Interview with A-Eon's Trevor Dickinson

[wawrzon]

I think it's more of a "maybe" just not what was originally thought.  He said they were putting those resources towards something else with a smiley afterwards so I'm hoping that means same idea, different, more cost effective hardware.

remember that the community, or rather the more sane part of it always pretty quickly guessed what the misteries are about. the cpu for x1k. the mysterious netbook was immediately identified as limebook. so far i know there is no mobile ppc hardware suitable for mbile rebranding. so they are likely looking at alterntives, while not seeng any.

[klx300r]

My last post about AEon strategy for a while in news thread ...

2500 $ machine is not a dream of Morphos user and no Aros user will
buy it probably ( not developer , user ) , simple enough ?

Oh I see, perhaps you can create a new computer that will be made specifically for all Amiga camps and then one could triple boot into his/her preferred OS on the same computer AND you can do this for $500 (+ taxes of course), OR you can make the community agree on ONE SINGLE AmigaOS for ultimate UNITY again. simple enough?

[nicholas]

Oh I see, perhaps you can create a new computer that will be made specifically for all Amiga camps and then one could triple boot into his/her preferred OS on the same computer AND you can do this for $500 (+ taxes of course)

Bill Buck did.  For less money too.

[klx300r]

Bill Buck did.  For less money too.

'DID' is the operative word.  Let's await Blizz1220's new design on the hardware front for NOW

[Iggy]

Bill Buck did.  For less money too.

I can confirm that.
While they have no stock amigakit.us still list PegasosII mainboards with a 1 GHz G4 processor at $461.70.

So more powerful than a SAM and cheaper.

Oh, and the OS was supplied.

[Blizz1220]

'DID' is the operative word.  Let's await Blizz1220's new design on the hardware front for NOW

When I said Aros/Morphos/AOS4 I meant Aros OR Morphos OR AmigaOS 4 ...
Just as long it is cheap and it is called Amiga ...

Enter new users ...

Make it only AmigaOS 4 and make it expensive and there will be no new users ... But I wasn't clear , I agree ... Although new users may come for one camp only most of them will be at least curious about other camps ...

But it's gotta be cheap and called Amiga(something.something) ...

[Iggy]

When I said Aros/Morphos/AOS4 I meant Aros OR Morphos OR AmigaOS 4 ...
Just as long it is cheap and it is called Amiga ...

Enter new users ...

Make it only AmigaOS 4 and make it expensive and there will be no new users ... But I wasn't clear , I agree ... Although new users may come for one camp only most of them will be at least curious about other camps ...

But it's gotta be cheap and called Amiga(something.something) ...

You've got a big stumbling block there, Hyperion.

[Blizz1220]

You've got a big stumbling block there, Hyperion.

No , I don't think so ... Benjamin got you all a little bit to scared in 2005 and now everyone thinks that is the case ...

But stumbling block that exists is AmigaOS 4 users and I see no reason why
they would be the enemy ...

Trevor could make custom case keyboard and mouse , put G5 motherboard in there and Ben would be only to happy to let him port AmigaOS 4 to this new
A-Eon machine ... Sure , he would scream a lot but than he would have no choice , we could all buy it than and live happily ever after ...

[nicholas]

'DID' is the operative word.

He's still quite willing to do it all again and release the mobo design under an open licence.

He's just not willing to fund it himself so there's a bounty on power2people website.

[Iggy]

He's still quite willing to do it all again and release the mobo design under an open licence.

He's just not willing to fund it himself so there's a bounty on power2people website.

Can't be done, the design is not Rohs compatible.

I still think we'd be better off with a cheaper e5500 cored product.
Four cores @ up to 1.4 GHz.
That's four times the power of the fastest PegII CPU card.

[Fats]

Oh no, he's the devil incarnate.  How dare he fund the best coders our community had to write a modern OS for us and on top of that fund the development of quality hardware at decent prices.

Some people seem to have selective memory. Don't find the reference anymore but Buck hasn't all MorphOS developers, one of them even released Ambient under GPL as reaction.

[Iggy]

No , I don't think so ... Benjamin got you all a little bit to scared in 2005 and now everyone thinks that is the case.

Wrong. not scared, pissed and insulted by an inferior hack.

But stumbling block that exists is AmigaOS 4 users and I see no reason why
they would be the enemy ...

