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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #119 from previous page: August 10, 2011, 09:41:44 PM »
@ Kesa

I wouldn't bother with what anyone has to say about you, it's not your fault that you're a wee bit dolly dimple... :)

Anywhoo... I reckon that's what make your posts such a good read, is trying to figure out if you're a crafty sly wee toadie who just likes taking the pee in an amusing and inoffensive way or if you are in fact as daft as a brush... :)

Keep on posting Kesa, the world needs more nutters like you... ;)

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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #120 on: August 10, 2011, 09:43:25 PM »
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Kesa, you might want to sleep off the 12 pints mentioned in your signature before posting comments about technical details of any computer board designs.  :lol:

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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #121 on: August 10, 2011, 10:53:55 PM »
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When i quoted the Walker i was just trying to show that certain piece of  hardware can still retain high value. Not sure after a decade or so but  if someone bought an X1000 today you could probably sell for a profit  in a year or two when they stop production.


So, just hope A-eons folds quickly :-P
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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #122 on: August 10, 2011, 11:05:00 PM »
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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #123 on: August 11, 2011, 12:41:50 AM »
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I reread my post and now i see what you were talking about. I made a grammar error. Again i know that xmos didn't make any design contribution to the X1000 and all the work was left to Trevor. I was just trying to explain that the X1000 is more than just a kit bash using Xcore. I didn't explain it well.


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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #124 on: August 11, 2011, 01:17:32 AM »
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Duh, i done it again! This just isn't my day :(

Keas,
The design is not Treavor's. It was created by Varisys, which has some experience with XMOS components (and designs PPC motherboards).
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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #125 on: August 11, 2011, 01:23:26 AM »
Kesa,

Just take a break my friend.

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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #126 on: August 11, 2011, 09:37:11 PM »
@Kesa,

I just consider it a misunderstanding, so, sorry. Didn't mean to argue with you, carry on!
 

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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #127 on: August 11, 2011, 09:45:18 PM »
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while I can't speak for @kesa, i know of at least three engineers in my office who wish to purchase one for their collections, and none of them care about the amiga. the reasons that I have, for example, are:

1. the inclusion of a PA6T in a consumer product
2. a consumer-oriented desktop which is not (specifically) meant to run windows, OSX, or Linux
3. the inclusion of an XMOS processor which has it's own custom I/O and is accessible via the GPIO lines from the PA6T

two of my friends are buying it for reason #1 alone. bear in mind they are interested as collectors, not users, so it certainly doesn't suggest interest from general computer users per se -- but there are a few folks out there interested in it due to it's rarity, the back-story behind its design, and the silicon they've included on the board.

the terons weren't nearly as interesting given that they were evaluation boards using commodity parts that had been breathed on for the amiga community. the pegasos was more or less the same story, although slightly more interesting because it was designed from the get-go as the basis for a desktop system. the X1000 is significantly more desirable for a collector than either of those boards by a long way.

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Interesting. Please post back if they actually DO buy. I have quite a few "collectible" systems here myself. In my time I've worked at places that built their own hardware running proprietary OSes, essentially the same thing as an X1000 (custom mobo, SoC, custom software, etc). Some of those products would be considered extremely rare, but I can't think of any reason anyone would want to collect one of those systems unless they had worked with them (nostalgia).
 

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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #128 on: August 11, 2011, 10:18:21 PM »
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the terons weren't nearly as interesting given that they were evaluation boards using commodity parts that had been breathed on for the amiga community. the pegasos was more or less the same story, although slightly more interesting because it was designed from the get-go as the basis for a desktop system.

Umm comparing the Teron with the Pegasos is not even in the same ballpark. Those terons were crap eval boards that motorola themselves (the cpu supplier) couldnt even utilize. The pegasos is a custom designed multi layer board of substantially higher quality and is and end user product. Terons were NEVER intended to be sold to public, its quite lame that Hyperion and Eyetech did that,especially for those prices! But looks like a repeat job with X1000... the morph guys learned to use good commerical commodity hw (apple hw) OS4 should have went this route (project moana proves it why the *#(@&* would they abandon that project? licensing?)
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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #129 on: August 11, 2011, 11:54:58 PM »
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Those terons were crap eval boards that motorola themselves (the cpu supplier) couldnt even utilize. The pegasos is a custom designed multi layer board of substantially higher quality and is and end user product. Terons were NEVER intended to be sold to public, its quite lame that Hyperion and Eyetech did that,especially for those prices! But looks like a repeat job with X1000... the morph guys learned to use good commerical commodity hw (apple hw) OS4 should have went this route (project moana proves it why the *#(@&* would they abandon that project? licensing?)


Are you implying the X1000 is a 'crap board', or just expensive? ;>

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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #130 on: August 12, 2011, 02:15:00 AM »
It will be interesting to see how well it behaves in terms of hardware reliability over time, such knowledge will only come with time however. I wouldn't mind some opinion on the build quality from someone who has actually had a chance to physically inspect one of these boards, anyone present able to do that?
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Re: [A-EON updates] The "Golden" Child - Nemo revision 2.1
« Reply #131 on: August 12, 2011, 04:16:46 AM »
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It will be interesting to see how well it behaves in terms of hardware reliability over time, such knowledge will only come with time however. I wouldn't mind some opinion on the build quality from someone who has actually had a chance to physically inspect one of these boards, anyone present able to do that?

I don't know about Nemo, but i believe Varisys has the capacity to design and build decent hardware.
I was in contact with them before it was announced that they'd worked with A-eon. They have some sharp, talented people.
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