against lies and smears against my person as you seem to think it's OK to build up lies (like your post above) against me and then blame me for spamming those lies against me.
Lets look at the facts (something you no doubt would not want to do), what is the last thread I created on AO about C=USA? And what date was that? Why it was January and here it is middle of April and you claiming I'm spamming? One thread in three months, which I posted in the hidden CommodoreUSA subboard so dainty little eyes such as yours won't melt, except you go to that hidden subboard and troll away with your hate of C=USA posts.
I'm not the one spamming, it's you and the other trolls.
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Blah blah blah. Persia is correct, the Amiga as it was is a pure nostalgia, even Natami is IMHO (and that's no dig at Natami, it's a great project). AROS, MOS and OS4 are interesting to some of us but will never make the impact that classic Amigas did. That's not a dig either, I wish them all the best.
CUSA have the name, that's all, nothing else, zip, zilch, nothing! They are, when all is said and done, an irrelevance.
The best we can ever truly hope for is for another platform to make an impact in a similar way. Hardware wise, that could happen with a memresistor based FPGA based machine and a nice new shiny OS to go with it. To be honest, I don't think it will. Someone needs a lot of cash and skills to go with some dynamic marketing to get it done. I doubt if anyone is going to take that sort of a plunge. I don't see any other technologies around right now that could achieve anything radical in any sort of reasonable time frame either. So as Persia said, enjoy what you have. Don't expect anything from CUSA beyond Amiga badged PC's, it ain't happening.
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That's OK, your hate is pretty amusing most of the time to read.
Kisses :banana:
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No, I doubt you would want to take that long task of counting every hate filled post you have submitted on AO and AWN to my few posts.
I'm not a poster on AWN. Is someone impersonating me there? Or is it just a coincidental sharing of username?
I'm also not sure where you're getting "hate-filled" from. I vehemently disagree with the things CUSA says and does, and I consider you a spammer because of your spamming, but frankly I don't have the energy to expend real hatred on you. If "says mean things about a company I like" counts as "hate-filled" to you, then I guess there's no way around that.
As of late, I'm mostly defending against lies and smears against my person as you seem to think it's OK to build up lies (like your post above) against me and then blame me for spamming those lies against me.
I beg your pardon, but what in that post was a lie? I said that every thread you started since the thread I linked has been a shill for CUSA. This is demonstrably true. Have a look, if you don't believe me. (http://www.amiga.org/forums/search.php?searchid=2276626) The other stuff is speculation, but it's admitted speculation, and if you want to clear up exactly what the nature of your relationship with CUSA is, I'll withdraw even that.
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Kisses :banana:
That's my rat!
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That's my rat!
that was totally moo gay.
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That's my rat!
It just isn't a party until the dancing bananas come out!
Its entertainment. Anyone who takes this stuff too seriously all of the time needs a different hobby. Plus, I don't have a psycho canadian closet homo stalking me constantly on moo. It takes cajones to put up with that and not say to hell with this.
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I'm not a poster on AWN. Is someone impersonating me there? Or is it just a coincidental sharing of username?
I'm also not sure where you're getting "hate-filled" from. I vehemently disagree with the things CUSA says and does, and I consider you a spammer because of your spamming, but frankly I don't have the energy to expend real hatred on you. If "says mean things about a company I like" counts as "hate-filled" to you, then I guess there's no way around that.
How else could one explain your none stop attacks/trolling when the subject comes up, even in a hidden subboard. It's not like you are just posting a single post, you just keep hammering away, like a good little troll.
I beg your pardon, but what in that post was a lie?
That I am spamming when people can clearly see by AO's search option that I am not spamming new threads, others are.
I said that every thread you started since the thread I linked has been a shill for CUSA.
I take it then you were a troll prior to this as well.
This is demonstrably true. Have a look, if you don't believe me. (http://www.amiga.org/forums/search.php?searchid=2276626) The other stuff is speculation, but it's admitted speculation, and if you want to clear up exactly what the nature of your relationship with CUSA is, I'll withdraw even that.
