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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: amigacooke on August 13, 2003, 02:30:41 PM
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Well it used to be a beautiful relationship. Everyone together in an OS love-in. It used to be so good when those naughty PC and Macs were the only targets. :-)
Now it's all gone wrong. Recrimination, arguments, fights, abuse with no-one admitting they might be wrong. Trapped in an endless, repeating cycle of conflict, there can only be one solution. An amiga divorce. :-(
Having drifted apart, without common interests any more, it's time to take the kids Peggy, Miggywon and little Arossy and go our own seperate ways. You know it's for the best .... in the long run.
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What are you on about? Are you serious?
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Well if you have any amigas for sale let us know you might have something i want.
:-)
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Peggy being the bight kid, of dubious paternal origin...
Miggywon being the attractive, slightly slow kid...
Arossy being the rebel...
? :lol:
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Divorce? How? We loan a lawyer and he writes
an agreement on which every Amigan has to sign?
Freak.
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Ok if you want the simple and boring way.
It seems Inevitable that those who choose different solutions will be unable to stay in one community. The community formally known as 'the amiga community' will naturally split and head off in different directions.
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It seems Inevitable that those who choose different solutions will be unable to stay in one community. The community formally known as 'the amiga community' will naturally split and head off in different directions.
I dont think it will most software will be writen to run on all the platforms so the most money can be made . :-)
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amigacooke wrote:
Ok if you want the simple and boring way.
It seems Inevitable that those who choose different solutions will be unable to stay in one community. The community formally known as 'the amiga community' will naturally split and head off in different directions.
Why? What do you base that on?
I imagine that in the future amiga users will always mix with pegasos users, and aros users will mix with both of those also, and will share ideas, and help eachother, and much of the software is the same, and i can't see a reason why they need to split, and some will have more than one option, and why do you say what you say?
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Isn't Amigaworld evidence of fragmentation with its clear favoured status to the AmigaOne?
If you're looking for help for each solution, wouldn't you go to a source that can provide specialised help for that solution? Wasn't that was the reason Amiga.org and boards like it started? To provide the sort of specialised help that couldn't be found from general PC sources that concerntrated more and more on IBM compatibles and Macs.
In the IT industry haven't communities almost always formed around solutions, rather than solutions around communities.
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Yeah but there's people like me who wouldn;t mind using either. Personally gonna wait for OS4 to ship and see how it does before I even consider buying one of those machines (nonetheless saving up for one)
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amigacooke wrote:
Ok if you want the simple and boring way.
It seems Inevitable that those who choose different solutions will be unable to stay in one community. The community formally known as 'the amiga community' will naturally split and head off in different directions.
Just ignore the Trolls who tell you that. They are the ones who need to grow up. there's no reason for anyone to leave.
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Isn't Amigaworld evidence of fragmentation with its clear favoured status to the AmigaOne?
Isn't mophzone.org evidence of fragmentation with its clear favoured status to the Pegasos? :-P
IMO we need both general Amigoid sites (ie A.org, ANN) and more specialised ones (AW, MZ)
I'm sure that the platforms will seperate more as time goes on, but just remember that they are all very compatible with each other and will continue to be so untill MOS's QBox is more popular than the ABox and A2G is more popular on OS4.x than A1G (don't ask me about AROS's long term plans once they have a complete 3.x API). Until then, people can program using OpenAmiga so everyone benefits.
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I am personally shocked, horrified, dismayed at all the acrimony that goes on in this community. You know it would be so much easier if everyone would agree with me and stop having their own opinions.
But, despite the fact, that that would be both easier and a lot more logical, I still have a soft spot in my heart for differing opinions.
You can tell, by the way that I don't try to call for the removal of people with differing opinions. I know that's a subtle thing....common sense says, the way you show support for differing opinions is by never having an opinion....common sense isn't very sensical.
Now....where was I...oh yes, OS 4.
You know what, if they were to release OS 4 and
they were to release a new Amiga ONE at a decent
price point, I think it would be great.
Of course, until then, they haven't.
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T_Bone wrote:
Just ignore the Trolls who tell you that. They are the ones who need to grow up. there's no reason for anyone to leave.
I think you're missing the point. I'm not saying anyone has to leave, just that as new communities form around delivered solutions they probably will.
It's merely an observation, not a threat.
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Myself I like the idea of a harem ! :-P
Amiga, Mos, OS X, Mandrake, Debian, Mac OS :-D
So even if you divorce you are not lonely ! :griping:
Dumped Solaris, NeXT, AROS (Not ready for prime time) :crazy:
Killed the b*t*h Windows (3.1, 95, 98, 2k, XP) 5 times - definitely no electromony payments here ! :destroy:
And someday a larger harem - Amiga OS 4 and maybe AROS (ready for prime time) :-)
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MarkTime wrote:
You know what, if they were to release OS 4 and
they were to release a new Amiga ONE at a decent
price point, I think it would be great.
Of course, until then, they haven't.
I reckon $299 for the A1-Lite with OS4 thrown in free would be a decent starting point, and low enough to attract some of the people outside the current community who would like to see what its about but not at a cost of over a grand for the system.
For the current price of the A1XE I can buy a Pegasos, a PC, and still have change left over for a few pints down the pub, £1 for the fruit machine, and pie and chips to eat on the way home.
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I for one divorced my ColicoVisoin sys, my C64, my A2000 and I have a steady realationship with my PC but will never divorce my A4000 no matter what.
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I don't think of this as a troll. But a bit of clever reverse psychology.
poster "Whoa is us, our community is doomed"
others (prone to arguement, like me) "What, you are an idiot, look at all the good things going on..." Which of course, is the point.
If the parents could get along, the users could get along. Sibling rivalry can be a good thing.
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kokigami wrote:
poster "Whoa is us, our community is doomed"
others (prone to arguement, like me) "What, you are an idiot, look at all the good things going on..." Which of course, is the point.
That's too clever for me.
I'm not saying 'Woe is us', I'm saying new solutions will spawn new communities with their own objectives and support networks, just as the classic Amiga did in its day