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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #14 from previous page: April 29, 2015, 08:46:25 PM »
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I have a 256MB FAT95-formatted SD card that I occasionally use for transferring files between my Amiga and PC (I have card readers in both, so I just pop from one to the other).  I set it up last year sometime, but having absolutely no experience with FAT95 prior to that, I can tell you I found it an absolutely infuriating head-scratcher of a PITA.  Much more difficult than it needed to be, with no clear online instructions or guides available anywhere.  :angry:

Hang tight, if you're unable to figure it out I'll try to make some screenshots of my config for you later today, might help?  Good luck!


Love to see some screenshots of your config.
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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2015, 04:59:27 AM »
As you can see, nothing too special going on here.  I can't for the life of me remember how I got it all set up.  I'm pretty sure I had to format the device on a PC though, possibly a couple times doing a "slow" format (un-check "quick"), before it took.  As you can see I used fat32, works fine, the Amiga recognizes it seamlessly.  Just like any other partition or removable disk.  Pop it out, the icon goes away off Workbench.  Pop it back in, it shows back up.

Maybe confirm your version of l:fat95 matches mine?

Actually, you know what?  I just turned around to take a couple more pictures.  You need to create a Devs/DOSDriver textfile for your device.  Last two pics is what mine looks like.  Struuugggling to recall, but I think this is where I had trouble - you need to create one, but where do you get the values?  I think this is where I really hit a wall, none of the examples are even close to what I was trying to do, eventually just wound up going with trial-and-error guesswork for things like "Unit #" (mine is different because the cardreader has LUN's...), etc.

Hope this helps!  :)

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« Last Edit: April 30, 2015, 05:19:40 AM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2015, 05:00:38 AM »
(set 2 of pictures)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2015, 05:10:39 AM »
One more pic.  You can see I thought I was being cute by giving it a Windows icon back when I set this up.  ;)
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2015, 05:14:07 AM »
Attached is a zip of my Dosdriver file (the text portion and the icon).  You should be able to extract this on your PC, and edit the text portion with any text editor on your Amiga.  Obviously you'll want to change the header, and the device (probably from gvpscsi.device to scsi.device or compactflash.device on the A1200), the Unit # (you should be able to get your unit # from HDToolbox, on an A1200 it'll probably be something obvious, like "1"), MaxTransfer, blah blah.  The only thing I have no idea what to tell you on is the "DosType" field.  Maybe try what I have in there and cross your fingers?  Good luck!  :D
« Last Edit: April 30, 2015, 04:41:10 PM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
Amiga 500: 2MB Chip|16MB Fast|30MHz 68030+68882|3.9|Indivision ECS|GVP A500HD+|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|Cocolino|SCSI DVD-RAM
Amiga 2000: 2MB Chip|136MB Fast|50MHz 68060|3.9|Indivision ECS + GVP Spectrum|Mechware card reader + 8GB CF|AD516|X-Surf 100|RapidRoad|Cocolino|SCSI CD-RW
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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2015, 05:16:11 AM »
Here it is another way:

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[FONT="]/* FAT95: file system for 256MB SD card              */

FileSystem    = l:fat95
Device        = gvpscsi.device
Unit          = 31        /* change drive number here */
Flags         = 0
LowCyl        = 0
HighCyl       = 1
Surfaces      = 1        /* bootblock values have priority over these */
BlocksPerTrack    = 1
Buffers       = 50
BufMemType    = 1
MaxTransfer   = 0x0001FE00
Mask          = 0x7FFFFFFC
BootPri       = 0
Stacksize     = 4096
Priority      = 5
GlobVec       = -1
Mount         = 1
Activate      = 1
DosType       = 0x46415401    /* enable ETD commands */
[/FONT]
 
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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2015, 01:52:00 PM »
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I tried to format it in win7 in a program called SDFormater. When I now put this in my A1200 the icon "CF0:NDOS" comes up.

So then there is something with the fat read on my A1200.

Clues. ?

PS. Card is a verbatim (2GB)

Did you actually try and format it on the amiga, when it came up as ndos?
If it still doesnt format it, then it will more than likely not be compatible.


@Mike
Your posting that yours works fine, but your using USB. Not PCMCIA.
They are completely different and will work differently with different cards.
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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2015, 02:22:50 PM »
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Did you actually try and format it on the amiga, when it came up as ndos?
If it still doesnt format it, then it will more than likely not be compatible.


@Mike
Your posting that yours works fine, but your using USB. Not PCMCIA.
They are completely different and will work differently with different cards.


Yes I have tried to format the NDOS icon that comes up when inserting the pcmcia with the cf card inserted.

But I get a error message

So what can be used on amigaOS formated in FFS. ?

Or what cards is compatible. ?
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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2015, 04:28:43 PM »
Quote from: F0LLETT;788617
@Mike
Your posting that yours works fine, but your using USB. Not PCMCIA.
They are completely different and will work differently with different cards.

Incorrect, sir.  I am using a SCSI card reader.  Not quite so different from the way he's trying to do it.  :D

Edit:  As OP states in post #8, he doesn't know what a mountlist for fat95 is, or how to write one.  Now that I remember how I did it, I provided an example of mine.  OP just needs to modify to suit his particular device, I think.  This is assuming he wants to format the CF as fat95 (so he can use it to exchange files with a PC), as opposed to some native, Amiga-only format.  ;)

Edit 2:  Here is a long thread with some good information on creating mountlists for fat95:  http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=67430
« Last Edit: April 30, 2015, 04:46:13 PM by Oldsmobile_Mike »
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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #23 on: May 01, 2015, 01:00:12 AM »
Like has been said previously though, the CF0 mountlist is included in the 'cfd' Compact Flash Device on aminet, so all the user has to do is to plonk fat95 (device) in L: and compactflash.device in DEVS: and then double click on the provided CF0 icon.

CFD:
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/cfd

FAT95:
http://aminet.net/package/disk/misc/fat95

I wonder if this is the pcmcia reset issue?

OP, have you tried running / installing these first?

http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/CardPatch
http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/CardReset
 

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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #24 on: May 01, 2015, 09:13:05 AM »
@alphadec - Do you have any expansion cards on your A1200? Ram expansions or CPU expansions etc that might conflict with the PCMCIA? If yes, remove and see if it works.
 

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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #25 on: May 01, 2015, 12:43:27 PM »
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@alphadec - Do you have any expansion cards on your A1200? Ram expansions or CPU expansions etc that might conflict with the PCMCIA? If yes, remove and see if it works.


No there is nothing installed other then a IDE HD other then that nothing.
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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #26 on: May 01, 2015, 01:32:48 PM »
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No there is nothing installed other then a IDE HD other then that nothing.

Paul is right everything is included. If its not working, then it simply isnt compatible.
I agree on cardpatch, make sure you have them installed. If you already do, try removing them from startup (some motherbaords do not need the patches or fix).
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Re: cf-card for Amiga600/1200
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2015, 10:04:07 PM »
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Paul is right everything is included.

Man, you A1200 users have it easy.  I felt like an idiot, bashing my head against a wall trying to figure out FAT95 on an A2000!  :lol:
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