I don't know WTF you are going on about, I've posted what, two/three (one was a separate update of another thread that I am counting) threads, in a hidden subboard no less, since Nov yet you and a hand full of others are continuing to troll along spewing hate and blame me for activity that I haven't been doing?
As far as my relationship as of today with C=USA, I am a friend of Barry and Leo, and I am a supporter of C=USA. Soon as they produce a tower Commodore Amiga, I will be a customer of C=USA. I know, that really pisses you off, but it is what it is and I have a feeling you enjoy being pissed off. I wouldn't have posted as nearly as much in this thread if you and others were not attacking me personally for no freaking reason other then a need to take a continuous crap on someone.
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My comprehension skills are OK, thanks for asking.
Since I stated and didn't ask. Thanks for proving my point. ;)
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As far as my relationship as of today with C=USA,
What about yesterday, or last week, or last month, or last year?
Why play games with words?
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What about yesterday, or last week, or last month, or last year?
Why play games with words?
Yeah Dammy ... Tell the truth we all know Barry hired you back in 2002 as a mole. You two had planned on invading a.org ever since haven't you!!!!1111!!!!!oneoneoneexclamationpointexclamationpointexclamationpointeleventy!!!111
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How else could one explain your none stop attacks/trolling when the subject comes up, even in a hidden subboard. It's not like you are just posting a single post, you just keep hammering away, like a good little troll.
As I've said before, when a subject comes up that I have an opinion on, I engage in the discussion about it. If that's trolling, I'm not sure how every single member here isn't a troll by that standard. But whatever.
I don't know WTF you are going on about, I've posted what, two/three (one was a separate update of another thread that I am counting) threads, in a hidden subboard no less, since Nov yet you and a hand full of others are continuing to troll along spewing hate and blame me for activity that I haven't been doing?
I'm not blaming you for anything you haven't been doing. I said that every thread you've started since last spring has been a CUSA shill. Every thread. 100%. (And a sizeable percentage of your overall activity here in that time.) I'm not blaming you for the death of John Lennon, the continued existence of the Madagascar franchise, or the price of tea in China - I'm talking about your activity here, on this forum.
As far as my relationship as of today with C=USA, I am a friend of Barry and Leo, and I am a supporter of C=USA. Soon as they produce a tower Commodore Amiga, I will be a customer of C=USA. I know, that really pisses you off, but it is what it is and I have a feeling you enjoy being pissed off. I wouldn't have posted as nearly as much in this thread if you and others were not attacking me personally for no freaking reason other then a need to take a continuous crap on someone.
Fair enough. But just for the record, I'm not pissed off by your liking CUSA. (Baffled, yes, but not pissed off.) I am somewhat irritated by the fact that shilling for them is very nearly all you do here.
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Yeah Dammy ... Tell the truth we all know Barry hired you back in 2002 as a mole. You two had planned on invading a.org ever since haven't you!!!!1111!!!!!oneoneoneexclamationpointexclamationpointexclamationpointeleventy!!!111
No wait, how do we know that Dammy isn't actually Barry himself?? After all you never see them in the same picture together! froth froth foam
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No wait, how do we know that Dammy isn't actually Barry himself?? After all you never see them in the same picture together! froth froth foam
I got it Dammy is Bill McEwen and Barry is BBRV. It's been a game to them since they pretended to be at odds over the Amiga name.
This must be the case because Dammy mentions speaking to BBRV and Barry mentions speaking to Bill McEwen.
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is it me but aint it only dammy who keeps puking commodore usa propaganda
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Barry, Bill and Dammy sounds a bit like the Jim Carrey film Me, Myself and Irene and probably makes the same amount of sense...
As for Barry's replies - tl;dr and meh, in no particular order. He hasn't won the punters over, that's obvious. The searching questions like "What will it take to make you go away" were ignored, yet they were probably the most relevant.
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i got it dammy is bill mcewen and barry is bbrv. It's been a game to them since they pretended to be at odds over the amiga name.
This must be the case because dammy mentions speaking to bbrv and barry mentions speaking to bill mcewen.
How deep does this rabbit hole go??
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http://www.amiga.org/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=139
hmmmm.....
