Did we all just witness Windows start to die?

[djos]

Android claims to be more open than iOS but the reality is very different, Google have actually handed the carriers more power than they have ever had and the reality is iOS gives consumers a better deal with no carrier bloatware, no carrier controlled updates, no carrier branding uglifying your phone and you know what you get every time you buy an iDevice, a consistent apple user and support experiance.

[bloodline]

In theory I should prefer Android over iOS, but since I have a developer licence for my iOS devices... I have the advantages of Android with the convenience and security of iOS. And as it happens I prefer Objective-C to Java (both great languages, just Obj-C fits better with my thinking)... So iOS is now my main OS, which is a crazy thought actually!?

-Edit- actually my own personal projects almost always use a Linux kernel (still can't get real time to work though), with the GNUStep framework

[nicholas]

Android claims to be more open than iOS but the reality is very different, Google have actually handed the carriers more power than they have ever had and the reality is iOS gives consumers a better deal with no carrier bloatware, no carrier controlled updates, no carrier branding uglifying your phone and you know what you get every time you buy an iDevice, a consistent apple user and support experiance.

Ahem.... http://www.google.com/nexus/all/

[djos]

Ahem.... http://www.google.com/nexus/all/

As they say, one swallow does not a spring make!

The nexus range so far don't even support global 4G!

I don't know the state of 4G in the UK but here in Australia and also the US we have multile 4g networks to choose from and the thought of buying a new handset and being stuck on 3G for 1-2 years is ludicrous!

[nicholas]

As they say, one swallow does not a spring make!

The nexus range so far don't even support global 4G!

I don't know the state of 4G in the UK but here in Australia and also the US we have multile 4g networks to choose from and the thought of buying a new handset and being stuck on 3G for 1-2 years is ludicrous!

We have ONE 4G network and it's crap too. lol

[djos]

We have ONE 4G network and it's crap too. lol

We've got one great one (Telstra), one decent one (Optus) and then we have the carrier known here by most as VodaFail

[Duce]

Nexus 4 is last gen Google phone regardless.  Both the Samsung Galaxy S4 and HTC One Google edition are fully 4G, though the pricing on them is significantly higher than the LG Nexus 4.

Curious to see final details on the new Google/Motorola Moto X.  Been a bit disappointed lately with lack of card slots in the Google phones and sure hope the Moto X has one, as my S3 is getting a bit long in the tooth.

[djos]

From what I've read the google Version of the s4 does not support global 4g frequencies!

[som99]

4G is getting along quite ok here in Sweden, I got a Samsung Galaxy s3 4G and speed tested where I live (not in a big city but 40-ish km from Gothenburg) I get between 54-62 Mb/s down and using unlimited data plan I can't complain when downloading torrents from it

[bbond007]

I have to say I really didn't like Jobs as a person (and reading his biography didn't help), but the one this I did like about him was the fact that it felt like he actually used the products Apple sold.

That may be true, but I doubt he ever gone so far as to upgraded the OS on his personal iPhone...

Otherwise that process would be better...

[djos]

That may be true, but I doubt he ever gone so far as to upgraded the OS on his personal iPhone...

Otherwise that process would be better...

What's so hard about it? It does it for you with two finger taps!

[bbond007]

What's so hard about it? It does it for you with two finger taps!

never actually had it work right. Well, maybe once...Takes forever, more than once its crashed leaving the phone in an non-bootable state. Apple in all their user-friendliness cant check if you have enough space prior to starting, and I had a SSD.  If I NEVER see iTunes again it will be too soon.

[commodorejohn]

What's so hard about it? It does it for you with two finger taps!

That's what she said!

[djos]

That's what she said!

*groans*

[Duce]

iTunes is 99.99% of the reason I am entirely steering clear of any Apple mobile devices in the future.  Sadly, until this ipad gives up the ghost, I'm still locked into their ecosystem.

iTunes is the biggest gongshow, trainwreck piece of software on the Windows platform by far.  Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but I think that's entirely intentional on Windows.  It runs fine on a Mac, but not on Windows.  I think they figure I'll get irked enough so I'll replace all my PC's with Mac's, lol.

I've had ZERO, and I mean ZERO issues with itunes on my macs.  Friendly on memory, never crashes or bogs the machines down.  Windows though, oooh boy, completely different story.  Not uncommon on my systems to find it using 2+ GB of system RAM doing nothing at all, just the program loaded not even playing music or with a device attached.

[SysAdmin]

@Duce

When in doubt blame Windows.