They never have been, just Bill, Ben, and his two German game programmers.

Trevor could make custom case keyboard and mouse , put G5 motherboard in there and Ben would be only to happy to let him port AmigaOS 4 to this new
A-Eon machine ... Sure , he would scream a lot but than he would have no choice , we could all buy it than and live happily ever after ...

G5s are dated, currently Trevor is very much right.
More powerful Qorlq based products are coming out.

If anyone is serious, we can start now by raising money.
Talk is cheap.
Motherboards with SMD components and several layers are not.

[Blizz1220]

G5s are dated, currently Trevor is very much right.
More powerful Qorlq based products are coming out.

If anyone is serious, we can start now by raising money.
Talk is cheap.
Motherboards with SMD components and several layers are not.

All PPC is dead unless you're building a router or something like that ...
I don't hate Trevor's idea because it's Trevor's , I would hate your idea
to do the same thing even more because of the prior knowledge ...

Here's an idea :

Build a PCI-E PPC expansion card for Mac or PC , it would cost less
and you could run all NG oses on that machine ...

It would still cost more than used G4 Powerbook ...

[nicholas]

Some people seem to have selective memory. Don't find the reference anymore but Buck hasn't all MorphOS developers, one of them even released Ambient under GPL as reaction.

I know English isn't your first language so I'll forgive you for missing nuances.

Buck did (Past tense) fund MorphOS development.
Buck then stopped paying quite a few of them later on.

None of this detracts from the fact that he did fund the best coders we had/have to write an OS for us and also funded cheap quality hardware for us to run it on.

The village idiots around these parts chased him and the MOS-Team away, this is a fact.

[Iggy]

All PPC is dead unless you're building a router or something like that ...
I don't hate Trevor's idea because it's Trevor's , I would hate your idea
to do the same thing even more because of the prior knowledge ...

Here's an idea :

Build a PCI-E PPC expansion card for Mac or PC , it would cost less
and you could run all NG oses on that machine ...

It would still cost more than used G4 Powerbook ...

Consider the highlight.
I was talking to Paul Gentle at about the same time Trevor (unknown to me) initially was (in my case about MPC8641/8640 SoCs, which Paul also had experience with).
And no, it wasn't Trevor's idea, it was McBill's and Ack Systems (they set the spec that the Nemo meets).
Paul, on the other hand, wanted to use Qorlq processors (and that is what the X2000 will be based on).
Don't assume you know what your talking about.
Our design was about 75% done (and oddly enough without knowing it used the same Southbridge as the X1000).
At the same time Bill Buck and at least two other parties were considering MPC8610 based boards .

What I respect is Trevor went to the right company, threw his own money in, and got it done.
And I'm really impressed with Paul Gentle.
I backed out when the estimated costs would have meant a second mortgage on my home.

And I don't care what you do or do not 'hate'.
Actions speak louder than words.

Don't want to join us?
You are free to use AROS.

PPCs have more than enough power for our demands and there is always ARM if the need to migrate occurs.

[Blizz1220]

Consider the highlight.
I was talking to Paul Gentle at about the same time Trevor (unknown to me) initially was (in my case about MPC8641/8640 SoCs, which Paul also had experience with).
And no, it wasn't Trevor's idea, it was McBill's and Ack Systems (they set the spec that the Nemo meets).
Paul, on the other hand, wanted to use Qorlq processors (and that is what the X2000 will be based on).
Don't assume you know what your talking about.
Our design was about 75% done (and oddly enough without knowing it used the same Southbridge as the X1000).
At the same time Bill Buck and at least two other parties were considering MPC8610 based boards .

What I respect is Trevor went to the right company, threw his own money in, and got it done.
And I'm really impressed with Paul Gentle.
I backed out when the estimated costs would have meant a second mortgage on my home.

And I don't care what you do or do not 'hate'.
Actions speak louder than words.

Don't want to join us?
You are free to use AROS.

PPCs have more than enough power for our demands and there is always ARM if the need to migrate occurs.

Well I'm speechless ...
Old Macs are good enough for me , Morphos is fast enough OS on G4 ...
And you're right , you clearly have much better idea about this than
me ... You will probably get less users than Trevor though , he has the
advantage of am Amiga name ... I'm really done now ...