I find your response to this poll rather revealing. So, why such a CUSA fanboy koaftder?
The results make no sense. I only voted once yet my name is listed all over the place. I voted "Barry is the man!" because it was the stupidest answer. I also added the tags "trolling" and "fail" to the thread. As usual you're you're knee jerking and jumping to absurd conclusions.
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No wait, how do we know that Dammy isn't actually Barry himself?? After all you never see them in the same picture together! froth froth foam
LOL! Yeah, I'm still not convinced the moderators are real people either. I have a theory they are just moderator bots...
Anyway my 2 cents about CUSA with the Q&A is that they did the worst possible thing a startup business could have done. They alienated their market. CUSA is no giant company like Apple so they require full support of their target market to succeed. They basically shot themselves in the foot from day one. But otherwise i wish them the best even if i don't agree with the way they are doing it.
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Many of you are sinking to new levels. Left and right you nit pick every little detail and make mountains out of mole hills.
Nothing is good enough, is it? If Barry said tomorrow that he was going to drop the Amiga and Commodore name you all would demand that he pay to recall all the "Affronts to the Holy Name" and pay double!
And this attitude of, "I have an opinion on and I'm going to share it" is absolutely bunk since it is expressed in some of the most negative and hostile ways.
You can say "It's all in fun. He knows what I really mean. I have the freedom of speech" all you want but if you can not express your thoughts in a INTELLIGENT, NON-hostile way then KEEP THEM TO YOURSELVES!
A.ORG was not founded for this purpose nor shall it be allowed to promote them.
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LOL! Yeah, I'm still not convinced the moderators are real people either. I have a theory they are just moderator bots...
Anyway my 2 cents about CUSA with the Q&A is that they did the worst possible thing a startup business could have done. They alienated their market. CUSA is no giant company like Apple so they require full support of their target market to succeed. They basically shot themselves in the foot from day one. But otherwise i wish them the best even if i don't agree with the way they are doing it.
BEEP BEEP
10 print "+1"
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Certainly was a long and interesting read. Thanks for posting.
I always thought Commodore should have been left alone as a company and not been brought back at all.
I also think Amiga would have had more success competing along side Microsoft and Sony as a gaming platform, building on what they started with the CD32. I'd love to own an Amiga gaming console in the same style as the PS3 or X-Box. It would have been up there graphically with the best and would have also provided a platform for all the Amiga projects going on in the community, including retro game emulation.
I find Commodore USA a bit pointless to be honest, and agree that without the Amiga and Commodore labels no-one would even notice them at all, they would just be another online company selling custom built PC's, overpriced ones at that. Nothing Commodore or Amiga about it to be honest.
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Nothing is good enough, is it? If Barry said tomorrow that he was going to drop the Amiga and Commodore name you all would demand that he pay to recall all the "Affronts to the Holy Name" and pay double!
If he'd shut up and go away and find a different way to sell his overpriced PC clones than to appropriate the name of something he hasn't got squat to do with, that'd be plenty good enough, thanks.
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Many of you are sinking to new levels. Left and right you nit pick every little detail and make mountains out of mole hills.
Nothing is good enough, is it? If Barry said tomorrow that he was going to drop the Amiga and Commodore name you all would demand that he pay to recall all the "Affronts to the Holy Name" and pay double!
And this attitude of, "I have an opinion on and I'm going to share it" is absolutely bunk since it is expressed in some of the most negative and hostile ways.
You can say "It's all in fun. He knows what I really mean. I have the freedom of speech" all you want but if you can not express your thoughts in a INTELLIGENT, NON-hostile way then KEEP THEM TO YOURSELVES!
A.ORG was not founded for this purpose nor shall it be allowed to promote them.
Well, until I know his answer to Pie vs Cake, then
WHArrrrgarbl!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The results make no sense. I only voted once yet my name is listed all over the place. I voted "Barry is the man!" because it was the stupidest answer. I also added the tags "trolling" and "fail" to the thread. As usual you're you're knee jerking and jumping to absurd conclusions.
