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TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« on: September 30, 2007, 10:21:49 PM »
It's Bug Hunting time.

Thanks Neil C!

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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2007, 12:00:36 AM »
Things are coming together nicely for AROS.  

Am I right to think that AROS is API compatable with Amiga OS 3.1?
Would the integration of a 68K JIT emulator allow system friendly apps such as Cinema4D and Wordworth, without the overheads of custom chip emulation.

If I could eventually replace Amithlon with AROS, I'd certainly pay towards a 68K JIT bounty.

 

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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2007, 12:26:18 AM »
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Thanks Neil C!


Woot!

Yeehaw and welcome to AROS!

This was a big one - fantastic job!
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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2007, 12:54:00 AM »
I'd rather see an integrated UAE, just to double click to play some good nice games, but an integrated UAE means AFAIK more than just easy gaming, the UAE (ie the emulator) should catch certain emulated OS calls and redirect to host OS functions, which would allow an app running under the emulated Amiga(OS) to communicate with AROS as if it was executing directly under AROS.
Sure this would make it considerably slower than a virtual 68K with a JIT compiler, but on the other hand the UAE solution gives you everyhing runnable under the Amiga and not just a few apps, float myCents = 0.000001;.
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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2007, 01:31:42 AM »
I'd rather see both options side by side in AROS.  UAE for classic games and apps that hit the hardware.  68K JIT for pure speed in 3D rendering and image or audio processing apps.
 

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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2007, 01:38:08 AM »
Agree! :-)
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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2007, 02:35:37 AM »
i want integrated UAE and firefox then aros is worthy  a install :)
 

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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2007, 03:54:59 AM »
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i want integrated UAE and firefox then aros is worthy a install :)


Would you settle for Webkit?

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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2007, 04:08:56 AM »
I think most would settle for anything that is compliant with todays standards.
 

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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2007, 05:40:01 AM »
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I'd rather see an integrated UAE, just to double click to play some good nice games, but an integrated UAE means AFAIK more than just easy gaming, the UAE (ie the emulator) should catch certain emulated OS calls and redirect to host OS functions, which would allow an app running under the emulated Amiga(OS) to communicate with AROS as if it was executing directly under AROS.


Essentially, VirtualAmiga.  I believe this is how VirtualPC works when hosting a Windows OS, though it doesn't have to emulate the x86 processor like AROS would have to emulate the 68k.
 

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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2007, 06:09:35 AM »
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AROS would have to emulate the 68k.

If 68k emulation is ever added to AROS, what would be the target CPU, 68000? 68030+FPU? 68040? 68060? all of them? I am curious about which core would benefit amiga legacy applications the most.
 

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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2007, 07:45:43 AM »
I guess there are a couple of things people(e.g. me :-D )would  like to have before switching over completely to AROS.

A nice CSS-capable browser being able to get AROS connected easily to the internet, Music and Video playing software, word processor (and some kind of Excel app for lots of people), MAME, Stella, and a couple of other emulators, a modern text editor for coding, etc...
Personally i don't care as much about classic Amiga Emulation as most other people here, but i think it will also be a nice plus if it would work.

And as much as i could check out over the last week with AROS, i feel we are not that far away from this future..

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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2007, 02:00:38 PM »
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Einstein wrote:
I'd rather see an integrated UAE, just to double click to play some good nice games, but an integrated UAE means AFAIK more than just easy gaming, the UAE (ie the emulator) should catch certain emulated OS calls and redirect to host OS functions, which would allow an app running under the emulated Amiga(OS) to communicate with AROS as if it was executing directly under AROS.


Essentially, VirtualAmiga.  I believe this is how VirtualPC works when hosting a Windows OS, though it doesn't have to emulate the x86 processor like AROS would have to emulate the 68k.


Well once upon a time I tried to try ( :-D ) VirtualPC, didn't work, think it because of this Windows of mine that cracked up when I tried to install some alien fonts, done everything to clean up, no result, one day I should just reinstall the crap.

Anyway I was thinking, when Integrated UAE comes along, wouldn't it be good to have some good memory protection in AROS to make it alot more stable ?, I mean the integrated UAE (more precisely, the kickstart replacement) would be the whole 3.1 (maybe among other versions) environment, why not rewrite parts of AROS to make it behave better (more stable) ? and as usual: float myCents = 0.000001;.
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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2007, 11:57:45 AM »
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Anyway I was thinking, when Integrated UAE comes along, wouldn't it be good to have some good memory protection in AROS to make it alot more stable ?,


Wait for AROS64 to be released.  :-D Initial kernel is kinda quick and dirty in order to get the rest of the core OS ported/tested.  Once that is completed, Dr. Schulz is going back for major remake of the AROS64 kernel to bring it up to modern standards.

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Re: TeamAROS Bounty: Installer Mk2 Phase I Beta Released
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2007, 12:11:18 PM »
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i want integrated UAE and firefox then aros is worthy a install :)


Would you settle for Webkit?

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as long as its as good as firefox i will settle for it, but i doubt it is....

and is there a native irc and messenger for aros?