As usual? I think you're mistaking me for someone else. Most of the time I'm quite considerate and try to keep things civil, often making the point that we are all entitled to our own point of view. You need to chill out buddy, is it my fault that your name was all over the poll? I think not. Please, do tell me at what other point in time I made an "absurd conclusion" or "knee jerk" reaction, I would love to know.
No, on second thoughts, don't bother. Your opinion is of no importance to me anyway.
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is it me but aint it only dammy who keeps puking commodore usa propaganda
It's been the site admins that have been publishing stuff about C=USA on the front page. The few threads I have created since Nov, 2/3 of them, have been off the main page.
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As usual? I think you're mistaking me for someone else. Most of the time I'm quite considerate and try to keep things civil, often making the point that we are all entitled to our own point of view. You need to chill out buddy, is it my fault that your name was all over the poll? I think not. Please, do tell me at what other point in time I made an "absurd conclusion" or "knee jerk" reaction, I would love to know.
No, on second thoughts, don't bother. Your opinion is of no importance to me anyway.
My name is all over EVERY option in that poll... Mainly because it was a stupid poll and I decided it would be fun to mess with the results. :)
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My name is all over EVERY option in that poll... Mainly because it was a stupid poll and I decided it would be fun to mess with the results. :)
You anarchist, now if only you could do the same with the world stock exchanges we could have some real fun. :D
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(http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/5649/dilbert20120411.jpg)
Anti CUSA blog open, all comments and adds are welcome
http://anticusa.wordpress.com/
Someone please post it as news
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Ha!
I live 2 minutes away from that hotel where Barry did the telco and satellite instalations!
Small world.
And yes, they have rebuilt it. Tho, IMHO, it was nicer before.
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Ha!
I live 2 minutes away from that hotel where Barry did the telco and satellite instalations!
Small world.
And yes, they have rebuilt it. Tho, IMHO, it was nicer before.
Great he does furniture and cable. Nothing to do with Amiga, pathetic and agressive CEO.
Each man should stick to what he is good too, but now I am not gonna call him
for University furniture or cable satelitte TV and especially not for rebranded overpriced PeeCees
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Not that I am a big fan of what C= USA is doing but...did C= USA kill your family and set your livestock on fire or something?
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Not that I am a big fan of what C= USA is doing but...did C= USA kill your family and set your livestock on fire or something?
Constantly hurrased and humiliated me (trolls such as WolfToTheMoon) at AW.net and Barry told me I am psychotic madman. Just because I have a spirit of criticism and stand on ground. They desrved a compilation of little white capitalist lies ... as well as they do have OS4 counter information blog in Italian
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Setting up entire websites just to harass CUSA is going a little over the top isn't it?
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Setting up entire websites just to harass CUSA is going a little over the top isn't it?
Happens to Apple and Microsoft all the time. CUSA is one of the "big boys" right?
You gotta have a hater site, to be a serious business.
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Happens to Apple and Microsoft all the time. CUSA is one of the "big boys" right?
You gotta have a hater site, to be a serious business.
Point of blog is to preserve how unprofessional they are. Dont compare them to real big boys, please.
Add your two cents if you have them.
Thanks.
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Setting up entire websites just to harass CUSA is going a little over the top isn't it?
No, its just thanks for at least 2 years of harrasing real Amiga community with way to much BS and then we all should remember that if we buy any of their products we co finance Amiga Inc too
Great companies that deserve to be united in fall.
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CUSA is a gelding.
Point of blog is to preserve how unprofessional they are. Dont compare them to real big boys, please.
Add your two cents if you have them.
Thanks.
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CUSA is a gelding.
Needed dictionary for this one. By the news, it seems they claim to have both valls and Big Saussage ... yet ... Rome needs to be burned :flame:
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It's been the site admins that have been publishing stuff about C=USA on the front page. The few threads I have created since Nov, 2/3 of them, have been off the main page.
And you do find that being put to back at A.org and AW.net org is not interesting sign that shows that C=USA has allianted itself from basic target audience (Amigans?) :rtfm:
P.S. You have got a special page
http://anticusa.wordpress.com/commodoreusa-fanboys-n-spammers-list-block-em/